I see the Kiwi's are having two referendums on their choice of Flag for NZ.
The first referendum this year will be to choose an alternative flag preference from those chosen by a committee, the second referendum in 2016 will be to choose between the winner of the first referendum and their current flag. See;
All nice designs. Getting rid of the Union Jack , as Canada has done, is probably a good thing. I'm not a Republican or Monarchist but I think the Union Jack has had it's day on any flags of Comonwealth countries.
Weevil said
09:28 PM Aug 11, 2015
Irrespective of any preferences, the current Kiwi Flag is too close in design etc to the Australian Flag and has been confused by a lot of overseas countries when they have to fly it and they have often flown the wrong flag or used the wrong one as a stage backdrop.
Be interesting to see what the result is in March 2016.
-- Edited by Weevil on Wednesday 12th of August 2015 05:05:21 AM
Weevil said
12:07 PM Aug 12, 2015
Spydermann wrote:
All nice designs. Getting rid of the Union Jack , as Canada has done, is probably a good thing. I'm not a Republican or Monarchist but I think the Union Jack has had it's day on any flags of Comonwealth countries.
Yes, the Union Flag (Union Jack) is the combined flags of England, Scotland and Ireland (Wales was considered part of England at the time so was not incorporated in the flag design), hardly relevant to NZ or Australia IMHO.
Whatever NZ decides, I wish them well, whatever they choose (current or other) they may not get another opportunity for a very long time, if ever.
kiwijims said
10:23 AM Aug 13, 2015
I've had a close look at the designs for a new flag and must say, there are some good ones there,
I agree, it's about time the union jack was dumped, it has very little to do with N,Z, I would like to see the Silver Fern and the Southern cross on a new flag also retain a dark background preferably a deep blue.
Lets hope the final colours are symbolic to N.Z. with some reference to the Maori population, and not some Gordy colours of a cheap design.
Lest hope they get it right the first time, as you say VIC, it may well be a long time to change it again should they get it wrong this time round.
maybe something like this..........
K.J.
Weevil said
11:45 AM Aug 13, 2015
I notice a lot of Kiwi's in Oz have a fern decal on their cars and it looks so smart as a symbol and no doubt shows their pride in being from NZ. Are you entitled to vote on it KJ ?
I was wondering how Kiwi's living in Oz get on with voting on the subject.
kiwijims said
04:22 PM Aug 13, 2015
No can do VIC, I left N.Z. before I was old enough to Vote, therefore I am not recorded on the role over there, as far as a registered Kiwi living or holidaying over here goes, they should be able to have their say by putting in a absentee vote, I presume through the Consulate in Sydney.
"Yep" I've also seen the Silver fern on the back end of many cars owned by Kiwi's over here, in fact I have had one of the ferns sitting in my draw for a couple of years now, bought it to stick on one of the caravans I have owned but, never got around to doing it, I keep changing vans too often, LOL
K.J.
Weevil said
05:31 PM Aug 13, 2015
I like the fern too, you could always put it on your tug, too good not to use it.
OT, but this is the link that shows the Union Flag aka Union Jack (when used on Brit Navy Ships) does not have a symbol (cross etc) for Wales on it, only England, Scotland & Ireland. Wales was considered at the time to be represented by the English cross of St George, see; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom
Weevil said
07:55 PM Aug 13, 2015
At the close of submissions for alternative NZ Flags, they had received 10, 292 entries, see this link for all entries, the majority of which have now been whittled down by a Flag Consideration Panel to 40, that 40 to be further whittled down to 4 for the first referendum see;
I see the Kiwi's are having two referendums on their choice of Flag for NZ.
The first referendum this year will be to choose an alternative flag preference from those chosen by a committee, the second referendum in 2016 will be to choose between the winner of the first referendum and their current flag. See;
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2015/08/11/new-zealand-gets-first-look-list-flag-options
Irrespective of any preferences, the current Kiwi Flag is too close in design etc to the Australian Flag and has been confused by a lot of overseas countries when they have to fly it and they have often flown the wrong flag or used the wrong one as a stage backdrop.
Be interesting to see what the result is in March 2016.
Another article on the NZ Flag;
http://www.startsatsixty.com.au/current-affairs/news/new-zealands-new-flag-designs-which-should-they-choose
-- Edited by Weevil on Wednesday 12th of August 2015 05:05:21 AM
Yes, the Union Flag (Union Jack) is the combined flags of England, Scotland and Ireland (Wales was considered part of England at the time so was not incorporated in the flag design), hardly relevant to NZ or Australia IMHO.
Whatever NZ decides, I wish them well, whatever they choose (current or other) they may not get another opportunity for a very long time, if ever.
I've had a close look at the designs for a new flag and must say, there are some good ones there,
I agree, it's about time the union jack was dumped, it has very little to do with N,Z, I would like to see the Silver Fern and the Southern cross on a new flag also retain a dark background preferably a deep blue.
Lets hope the final colours are symbolic to N.Z. with some reference to the Maori population, and not some Gordy colours of a cheap design.
Lest hope they get it right the first time, as you say VIC, it may well be a long time to change it again should they get it wrong this time round.
maybe something like this..........
K.J.
I notice a lot of Kiwi's in Oz have a fern decal on their cars and it looks so smart as a symbol and no doubt shows their pride in being from NZ.
Are you entitled to vote on it KJ ?
I was wondering how Kiwi's living in Oz get on with voting on the subject.
No can do VIC, I left N.Z. before I was old enough to Vote, therefore I am not recorded on the role over there, as far as a registered Kiwi living or holidaying over here goes, they should be able to have their say by putting in a absentee vote, I presume through the Consulate in Sydney.
"Yep" I've also seen the Silver fern on the back end of many cars owned by Kiwi's over here, in fact I have had one of the ferns sitting in my draw for a couple of years now, bought it to stick on one of the caravans I have owned but, never got around to doing it, I keep changing vans too often, LOL
K.J.
I like the fern too, you could always put it on your tug, too good not to use it.
OT, but this is the link that shows the Union Flag aka Union Jack (when used on Brit Navy Ships) does not have a symbol (cross etc) for Wales on it, only England, Scotland & Ireland. Wales was considered at the time to be represented by the English cross of St George, see; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom
At the close of submissions for alternative NZ Flags, they had received 10, 292 entries, see this link for all entries, the majority of which have now been whittled down by a Flag Consideration Panel to 40, that 40 to be further whittled down to 4 for the first referendum see;
All Entries (10, 292)
https://www.govt.nz/browse/engaging-with-government/the-nz-flag-your-chance-to-decide/gallery/?start=120&sort=random&scroll=true
Passing of Bill today For Flag Referendums by narrow majority;
http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/flag-bill-passed-by-parliament-2015081318#axzz3igfUBbK3
A very moving story by a Kiwi on a proposed flag, well worth the read;
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/12327109/Don-t-just-change-a-flag-raise-a-standard
Kiwi Vet's Soldier's Tattoo's...
See; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2977118/The-tattooist-got-call-Russia-asking-stencil-Kiwi-war-veteran-s-ANZAC-tattoo-social-media-hit-globe.html
-- Edited by Weevil on Friday 14th of August 2015 08:20:24 PM
Cheers John