Good article John, it's what I have had an uneasy feeling for some time. Top man.
Dougwe said
07:57 PM Jul 31, 2015
Good read Rocky. I got my Colorado and Van with all that in mind actually.
That said I still had a problem with the wight of the van being over at the end of the day so had to sit down and work out what I could do without and now all is ok.
I am in the process of going through "stuff" that I carry around in the back of the Collie and found things with a little weight in them that I haven't seen for 10 months so they must really just be "stuff" so out they have gone.
Woody n Sue said
09:49 PM Jul 31, 2015
Yes I got that too a really good article
Also a friend is looking at a new ranger and showed me the pamphlet and to my astonishment it actually had the GCM listed there
As they all should, so that made it much easier to explain to him accurately how it all works.
Woody n Sue said
09:50 PM Jul 31, 2015
Yes I got that too a really good article
Also a friend is looking at a new ranger and showed me the pamphlet and to my astonishment it actually had the GCM listed there
As they all should, so that made it much easier to explain to him accurately how it all works.
Cruising Cruze said
10:01 PM Jul 31, 2015
We need Caravans that can have 1.5 ton of water on board Than we have reason to import the Ford F650
Cheers John
Dreamweaver said
10:38 PM Jul 31, 2015
Thanks for the heads up John. I tell you all this "stuff" on weights of vehicles, weights of vans, towing capacities of vehicles (believable or make believe) etc etc makes my head spin. I have put it out there for anybody who has a late model Pajero and who may tow a van with an ATM range of between 2600 to 2900 KGS to let me know if I'm dreaming or not. I need to know if it is feasible before we make a final decision on the purchase of our van.
Blair
Plendo said
10:50 PM Jul 31, 2015
Excellent article.
It is worth noting that the problem with payload is not unique to the utes, MOST of the big 4WD wagons have exactly the same problem, especially once you add little things like bullbars, roof racks, extra spare wheel etc. Many vehicles being used for towing can not afford the weight for fuel, or a passenger.
-- Edited by Plendo on Friday 31st of July 2015 10:51:54 PM
Desert Dweller said
05:59 AM Aug 1, 2015
Towing capacity of our ute 3000kg, weight of our van fully loaded 1500kg. Enough said.
Too many rigs getting around ''loaded to the max & beyond''. Should be pulled up by the authorities for dangerous driving.
Ontos45 said
10:47 AM Aug 1, 2015
Hear, hear!
JayDee said
05:47 PM Aug 2, 2015
Agree great article John.
But I could not find any stats in regards to the Toyota Landcruiser 100 series or the newer 200 series.
Can I assume that the Cruiser would be similar to the Land Rover Discovery??????
Jay&Dee
Radar said
09:20 PM Aug 2, 2015
Hi, with our Nissan Navara the drivers manual, tow bar and the inside drivers door has referances to weights with a sliding scale as to what on the tow ball and what is your carrying allowances when towing.
what I find interesting is the tare weight for a new model Navara is about 600kgs by memory lighter then the one I have. Ours is a 3000lt. V6 maybe the new small motor is a lot lighter.
Plendo said
03:07 AM Aug 3, 2015
JayDee, similar yes, it has 4 wheels, and a stated towing capacity of 3,500kg. But about there the similarity ends, one was designed this century.....
OK, I know, I am off to the Naughty room now.
-- Edited by Plendo on Monday 3rd of August 2015 03:08:37 AM
Gday...
Just received this article. I offer it without comment - simply for its information value.
I suggest it be read with an open mind and perhaps an application of logic.
http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/content/news/2015/the-truth-about-3500kg-tow-ratings-52864\
Cheers - John
That said I still had a problem with the wight of the van being over at the end of the day so had to sit down and work out what I could do without and now all is ok.
I am in the process of going through "stuff" that I carry around in the back of the Collie and found things with a little weight in them that I haven't seen for 10 months so they must really just be "stuff" so out they have gone.
Also a friend is looking at a new ranger and showed me the pamphlet and to my astonishment it actually had the GCM listed there
As they all should, so that made it much easier to explain to him accurately how it all works.
Also a friend is looking at a new ranger and showed me the pamphlet and to my astonishment it actually had the GCM listed there
As they all should, so that made it much easier to explain to him accurately how it all works.
We need Caravans that can have 1.5 ton of water on board

Than we have reason to import the Ford F650
Cheers John
Blair
Excellent article.
It is worth noting that the problem with payload is not unique to the utes, MOST of the big 4WD wagons have exactly the same problem, especially once you add little things like bullbars, roof racks, extra spare wheel etc. Many vehicles being used for towing can not afford the weight for fuel, or a passenger.
-- Edited by Plendo on Friday 31st of July 2015 10:51:54 PM
Too many rigs getting around ''loaded to the max & beyond''. Should be pulled up by the authorities for dangerous driving.
Hear, hear!
But I could not find any stats in regards to the Toyota Landcruiser 100 series or the newer 200 series.
Can I assume that the Cruiser would be similar to the Land Rover Discovery??????
Jay&Dee
Hi, with our Nissan Navara the drivers manual, tow bar and the inside drivers door has referances to weights with a sliding scale as to what on the tow ball and what is your carrying allowances when towing.
what I find interesting is the tare weight for a new model Navara is about 600kgs by memory lighter then the one I have. Ours is a 3000lt. V6 maybe the new small motor is a lot lighter.
JayDee, similar yes, it has 4 wheels, and a stated towing capacity of 3,500kg. But about there the similarity ends, one was designed this century.....
OK, I know, I am off to the Naughty room now.
-- Edited by Plendo on Monday 3rd of August 2015 03:08:37 AM