"That's right" Blame the free campers, not the dead Roos or cattle or some of the locals which may have been around, "Oh No"
K.J.
Bruce and Bev said
09:12 PM Jun 12, 2015
interesting that the WA taxpayer is paying to supply water to the areas which only now exist to service the major resource companies like Rio Tinto - who should be installing de-salination plants rather than using WA's natural resources and paid for and run by public entities funded by taxation on households.
Then the public could use these natural resources.............bet Water Corp haven't provided any camping area in the designated reaction zone. How about providing septic tanks and composting toilets just as Main Roads WA do with no ground water seepage and also some large water tanks pumped by solar power from the Lake to provide water?
These PUBLIC utilities are to much in bed with the resource co's in WA. Bet they have some great Xmas' !!!!
kiwijims said
01:59 AM Jun 13, 2015
You have some very good points there Bruce,
I spent 17 years in the Water Corp, "Boy" could I tell you some tales of what went on there, But on leaving them I was sworn to secrecy and even had to sign a form stating as such, before I received any redundancy. They covered their Axx every way they can.
K.J.
The Phantom said
02:26 AM Jun 13, 2015
Nothing like a good conspiracy theory. Water in bed with iron, sh!t in their nests.
How about a rundown on 9/11. That hasn't been rolled out for a while.
The Phantom
-- Edited by The Phantom on Saturday 13th of June 2015 02:26:32 AM
PeterD said
10:09 AM Jun 13, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Then the public could use these natural resources.............
Let's get real, this is not a natural resource. It's man made. It should be locked off from general access like the dams around Sydney. These are also man made, the general public is kept out of them so as to keep down the need for extensive water treatment. Harding Dam is in exactly the same situation.
As for the ill informed comments about Kangaroo and cattle
Blame the free campers, not the dead Roos or cattle or some of the locals These animals waste products generally don't have products that cause human problems like human waste does.
Weevil said
10:21 AM Jun 13, 2015
kiwijims wrote:
You have some very good points there Bruce,
I spent 17 years in the Water Corp, "Boy" could I tell you some tales of what went on there, But on leaving them I was sworn to secrecy and even had to sign a form stating as such, before I received any redundancy. They covered their Axx every way they can.
K.J.
Do you still drink water from the home tap K.J. ?
-- Edited by Weevil on Saturday 13th of June 2015 10:21:53 AM
kiwijims said
10:47 AM Jun 13, 2015
PeterD wrote:
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Then the public could use these natural resources.............
Let's get real, this is not a natural resource. It's man made. It should be locked off from general access like the dams around Sydney. These are also man made, the general public is kept out of them so as to keep down the need for extensive water treatment. Harding Dam is in exactly the same situation.
As for the ill informed comments about Kangaroo and cattle
Blame the free campers, not the dead Roos or cattle or some of the locals These animals waste products generally don't have products that cause human problems like human waste does.
Now lets get real, "really" You mean to say I wasted my time spending years in the North West working on the water supply, One job we had was hauling all the dead animals out of the dams, if you think Road Kill is bad on the nose, try moving dead animals after a couple of weeks floating in water , in Sun temp of up to and beyond 50 deg C.
Sure fence off the Harding Dam, have you ever seen the size of the place, I doubt it !! it's a lot bigger than a Sydney Puddle and Who will pay for the fence ??????
G'day VIC, Yes I have tried the water in Perth lately, can't say it's as fresh as it used to be, but if you are dying of thirst I guess you could survive on it, I can't say I like the idea of drinking sea water although they say it has been Desalinated , that sand sure gives the fangs an edge.
K.J.
Bruce and Bev said
11:56 AM Jun 13, 2015
and who paid for the Harding Lake - the taxpayer - not the bloody resource companies - a couple of you have missed the point of this post altogether.
Rio Tinto wouldn't even blink if they had to put in a desal plant to supply their sites (watering down etc) and their staff. I worked on mine sites in this area and like KiwiJims can speak with some knowledge rather than blowing hot air!!
-- Edited by Bruce and Bev on Saturday 13th of June 2015 02:30:45 PM
Moonraker said
09:50 PM Jun 13, 2015
Perhaps KiwiJim can explain to me why in other countries it is OK to boat, swim, fish in dams but in Australia not so.
