Which is the best way to store/carry diesel, Plastic or Metal containers? Both are yellow.
I asked at the store and got, "Dunno".
I'm assuming metal but I thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Nomes.
Hey Jim said
05:50 PM Jul 7, 2015
Hi Nomes,
We carry our Diesel in black Rheem plastic 20lt Gerry cans since 2002. Never had a problem. All petrol is carried out side, as well as the generator. never a problem.
PS. Allways place petrol cans on the ground to stop stasic electricity set off petrol fumes when refilling.
Hey Jim & Lambie
The Hats said
08:01 PM Jul 7, 2015
I use yellow jerries, I have had 4 willow 20ltr ones for 8 years they have travelled about 30,000 ks on the side of our old off road camper trailer plus in the back of the Troopy for work no troubles :D
Cheers
The Hats
PeterD said
01:12 AM Jul 8, 2015
The best way to carry extra fuel is in an auxiliary tank plumbed with the main tank. I know I will probably not save enough in fuel costs to pay for it but gee it's great to have the bigger tank capacity.
Nomes said
07:05 PM Jul 8, 2015
Thanks for your responses.
The plastic ones are half the price of the metal ones.
I tried ringing Roads and Maritime for this answer but could not find who I could ask.
With my work I usually just carry a 1 litre container for my hedge Trimmer and only enough for the job that day.
Can I carry the fuel in the back of the ute with a lock down lid or do I need to mount them externally?
Thanks.
Naomi
Aus-Kiwi said
01:10 AM Jul 9, 2015
Diesel is quite safe..
Dodge said
01:33 PM Jul 9, 2015
I use yellow plastic ones for my diesel, have found that they do not sweat as much as the metal ones (water in side the container), just a reminder that it is now illegal to carry petrol in Jerry cans on the back of your caravan or vehicle in Western Australia, Not to sure about other states.
Peter_n_Margaret said
05:06 AM Jul 10, 2015
Hey Jim wrote:
We carry our Diesel in black Rheem plastic 20lt Gerry cans since 2002.
I second the Rheem product (marketed as "Fuel Safe"). Been using them for over 20 years without failure.
They are now available in several colours as well as black.
Cheers,
Peter
Nomes said
07:56 AM Jul 11, 2015
Thank you for your input, most appreciated.
Hey Jim said
02:40 PM Jul 11, 2015
Hey Dodge,
Does that apply to diesel as well.
Jim
iana said
04:54 PM Jul 11, 2015
Dodge, can you qualify your statement. In the back, at the back or attached to the very back, i.e. as a bumper. I regularly carry about 170 litres in plastic jerry cans on the back of a company ute. Never heard of that one.
Dodge said
08:41 PM Jul 11, 2015
Sorry if I confused anyone with this, When I registered the caravan, told by police that petrol was not allowed to be carried in the holders on the rear/bumper of the van or car, diesel was ok. they stated that if there was a rear end crash the petrol had the potential to ignite ????
blaze said
09:04 PM Jul 11, 2015
I think they may have to move the fuel tank in cars, maybe put them under the middle then in an accident you can get really hot arse
cheers
iana said
07:59 AM Jul 12, 2015
I manage the fuel at work for small plant. Probably have about eight 20-25 litre containers of petrol and diesel, which I have to fill up at the local gas station every couple of weeks. And we carry about twenty 5 & 10 lt. containers about in the trucks.
All of the containers are now plastic. We used metal 10lt jerry cans for a while, but found the filler cap seal area got damaged, so the containers leaked, there was a chance of metal to metal knocks causing a spark, and the last issue was when the containers were in the sun, pressure built up, and when one was opened the operator got sprayed with petrol.
My thoughts are that the containers should be carried on the tray of the ute, they should have protection from direct sunlight. If they are plastic, they should have a supporting cradle because the heat of the day and cooling of the night and the vapour pressure causes the containers to distort.
Don't fill them above the full level line marked on the container, the space left after filling to this line is for expansion.
By protection from direct sunlight I also mean a cover and then an air gap between the cover and the container.
Just another note, petrol doesn't explode or burn. Its the vapour that burns and when the air mix is right it explodes. So potentially an empty container having had petrol in it is more dangerous than a full one. Mind you if a full container starts to leak, I don't want to be around.
Nomes said
01:05 PM Jul 12, 2015
Ok, here is my decision, I'm not going to carry spare fuel, just an new empty container for just in case!
Great discussion, thanks everyone.
greyhoundtom said
08:45 PM Jul 12, 2015
Nomes wrote:
Ok, here is my decision, I'm not going to carry spare fuel, just an new empty container for just in case!
Great discussion, thanks everyone.
Make it worth your while and carry two empty containers, for just in case.
You never know........I was extremely grateful to be able to get four liters out of a fuel can carried for the generator as my GPS led me astray trying to get me to drive off a great hight by telling me to make a left hand turn off an overpass.
This resulted in having to travel a hell of a lot further than originally counted on. Lol
Cheers, Tom
Hey Jim said
10:27 PM Jul 12, 2015
Well then,
When the police pull over every second grey nomad who carries Gerry cans on the back bumper bar, and starts playing Russian roulette while sniffing around to confirm its contents.
