HELLO ALL, I HAVE A NEW IBIS 3 AIR CON ON THE ROOF AND WONDERING WHAT THE MINIMUM SIZE GENERATOR WOULD BE REQUIRED TO POWER THE AIR CON WITHOUT ISSUES. I SEEM TO RECALL SOMEONE MENTIONING THEY RUN THEIRS ON A HONDA 2KVA BUT CANT FIND THE POST. THANKS EDDY
KFT said
09:28 PM Sep 7, 2015
Firstly Eddy, to type your entire message in capitals is considered to be akin to shouting at someone. so please come back and edit your text to remove the capitals.
We have an Ibis aircon and our honda 2 will run it with the following proviso's
1. everything else is turned off incl batt charger, fridge(run on gas), microwave. 2. Eco throttle will need to be off to get it started, once it has run for an hour you should be able to turn Eco back on.
If I could fit one in my genny hatch I would get a 2.4 yamaha instead because of that extra grunt.
frank
-- Edited by KFT on Monday 7th of September 2015 09:48:57 PM
-- Edited by KFT on Monday 7th of September 2015 09:49:23 PM
Aus-Kiwi said
10:02 PM Sep 7, 2015
Pays to have at least 10% over max load.. Find what the amperage wattage is ...
meggsy said
10:19 PM Sep 7, 2015
Not sure what the Ibis 3 start current is... if the a/c is well designed and has a soft start compressor ( that is start current is limited by better design) the running current is most likely about 6 amps on cool cycle so the @kw should handle the running function you may have problems on the start ... bear in mind that the initial start current takes into consideration both the compressor and the fans. there again it depends upon how sensitive the overloads protection is.
cheers Ian
dogbox said
10:53 PM Sep 7, 2015
did I read in one of the adverts for Honda 2000 that it was guaranteed to run any caravan roof top air con
Dougwe said
05:21 AM Sep 8, 2015
How, Eddy,
Gee Eddy I reckon that KFC is a bit of a grump mate
Grump or not I agree with him, surprisingly but don't tell him please.
I have the Ibis and the Honda 20i runs it well, mind you I probably wouldn't want to have anything else on. I have the Echo switch off all the time and don't seem to have a problem with my charger being on. KFC might have a bigger charger though.
I do find when I first tested everything that the Honda would cut off soon after starting but put it in for a service and all good then so make sure Gene is serviced well.
KFT said
10:08 AM Sep 8, 2015
It is ok Eddy, Doug is just trying get me off topic again. He does that to me all the time.
I was just giving you a heads up on the etiquette of typing on a forum.
I really am not grumpy.
hehe
Footprints said
10:40 AM Sep 8, 2015
I run a Honda 3KVA generator and i have no restrictions for whatever i choose to run. i have a Denso air conditioner unit.
Bruce and Bev said
02:21 PM Sep 8, 2015
This subject has been well discussed numerous times before, but some of the Tech heads here say to get a power cable made up specially for running your Ibis. It shouldn't be longer than 5 m and use the maximum cable diameter. Auto sparkies are the people to get one made
meggsy said
03:22 PM Sep 8, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Auto sparkies are the people to get one made
Auto Sparkies are not permitted to do electrical work on Caravan 240 volt "stuff" nor is the home handyman. even making up a extension lead technically needs to be done by a licenced electrical contractor. From Caravan world article
All RV 240V work in Australia is governed by Australian/New Zealand Standard for Wiring Rules 3000 and 3001, which are applicable to "transportable vehicles and structures".
The electrics must only be worked on and certified by a licensed electrician. However, that does not apply to 12V circuits, which have no particular standards or licence requirements.
ooops......I was just going by what others had said previously on this subject about using auto sparkies to make up power leads. I stand corrected :)
ROAD RUNNER said
09:30 PM Sep 8, 2015
Hello all, thanks for the reply's and sound advice. my apology for the upper case as i don't normally use u c however prior to the post, I was sending an email to a Chinese Ebay seller and genuinely thought it may be easier for them to read so forgot to revert back to lower case. But having said that, I wasn't aware that UC is considered yelling so there you go. Must send an UC email to the cook to verify the policy.