I understand that human waste should be kept away but this can be done by providing the correct facilities for day trippers and campers. The cost of this could/should be covered by the Mining companies after all it would be their own employees who would be out at these Dams enjoying a weekend camping or a day trip more than any other group.
Bruce and Bev said
08:35 AM Jun 14, 2015
Hi Nigel. Its not KiwiJim who is advocating banning hman use of this facility - its the WA Water Corp and on here Peter D.
I think KiwiJim and certainly I, agree with you 100% :)
Not sure if I would like to be driving along and see bigB (Bruce) or KFT for that matter sitting on one though
If you were that desperate to "Go" and couldn't find a private area I should think a good size towel over your legs might pass as ok.
Bruce and Bev said
12:33 PM Jun 14, 2015
reminds me of the time we were in outback SA (who don't provide public toilets in those areas). Needed to empty the bladder and hadn't found a rest area for ages, so stopped in shoulder of road, opened far side door and starting to feel better when out of no-where a tour bus comes trundling along - and of course being so high off the ground it means everyone can see.
Ever tried to stop quickly when you've been holding off for ages.........lol
kiwijims said
12:46 PM Jun 14, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
reminds me of the time we were in outback SA (who don't provide public toilets in those areas). Needed to empty the bladder and hadn't found a rest area for ages, so stopped in shoulder of road, opened far side door and starting to feel better when out of no-where a tour bus comes trundling along - and of course being so high off the ground it means everyone can see.
Ever tried to stop quickly when you've been holding off for ages.........lol
Bus full of tourists............. "Ah Soo, Lookie Pinky Winkie" ( Man holding new type of Wildflower ??? )
K.J.
Moonraker said
01:19 PM Jun 14, 2015
Sorry Bruce and Kiwijims, I should have asked Weevil with the experience of working for the water utility. It was a serious question. Why is it OK to go boating, swimming, fishing in dams overseas but not in Australia? Is there something different about Australian dams or how the water is treated for use. Fully understanding that its noT a good idea to us a dam as a toilet of course. Just using the dam for water sports and R&R. Cheers Nigel
-- Edited by Moonraker on Sunday 14th of June 2015 01:20:28 PM
kiwijims said
03:31 PM Jun 14, 2015
G'day Moonraker, All I can say to your question is that Water is more precious here than in some other Countries, therefore stricter control of it's use is vital for our survival .
I think guarding against oil spilt from a sinking boat for example, is necessary as it could wipe out a towns water supply very easily.
I can't speak for other countries as I've no idea what sort of filtration systems they use.
K.J.
Spydermann said
06:20 PM Jun 15, 2015
Moonraker. What you say is something I'm curious about. However there appears to be 3 levels of water supplies:
1. Those that you can boat, swim, fish etc. I was always thought this was "Industrial Water" - some factories & industrial complexes used have two water systems running thru them - one for drinking and the other for everything else.
2. Those that you can picnic around but cannot get near the edge of the water. Used for swimming pools that have heaps of chemicals in?
3. Those that you cannot get anywhere near and have high security fences. The final step before the water goes through filtration and treatment for domestic use?
A friend used have a water carting business. He carted all three types plus bore water and had issues moving between qualities.
Weevil said
10:31 PM Jun 15, 2015
Moonraker wrote:
Sorry Bruce and Kiwijims, I should have asked Weevil with the experience of working for the water utility. It was a serious question.
Hi Nigel, it was Kiwijims that worked for the water utility. I asked him whether he still drank water after seeing some of the things he must have witnessed while at the water place.....
-- Edited by Weevil on Monday 15th of June 2015 10:32:20 PM
"All right" Who's been paddling in the drinking water !!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-12/human-waste-risk-to-pilbara-drinking-water-source/6541844?section=wa
"That's right" Blame the free campers, not the dead Roos or cattle or some of the locals which may have been around, "Oh No"
K.J.
Then the public could use these natural resources.............bet Water Corp haven't provided any camping area in the designated reaction zone. How about providing septic tanks and composting toilets just as Main Roads WA do with no ground water seepage and also some large water tanks pumped by solar power from the Lake to provide water?
These PUBLIC utilities are to much in bed with the resource co's in WA. Bet they have some great Xmas' !!!!