Will we have a duty of care, to prop them up on the side of the road.
Before driving off on our merry ways!
Some of us do carry extra water you know.
iana said
09:50 AM Jul 19, 2015
Its a pity that when members on the forum ask questions, expecting reasonable answers, then the rest of us as members, its our duty to aid if we can. For some of us its a good idea to remember the fable re "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Hey -------Jim.
-- Edited by iana on Sunday 19th of July 2015 09:51:10 AM
Jaahn said
12:17 PM Jul 19, 2015
blaze wrote:
I think they may have to move the fuel tank in cars, maybe put them under the middle then in an accident you can get really hot arse cheers
Hi blaze,
I think that 'they' have already moved the fuel tanks in cars and utes etc to the middle or in front of the rear axle to help prevent fire in accidents. They did it years ago actually. Those cars that "blow up" or burst into flames in the movies are really just Hollywood at work. Very rare in the real world.
So why would you now put your fuel back there?????? Seems silly to me with diesel ! Really stupid for petrol
Jaahn
PS I carry my spare diesel fuel in 10 liter black plastic certified fuel containers. Much easier for an old feller to handle than a 20l can. I have 5 of them but usually only carry one. I would say the thick plastic is more indestructable that the metal ones and does not wear holes when it rubs either !! Easier to fit in anywhere too.
J
-- Edited by Jaahn on Sunday 19th of July 2015 12:24:19 PM
-- Edited by Jaahn on Sunday 19th of July 2015 12:31:02 PM
Which is the best way to store/carry diesel, Plastic or Metal containers? Both are yellow.
I asked at the store and got, "Dunno".
I'm assuming metal but I thought I would ask.
Thanks,
Nomes.
Hi Nomes,
We carry our Diesel in black Rheem plastic 20lt Gerry cans since 2002. Never had a problem. All petrol is carried out side, as well as the generator. never a problem.
PS. Allways place petrol cans on the ground to stop stasic electricity set off petrol fumes when refilling.
Hey Jim & Lambie
The plastic ones are half the price of the metal ones.
I tried ringing Roads and Maritime for this answer but could not find who I could ask.
With my work I usually just carry a 1 litre container for my hedge Trimmer and only enough for the job that day.
Can I carry the fuel in the back of the ute with a lock down lid or do I need to mount them externally?
Thanks.
Naomi
I second the Rheem product (marketed as "Fuel Safe"). Been using them for over 20 years without failure.
They are now available in several colours as well as black.
Cheers,
Peter
Hey Dodge,
Does that apply to diesel as well.
Jim
cheers
All of the containers are now plastic. We used metal 10lt jerry cans for a while, but found the filler cap seal area got damaged, so the containers leaked, there was a chance of metal to metal knocks causing a spark, and the last issue was when the containers were in the sun, pressure built up, and when one was opened the operator got sprayed with petrol.
My thoughts are that the containers should be carried on the tray of the ute, they should have protection from direct sunlight. If they are plastic, they should have a supporting cradle because the heat of the day and cooling of the night and the vapour pressure causes the containers to distort.
Don't fill them above the full level line marked on the container, the space left after filling to this line is for expansion.
By protection from direct sunlight I also mean a cover and then an air gap between the cover and the container.
Just another note, petrol doesn't explode or burn. Its the vapour that burns and when the air mix is right it explodes. So potentially an empty container having had petrol in it is more dangerous than a full one. Mind you if a full container starts to leak, I don't want to be around.
Great discussion, thanks everyone.
Make it worth your while and carry two empty containers, for just in case.
You never know........I was extremely grateful to be able to get four liters out of a fuel can carried for the generator as my GPS led me astray trying to get me to drive off a great hight by telling me to make a left hand turn off an overpass.
This resulted in having to travel a hell of a lot further than originally counted on. Lol
Cheers, Tom
Well then,
When the police pull over every second grey nomad who carries Gerry cans on the back bumper bar, and starts playing Russian roulette while sniffing around to confirm its contents.
Will we have a duty of care, to prop them up on the side of the road.
Before driving off on our merry ways!
Some of us do carry extra water you know.
Its a pity that when members on the forum ask questions, expecting reasonable answers, then the rest of us as members, its our duty to aid if we can. For some of us its a good idea to remember the fable re "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Hey -------Jim.
-- Edited by iana on Sunday 19th of July 2015 09:51:10 AM
Hi blaze,
I think that 'they' have already moved the fuel tanks in cars and utes etc to the middle or in front of the rear axle to help prevent fire in accidents. They did it years ago actually. Those cars that "blow up" or burst into flames in the movies are really just Hollywood at work. Very rare in the real world.
So why would you now put your fuel back there?????? Seems silly to me with diesel ! Really stupid for petrol
Jaahn
PS I carry my spare diesel fuel in 10 liter black plastic certified fuel containers. Much easier for an old feller to handle than a 20l can. I have 5 of them but usually only carry one. I would say the thick plastic is more indestructable that the metal ones and does not wear holes when it rubs either !! Easier to fit in anywhere too.
J
-- Edited by Jaahn on Sunday 19th of July 2015 12:24:19 PM
-- Edited by Jaahn on Sunday 19th of July 2015 12:31:02 PM