We are currently at a Free Park the has a clear sign on the gate that no dogs are allowed.
But that does not stop some people from bringing their dogs in. There is cattle on this property with quite a few of the cows in calf, so I understand why the owners do not want dogs.
So people with dogs please do not enter places that are clearly marked as No Dogs before you spoil it for the rest of us.
Before to long the owners will shut the free camp because of dogs scaring the cattle
Bruce and Bev said
06:45 PM Jul 1, 2015
youre 100% right !! Seen this too many times before we people hide their dogs and smuggle them into areas they are banned from.
Eventually the site gets closed down because of the dog droppings or livestock issues.
(And I own a German Shepard, but she stays with my son when we travel)
barrie said
08:52 PM Jul 1, 2015
Time and time again dog owners seem fit to do as they like and don't pick up the crap makes them no better than packbackers with the loo paper.Taking dogs into NP's and property with signs saying not allowed deserve them to be shot on sight as they are feral pests.
The Bear said
10:06 AM Jul 2, 2015
We are camped at Fletchers creek, someone saw fit to allow their dog roam free, it attacked one of the chooks wandering around
jules47 said
10:47 AM Jul 2, 2015
We are in a showgrounds caravan park in Brisbane - dogs are allowed, on leads. This morning, one dog (sounded like a small yappy dog) barked continuously for about an hour - very annoying when trying to have a sleep in - would hate to be camped next to the owners. If they were out, their neighbours should tell them that the dog was barking, else they won't know - bark collars work well in training dogs not to bark.
Same thing could happen in a free camp as well.
jab160 said
02:58 PM Jul 2, 2015
many times i've seen folks, dogs on leads, walking about "markets etc ", people everywhere, dog leads trapping folks, dog sniffs your body areas, you push it away, owner takes offence....unreal.
Then on occassion, have observed dog relieving themselves.........owner did not give a rats.............( some dog owners are "strange" folks )......BTW....we have a dog, love it to bits.
jules47 said
03:07 PM Jul 2, 2015
jab160 wrote:
many times i've seen folks, dogs on leads, walking about "markets etc ", people everywhere, dog leads trapping folks, dog sniffs your body areas, you push it away, owner takes offence....unreal.
Then on occassion, have observed dog relieving themselves.........owner did not give a rats.............( some dog owners are "strange" folks )......BTW....we have a dog, love it to bits.
I agree about dogs at markets etc., - but the thing I worry about there is the dog usually the same level as a child in a prom - dogs should be banned from markets in my opinion. I like dogs - in the right place, and under control.
goldcoaster said
03:55 PM Jul 2, 2015
Why don't you say something to them , I do .
jules47 said
05:07 PM Jul 2, 2015
I often do! goldcoaster!
TommyG said
05:37 PM Jul 2, 2015
It's not the dogs fault. Shoot the owner.
NeilandRaine said
05:57 PM Jul 2, 2015
May as well add mine. Smoking is banned in out door dinning areas. Dogs are allowed to share anything they carry in the same area. BTW I am a non smoker
03_Troopy said
06:18 PM Jul 2, 2015
What are your thoughts on seeing eye dogs and other assistance dogs in the same situations?
goldcoaster said
06:36 PM Jul 2, 2015
If they are sitting at a restaurant usually they are not ferral Neil and Raine , If the state regulations allow it at that restaurant don't eat there if you don't like it. It is so easy to walk away , or complain to the owner . If they are doing the wrong thing tell the restauranter . So your a non smoker , big deal , we have put up with smoking for 100years . It is so easy to move on if you don't like it.
hako said
08:33 PM Jul 2, 2015
Toowoomba's weekend markets at the PCYC now do not allow dogs in due to the public liability risk.
The oversupply of graduate lawyers seeking any kind of litigation work may eventually mean banning dogs in any public areas just like smoking bans.
Bevandy2 said
10:09 PM Jul 2, 2015
There'll always be some who don't think the rules apply to them, a friendly reminder may be less confrontational than an outright protest, you never know what reaction you will get, we have met many wonderful folks and their pooches in caravan parks, and have found pretty much all are sensible responsible pet owners.
I believe there may be different rules for guide dogs, in some places anyway, but usually those dogs and owners are well trained and responsible.
Bevan
Aus-Kiwi said
10:26 PM Jul 2, 2015
At least. Keep em on lead and pick up their quarter pounders ! Ruff ruff...
jab160 said
09:56 AM Jul 3, 2015
How about this........we were free camped with several other folks, our jack russell was tethered under our awning, 7pm hell of a commotion outside, another dog was tearing my dog apart, i grab spare pole and am beating the crap out of the mongrel, owner and folks rush up, owner takes offence to me bashing his mongrel, myself and folks read him the riot act, i doubt it will achieve anything with him.
Kooroorinya Kelpie said
01:48 PM Jul 3, 2015
Hi all. I am a 2 dog owner and a smoker and a considerate person to boot. But if I wish to have my dogs with me in an unrestricted area and it upsets you I suggest you don't give me a rev up or you will be severely and unmercifully abused and apologies will not be forthcoming at the conclusion. And to the poster whose dog was attacked you should have finished the mongrel off and then put the tent pole where surgery would have been required to remove same from owner.Cheers.
Jack Mac said
05:11 PM Jul 3, 2015
Think you will find there is basically no restriction on Seeing Eye Dogs (National Parks?) and in most/many cases duly registered assistance dogs.
iana said
07:50 PM Jul 3, 2015
For your information, particularly the last paragraph.
The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953
Most dog owners are responsible but a few dont keep their pets under control and incidents
of livestock worrying seem to be on the increase.
The definition of 'livestock' for criminal proceedings under The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry. Game birds are not included.