Back on subject, just checked the specs on the Ibis 3 and cooling capacity is 3.1kw, rated current cooling 5.8A but not sure what all that means so hoping the Honda 2000 will suffice. The brochure says "whisper" quiet, hmmmm okay, maybe my hearing is still quite good?
Cruising Cruze said
11:47 PM Sep 8, 2015
Hi Eddy
Go to your local Honda small engine place and ask If you can try it out
I bet you they will lend you one, with they idea you want to buy one if it is suited for the job
Or why don't you ask when camping if you can use and try out the Honda i20 from some one I would say come to Hervey Bay Qld but thinking of it that is a bit far for you
Cheers John
Dougwe said
07:19 AM Sep 9, 2015
You told me Mrs CC pedals a little harder when you turn the aircon on John
ROAD RUNNER said
09:27 PM Sep 9, 2015
Great idea John, thanks for the suggestion. Eddy
mjt57 said
10:21 PM Sep 9, 2015
May I make a suggestion?
Jaycar, DSE and the like sell power measurement units that you can plug into a GPO and then appliances into it to measure power consumption.
I got one and tested it at work (I work in the power industry and have access to all sorts of test gear.). Voltage, frequency, load, Amos, etc were all fairly close.
So, with this in mind you could plug your van into an outlet at your house with one of these and fire everything up. Then work out from the total load what size generator that you need.
I'm with Lions and we cater for a local farmers market. We have two different sized Honda "inverter" generators. Quiet and reliable. I'd personally go with one of those.
Cruising Cruze said
11:31 PM Sep 9, 2015
@Doug
you are in the naughty corner again take a chair and don't move
and do as you've been told
Now I've had my say Hey that feels good
Cheers John
MichaelH said
06:56 AM Sep 10, 2015
Using upper case for someone who may not understand english is like shouting at some one who doesn't understand English - it makes no difference but it is funny to watch
banjo said
12:01 PM Sep 10, 2015
An Ibis is "Whisper quiet" ! tell em their dreaming son ! or either stone deaf, even the so called mk3 model is still noisy IMO, and yes a friend has just taken delivery of one on his new van.
Just advertorial hype to get over their bad rep.
ROAD RUNNER said
09:40 PM Sep 10, 2015
it appears upper case may be distressing to some and causing some angst so i'm in favour of perhaps having the government step in and making the practice illegal. (i hope a full stop doesn't annoy anyone)
Cruising Cruze said
03:40 PM Sep 11, 2015
Hi Eddy
How did you get on with the generator ???
love to hear the outcome of it
Cheers John
ROAD RUNNER said
09:07 PM Sep 11, 2015
Hi John, one of the other members suggested using a power meter to assess the consumption. I have one somewhere in the garage so will hook up the Ibis to 240v and measure it. I'm also thinking of waiting for the 4x4 show in Adelaide which I think is in October and perhaps pick up a Honda or Yamaha 2kva on special if possible. By some of the feedback it appears a 2kva will run it provided no other appliance is used etc. My thought is the generator would only be used in exceptional circumstance as most of my travel will probably be via caravan parks as I'm not that well set up for free camping for too long however caravan park pricing will determine the outcome. Regards Eddy
Thanks John, just checked the site and the price looks very competitive. I don't think I mentioned before but I'm halfway through converting a LWB High Roof Sprinter 316 as a camper and have bought so much to put in it eg; utensils, stoves, camping gear, fishing gear etc that I'm starting to get concerned on where all this will fit. The plan is to store a lot under the rear single beds so will probably put a generator on hold until the overhead cupboards and beds are fitted. The Sprinter was a bit of a mad moment purchase as I also have a caravan, Landcruiser and tinnie that sits on top but I'm really enjoying the Sprinter project as its a real mind stretcher with lots of hurdles to overcome and many trips to Bunnings. Regards Eddy
Cruising Cruze said
06:36 PM Sep 13, 2015
Hi Eddy
You've got the dream vehicle there Heaps of space to store stuff away in I hope it will tow the van with no problems mate
HELLO ALL, I HAVE A NEW IBIS 3 AIR CON ON THE ROOF AND WONDERING WHAT THE MINIMUM SIZE GENERATOR WOULD BE REQUIRED TO POWER THE AIR CON WITHOUT ISSUES. I SEEM TO RECALL SOMEONE MENTIONING THEY RUN THEIRS ON A HONDA 2KVA BUT CANT FIND THE POST. THANKS EDDY
Firstly Eddy, to type your entire message in capitals is considered to be akin to shouting at someone. so please come back and edit your text to remove the capitals.