You have some very good points there Bruce,
I spent 17 years in the Water Corp, "Boy" could I tell you some tales of what went on there, But on leaving them I was sworn to secrecy and even had to sign a form stating as such, before I received any redundancy. They covered their Axx every way they can.
K.J.
Nothing like a good conspiracy theory. Water in bed with iron, sh!t in their nests.
How about a rundown on 9/11. That hasn't been rolled out for a while.
The Phantom
-- Edited by The Phantom on Saturday 13th of June 2015 02:26:32 AM
Let's get real, this is not a natural resource. It's man made. It should be locked off from general access like the dams around Sydney. These are also man made, the general public is kept out of them so as to keep down the need for extensive water treatment. Harding Dam is in exactly the same situation.
As for the ill informed comments about Kangaroo and cattle
These animals waste products generally don't have products that cause human problems like human waste does.
Do you still drink water from the home tap K.J. ?
-- Edited by Weevil on Saturday 13th of June 2015 10:21:53 AM
Now lets get real, "really" You mean to say I wasted my time spending years in the North West working on the water supply, One job we had was hauling all the dead animals out of the dams, if you think Road Kill is bad on the nose, try moving dead animals after a couple of weeks floating in water , in Sun temp of up to and beyond 50 deg C.
Sure fence off the Harding Dam, have you ever seen the size of the place, I doubt it !! it's a lot bigger than a Sydney Puddle and Who will pay for the fence ??????
G'day VIC, Yes I have tried the water in Perth lately, can't say it's as fresh as it used to be, but if you are dying of thirst I guess you could survive on it, I can't say I like the idea of drinking sea water although they say it has been Desalinated , that sand sure gives the fangs an edge.
K.J.
and who paid for the Harding Lake - the taxpayer - not the bloody resource companies - a couple of you have missed the point of this post altogether.
Rio Tinto wouldn't even blink if they had to put in a desal plant to supply their sites (watering down etc) and their staff. I worked on mine sites in this area and like KiwiJims can speak with some knowledge rather than blowing hot air!!
-- Edited by Bruce and Bev on Saturday 13th of June 2015 02:30:45 PM
I understand that human waste should be kept away but this can be done by providing the correct facilities for day trippers and campers. The cost of this could/should be covered by the Mining companies after all it would be their own employees who would be out at these Dams enjoying a weekend camping or a day trip more than any other group.
I think KiwiJim and certainly I, agree with you 100% :)
http://www.bumperdumper.com/bumper2.htm
What a great idea.
Not sure if I would like to be driving along and see bigB (Bruce) or KFT for that matter sitting on one though
If you were that desperate to "Go" and couldn't find a private area I should think a good size towel over your legs might pass as ok.
Ever tried to stop quickly when you've been holding off for ages.........lol
Bus full of tourists............. "Ah Soo, Lookie Pinky Winkie"
( Man holding new type of Wildflower ??? 
)
K.J.
Sorry Bruce and Kiwijims, I should have asked Weevil with the experience of working for the water utility. It was a serious question.
Why is it OK to go boating, swimming, fishing in dams overseas but not in Australia?
Is there something different about Australian dams or how the water is treated for use.
Fully understanding that its noT a good idea to us a dam as a toilet of course. Just using the dam for water sports and R&R.
Cheers
Nigel
-- Edited by Moonraker on Sunday 14th of June 2015 01:20:28 PM
G'day Moonraker, All I can say to your question is that Water is more precious here than in some other Countries, therefore stricter control of it's use is vital for our survival .
I think guarding against oil spilt from a sinking boat for example, is necessary as it could wipe out a towns water supply very easily.
I can't speak for other countries as I've no idea what sort of filtration systems they use.
K.J.
1. Those that you can boat, swim, fish etc. I was always thought this was "Industrial Water" - some factories & industrial complexes used have two water systems running thru them - one for drinking and the other for everything else.
2. Those that you can picnic around but cannot get near the edge of the water. Used for swimming pools that have heaps of chemicals in?
3. Those that you cannot get anywhere near and have high security fences. The final step before the water goes through filtration and treatment for domestic use?
A friend used have a water carting business. He carted all three types plus bore water and had issues moving between qualities.
Hi Nigel, it was Kiwijims that worked for the water utility. I asked him whether he still drank water after seeing some of the things he must have witnessed while at the water place.....
-- Edited by Weevil on Monday 15th of June 2015 10:32:20 PM