However, for the purposes of civil proceedings under the Animals Act 1971 it includes pheasants, partridges and grouse in captivity.
Worrying is where a dog attacks or chases livestock in such a way that it could reasonably be expected to cause injury or suffering to it, or, in the case of female livestock, abortion, or the loss or diminution of their produce.
Legislation Governing Worrying of Sheep and other livestock
The main legislation governing worrying of livestock is:
The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 used alongside The Animals Act 1971
Under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 it is a criminal offence for a dog to be at large, (ie not on a lead) or otherwise under close control, in a field of sheep. Sheep dogs and police dogs are exempted from this provision.
It is also a criminal offence (for which the owner or a dog - and anyone else under whose control the dog is at the time) if a dog worries livestock on agricultural land.
An offence is not committed if
a. at the time of the worrying the livestock were trespassing,
or
b. the dog belonged to the owner of the land on which the trespassing livestock were
and the person in charge of the dog did not cause the dog to attack the livestock.
This Act is enforced by the Police and not the Local Authority.
The Animals Act 1971 is used in addition to the Dogs (protection of livestock) Act and places civil liability for damages done by a dog on the keeper of the dog. This includes damage by
killing or injuring livestock. The keeper of a dog for the purposes of this Act is the owner, or the person in
possession of, the dog. If the owner/keeper is under the Age of 16 the head of the household is liable.
Advice to Dog Owners and Dog Walkers
Dog Owners, whether they live rurally or are simply visiting the countryside for a walk, have a responsibility to keep their pets under control at all times. All dogs should be on a close lead when walking anywhere near livestock. Even the most loving family pet can become a menace when away from its owners control and encountering a flock of sheep.
Dogs caught worrying sheep are liable to be shot, even though farmers are reluctant to do this except as a last resort, and their owners liable to prosecution and heavy costs.
Hi
We are currently at a Free Park the has a clear sign on the gate that no dogs are allowed.
But that does not stop some people from bringing their dogs in. There is cattle on this property with quite a few of the cows in calf, so I understand why the owners do not want dogs.
So people with dogs please do not enter places that are clearly marked as No Dogs before you spoil it for the rest of us.
Before to long the owners will shut the free camp because of dogs scaring the cattle
Eventually the site gets closed down because of the dog droppings or livestock issues.
(And I own a German Shepard, but she stays with my son when we travel)
Same thing could happen in a free camp as well.
many times i've seen folks, dogs on leads, walking about "markets etc ", people everywhere, dog leads trapping folks, dog sniffs your body areas, you push it away, owner takes offence....unreal.
Then on occassion, have observed dog relieving themselves.........owner did not give a rats.............( some dog owners are "strange" folks )......BTW....we have a dog, love it to bits.
I agree about dogs at markets etc., - but the thing I worry about there is the dog usually the same level as a child in a prom - dogs should be banned from markets in my opinion. I like dogs - in the right place, and under control.
The oversupply of graduate lawyers seeking any kind of litigation work may eventually mean banning dogs in any public areas just like smoking bans.
I believe there may be different rules for guide dogs, in some places anyway, but usually those dogs and owners are well trained and responsible.
Bevan
How about this........we were free camped with several other folks, our jack russell was tethered under our awning, 7pm hell of a commotion outside, another dog was tearing my dog apart, i grab spare pole and am beating the crap out of the mongrel, owner and folks rush up, owner takes offence to me bashing his mongrel, myself and folks read him the riot act, i doubt it will achieve anything with him.
Think you will find there is basically no restriction on Seeing Eye Dogs (National Parks?) and in most/many cases duly registered assistance dogs.
The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953
Most dog owners are responsible but a few dont keep their pets under control and incidents
of livestock worrying seem to be on the increase.
The definition of 'livestock' for criminal proceedings under The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 includes cattle, sheep, goats, swine, horses and poultry. Game birds are not included.
However, for the purposes of civil proceedings under the Animals Act 1971 it includes pheasants, partridges and grouse in captivity.
Worrying is where a dog attacks or chases livestock in such a way that it could reasonably be expected to cause injury or suffering to it, or, in the case of female livestock, abortion, or the loss or diminution of their produce.
Legislation Governing Worrying of Sheep and other livestock
The main legislation governing worrying of livestock is:
The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 used alongside The Animals Act 1971
Under the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) Act 1953 it is a criminal offence for a dog to be at large, (ie not on a lead) or otherwise under close control, in a field of sheep. Sheep dogs and police dogs are exempted from this provision.
It is also a criminal offence (for which the owner or a dog - and anyone else under whose control the dog is at the time) if a dog worries livestock on agricultural land.
An offence is not committed if
a. at the time of the worrying the livestock were trespassing,
or
b. the dog belonged to the owner of the land on which the trespassing livestock were
and the person in charge of the dog did not cause the dog to attack the livestock.
This Act is enforced by the Police and not the Local Authority.
The Animals Act 1971 is used in addition to the Dogs (protection of livestock) Act and places civil liability for damages done by a dog on the keeper of the dog. This includes damage by
killing or injuring livestock. The keeper of a dog for the purposes of this Act is the owner, or the person in
possession of, the dog. If the owner/keeper is under the Age of 16 the head of the household is liable.
Advice to Dog Owners and Dog Walkers
Dog Owners, whether they live rurally or are simply visiting the countryside for a walk, have a responsibility to keep their pets under control at all times. All dogs should be on a close lead when walking anywhere near livestock. Even the most loving family pet can become a menace when away from its owners control and encountering a flock of sheep.
Dogs caught worrying sheep are liable to be shot, even though farmers are reluctant to do this except as a last resort, and their owners liable to prosecution and heavy costs.