The diamond cutting disc to grind this is approx. $170 for a 5 inch disc, not too many thieves armed with this sort of cutting gear
The contact for this chain is MIAMI STAINLESS. 'Google'
Peter
hako said
01:39 PM Jun 23, 2015
G'Day Peter - a month or so ago I wrote about some diamond coated cutting discs for use in a Dremel - they cost about 40c each and will cut through a high speed steel drill with no problems. The battery Dremel model is virtually silent as is the cutting disc when cutting.
Possibly the chain you describe is harder than HSS?
Regards
peterwm said
02:31 PM Jun 23, 2015
Denis,
I am in greenfields construction, where molly [molibdieium] as well as tungsten stainless is used, these are much harder forms, and @ those metre rates it is not standard stainless.
Also high speed drills are heat treated carbon, no match for any diamond disc, I can not find INCONEL chain, but have been told via Japan, to give an idea of the cost, 150mm pipe with 6mm wall = $3000 per metre, it is up to five times harder than any form of stainless, and is used in extreme cold and hot enviros.
I will go with the 16mm molly, no standard diamond disc will cut it, and since we will be doing LOTS of off road, it's one of the best ways to protect my $80K van, at least it will appeasethe insurance company, cheers
Peter
Dolly said
02:59 PM Jun 23, 2015
What exactly do you do with the chain to protect your van
peterwm said
04:50 PM Jun 23, 2015
Hi Dolly,
Thread it thru dual wheels and the independent suspension with a 'master' lock, we had kangaroos trapped on site a few days ago, 'master lock' was 8mm and the largest bulk cutters we could find would not look at this lock, and that was with two guys swinging on the bulk cutters, then tried a sledge hammer, no luck, went and got a genny and diamond cutter grinder.
Peter
patrol03 said
07:32 PM Jun 23, 2015
The fair dinkum pros just back up a tilt tray..Van,padlocks and chains all gone in 90 seconds and before you are out of bed .
hako said
07:37 PM Jun 23, 2015
Thanks Peter....it must be tough.
Trapper said
06:54 AM Jun 24, 2015
It is more silent and very easy to pick a lock,
Spydermann said
02:59 PM Jun 24, 2015
What gets me is that when you buy a length of chain for security reasons, the salesman seems to cut off what you require with a pair of appropriate bolt cutters. Never gives me that warm fuzzy feeling.
Had a friend have his expensive wheels on a HSV Commodore knocked off. Car on blocks. Whilst high up in a multi storey building talking with his insurance company, he watched as his car (sans wheels) got dragged onto a tilt truck. Car was found but brakes were all smashed.
Long Weekend said
03:52 PM Jun 24, 2015
Has anybody thought of unbolting the coupling hitch?
Then replacing the bolts with long screws and nyloc nuts screwed right up.
(In technical terms a screw has the thread the full length, while a bolt has the thread only part way.)
Unless the thief has a tilt tray then they would have to bring their own coupling hitch. Then spend quite a long time undoing the nuts before they can re-attach the coupling. It would mean that they would not be able to dive in and out quickly.
Murray
Spydermann said
04:00 PM Jun 24, 2015
I got a new Hayman Reese hitch last week and it's just what you say. It's not a quick release. Has a bolt thru it and it's way back under my ute.
I bought one of these before I got my new hitch & new van only to find out it doesn't work on either.
-- Edited by Spydermann on Wednesday 24th of June 2015 04:02:30 PM
A tow hitch is not even required if you really want to pinch a van.
A guy I knew was in a marital dispute with his wife and took off with a caravan behind his car. He had shoved the tow bar into the boot and tied it there. Only went a few kms and it did some damage but was effective.
If losing your van is going to cause so much angst, you may be better off selling it, using the money to buy wool and stay home and knit jumpers because you won't enjoy life on the road.
The Phantom
Baz421 said
09:35 PM Jun 24, 2015
peterwm wrote:
This chain may help give some sense of security.
Stainless 'Molly' Steel chain.
16mm x 1 metre = $97.00 load capacity 13,865kg
12mm x 1 metre = $50.00 load capacity 7.065kg
The diamond cutting disc to grind this is approx. $170 for a 5 inch disc, not too many thieves armed with this sort of cutting gear
The contact for this chain is MIAMI STAINLESS. 'Google'
Peter
Thanks Peter, but how are you going to use it to secure your van please?
Aus-Kiwi said
11:58 PM Jun 25, 2015
A good lock through the disk brakes.. Slows em down .. Just don't forget you've done it though..
I have enough trouble remembering to lower TV aerial .. Lol
Some blue breatherlizer stickers ? Lol
This chain may help give some sense of security.
Stainless 'Molly' Steel chain.
16mm x 1 metre = $97.00 load capacity 13,865kg
12mm x 1 metre = $50.00 load capacity 7.065kg
The diamond cutting disc to grind this is approx. $170 for a 5 inch disc, not too many thieves armed with this sort of cutting gear
The contact for this chain is MIAMI STAINLESS. 'Google'
Peter
Possibly the chain you describe is harder than HSS?
Regards
Denis,
I am in greenfields construction, where molly [molibdieium] as well as tungsten stainless is used, these are much harder forms, and @ those metre rates it is not standard stainless.
Also high speed drills are heat treated carbon, no match for any diamond disc, I can not find INCONEL chain, but have been told via Japan, to give an idea of the cost, 150mm pipe with 6mm wall = $3000 per metre, it is up to five times harder than any form of stainless, and is used in extreme cold and hot enviros.
I will go with the 16mm molly, no standard diamond disc will cut it, and since we will be doing LOTS of off road, it's one of the best ways to protect my $80K van, at least it will appeasethe insurance company, cheers
Peter
Thread it thru dual wheels and the independent suspension with a 'master' lock, we had kangaroos trapped on site a few days ago, 'master lock' was 8mm and the largest bulk cutters we could find would not look at this lock, and that was with two guys swinging on the bulk cutters, then tried a sledge hammer, no luck, went and got a genny and diamond cutter grinder.
Peter
Had a friend have his expensive wheels on a HSV Commodore knocked off. Car on blocks. Whilst high up in a multi storey building talking with his insurance company, he watched as his car (sans wheels) got dragged onto a tilt truck. Car was found but brakes were all smashed.
Then replacing the bolts with long screws and nyloc nuts screwed right up.
(In technical terms a screw has the thread the full length, while a bolt has the thread only part way.)
Unless the thief has a tilt tray then they would have to bring their own coupling hitch. Then spend quite a long time undoing the nuts before they can re-attach the coupling. It would mean that they would not be able to dive in and out quickly.
Murray
I bought one of these before I got my new hitch & new van only to find out it doesn't work on either.
-- Edited by Spydermann on Wednesday 24th of June 2015 04:02:30 PM
A tow hitch is not even required if you really want to pinch a van.
A guy I knew was in a marital dispute with his wife and took off with a caravan behind his car. He had shoved the tow bar into the boot and tied it there. Only went a few kms and it did some damage but was effective.
If losing your van is going to cause so much angst, you may be better off selling it, using the money to buy wool and stay home and knit jumpers because you won't enjoy life on the road.
The Phantom
Thanks Peter, but how are you going to use it to secure your van please?
I have enough trouble remembering to lower TV aerial .. Lol
Some blue breatherlizer stickers ? Lol