We have an Ibis aircon and our honda 2 will run it with the following proviso's
1. everything else is turned off incl batt charger, fridge(run on gas), microwave.
2. Eco throttle will need to be off to get it started, once it has run for an hour you should be able to turn Eco back on.
If I could fit one in my genny hatch I would get a 2.4 yamaha instead because of that extra grunt.
frank
-- Edited by KFT on Monday 7th of September 2015 09:48:57 PM
-- Edited by KFT on Monday 7th of September 2015 09:49:23 PM
cheers Ian
How, Eddy,
Gee Eddy I reckon that KFC is a bit of a grump mate
Grump or not I agree with him, surprisingly but don't tell him please.
I have the Ibis and the Honda 20i runs it well, mind you I probably wouldn't want to have anything else on. I have the Echo switch off all the time and don't seem to have a problem with my charger being on. KFC might have a bigger charger though.
I do find when I first tested everything that the Honda would cut off soon after starting but put it in for a service and all good then so make sure Gene is serviced well.
I was just giving you a heads up on the etiquette of typing on a forum.
I really am not grumpy.
hehe
I run a Honda 3KVA generator and i have no restrictions for whatever i choose to run. i have a Denso air conditioner unit.
Auto Sparkies are not permitted to do electrical work on Caravan 240 volt "stuff" nor is the home handyman. even making up a extension lead technically needs to be done by a licenced electrical contractor. From Caravan world article
All RV 240V work in Australia is governed by Australian/New Zealand Standard for Wiring Rules 3000 and 3001, which are applicable to "transportable vehicles and structures".
The electrics must only be worked on and certified by a licensed electrician. However, that does not apply to 12V circuits, which have no particular standards or licence requirements.
see also http://roadahead.com.au/travel/caravanning/tips-for-240v-power-supply-and-safety/
Back on subject, just checked the specs on the Ibis 3 and cooling capacity is 3.1kw, rated current cooling 5.8A but not sure what all that means so hoping the Honda 2000 will suffice. The brochure says "whisper" quiet, hmmmm okay, maybe my hearing is still quite good?
Hi Eddy
Go to your local Honda small engine place and ask If you can try it out
I bet you they will lend you one, with they idea you want to buy one if it is suited for the job
Or why don't you ask when camping if you can use and try out the Honda i20 from some one
I would say come to Hervey Bay Qld but thinking of it that is a bit far for you
Cheers John
You told me Mrs CC pedals a little harder when you turn the aircon on John
Great idea John, thanks for the suggestion. Eddy
@Doug
you are in the naughty corner again take a chair and don't move
and do as you've been told
Now I've had my say Hey that feels good
Cheers John
Using upper case for someone who may not understand english is like shouting at some one who doesn't understand English - it makes no difference but it is funny to watch
Just advertorial hype to get over their bad rep.
it appears upper case may be distressing to some and causing some angst so i'm in favour of perhaps having the government step in and making the practice illegal. (i hope a full stop doesn't annoy anyone)
How did you get on with the generator ???
love to hear the outcome of it
Cheers John
I've got my Honda i20 from the Generator place by far the cheapest that time
www.generatorplace.com.au/
Cheers John
Thanks John, just checked the site and the price looks very competitive. I don't think I mentioned before but I'm halfway through converting a LWB High Roof Sprinter 316 as a camper and have bought so much to put in it eg; utensils, stoves, camping gear, fishing gear etc that I'm starting to get concerned on where all this will fit. The plan is to store a lot under the rear single beds so will probably put a generator on hold until the overhead cupboards and beds are fitted. The Sprinter was a bit of a mad moment purchase as I also have a caravan, Landcruiser and tinnie that sits on top but I'm really enjoying the Sprinter project as its a real mind stretcher with lots of hurdles to overcome and many trips to Bunnings. Regards Eddy
Hi Eddy
You've got the dream vehicle there
Heaps of space to store stuff away in
I hope it will tow the van with no problems mate
Cheers John
I payed $1599 for my Honda more than a year ago