Are there any members with the G and S self levelling legs or do you know anybody that has them ?
They look very good but I would like to know more about them.
I think they are about $4000.
cheers
Col.
-- Edited by Birdo on Friday 29th of May 2015 08:32:30 AM
blaze said
09:49 AM May 29, 2015
IMHO you should not level a van/motorhome from the legs. The leveling should be done from the wheels and then stabalisedd from the legs
I have seen chasis twisted and doors unable to be opened because of pressure on legs when trying to level
cheers
blaze
deverall11 said
10:20 AM May 29, 2015
blaze wrote:
IMHO you should not level a van/motorhome from the legs. The leveling should be done from the wheels and then stabalisedd from the legs I have seen chasis twisted and doors unable to be opened because of pressure on legs when trying to level cheers blaze
Ditto. That's a good way to bend things.
Birdo said
10:30 AM May 29, 2015
Hi
Thank you for the above answers.
These self levelling legs are made by G and S chasi makers who have been making caravan chassis for a long time.
In my opinion they would not be making and selling a product that would bend their chasi in any way at all.
Are there any members that have these installed or know of anyone that has?
Cheers
Col.
blaze said
10:47 AM May 29, 2015
could you please put up a link
From the moment the foot of a leg touches the ground, by continuing to lower that leg you are bend the chassis, by how much is determined by the amout you wind that leg down. I have seen some vans that have put very little down force on a leg and have been unable to open the door (done it my self). So when someone sugust self leveling to me that to me means an uncontrolled bending of the chassis, to what degree depends on the uneven surface. By the way, all chassis bend and twist, the how and dsegree is whats important
cheers
blaze
Thank you John This is the site that I was going to suggest Blaze have a look at. They are the ones that I am thinking of getting. Interesting point is he says they take the load OFF the suspension when levelling. As I said before why would a reputable chassis maker design and sell a product which could damage the chassis. I bought my first van,a Franklin,in 1970 and I am now on my tenth so I have levelled a few.At 76 I am now trying to make it easier for myself. On my Roma and Boroma I had the hydraulic corner jacks and these may have caused a crack above the door in the Roma. Cheers Col.
-- Edited by Birdo on Friday 29th of May 2015 01:04:38 PM
blaze said
01:43 PM May 29, 2015
Hi Col
The picture shown on a short length trailer I think they would be fine, used as a stabiliser the same as convental levellers I think would also be fine but to make the claim as a SELF LEVELLER I feel is over stating there use. I hope you find something that makes your experience easier.
cheers
blaze
Aus-Kiwi said
02:45 PM May 29, 2015
Stuff me ! I better be careful going over uneven ground if these permanently bend chassi's ..
We have been using outriggers on EPV's. For over 40 years and never had chassis issues..
A few have fallen over but not due to levellers ..
Admittedly if they have been fitted with extra long hydraulic Rams ?
That's another story..
I have levellers fitted as std to motorhome .. If fitted correctly the pose no problems..
Birdo said
02:50 PM May 29, 2015
Hi
The interesting thing about this is I posted the same question yesterday on another forum ,that i think has more members ,and not one reply.
What does this say??
Cheers
Col.
Aus-Kiwi said
02:55 PM May 29, 2015
Depends what chassis your using it on ?
Truck type are designed to flex..
Bruce and Bev said
04:43 PM May 29, 2015
I chatted with a guy who has been on the tech side of the caravan industry for about 40 years (and yep, hes still working). He has so much knowledge and owned 'vans and m/homes for years.
Hes says that motor homes should not need stablisers or levels - other than the plastic ones you back up onto to when on non-level ground. With vans - hes says the legs should be lowered so you can still slip a tissue paper between it and the ground. Any harder into the ground, you will damage the framework of your 'van
rockylizard said
06:55 PM May 29, 2015
Gday...
Let me first state that I have NOT got these fitted, do not represent anyone who has anything to do with their manufacture, sale or maintenance.
I doubt I would ever see that spending $5,000 on them would be value for money ... for me.
In consideration of, and understanding, those who may need them, if I got to the point that I could not physically operate the 'standard' legs (manually or with battery drill) or level the van on the 'ramps', I think I would take that as the clue to look for somewhere permanent to put the feet up and relax.
Having said all that, I have seen these in operation probably four times in my years of travel. Those who have them consider them the 'bees knees' and have not had an ounce of trouble with them - albeit those I have seen with them have been genuine off-road vans and two of them were damned big off-roaders too .
This video might give some further idea on how they operate -
Hi
Are there any members with the G and S self levelling legs or do you know anybody that has them ?
They look very good but I would like to know more about them.
I think they are about $4000.
cheers
Col.
-- Edited by Birdo on Friday 29th of May 2015 08:32:30 AM
I have seen chasis twisted and doors unable to be opened because of pressure on legs when trying to level
cheers
blaze
Ditto. That's a good way to bend things.
Thank you for the above answers.
These self levelling legs are made by G and S chasi makers who have been making caravan chassis for a long time.
In my opinion they would not be making and selling a product that would bend their chasi in any way at all.
Are there any members that have these installed or know of anyone that has?
Cheers
Col.
From the moment the foot of a leg touches the ground, by continuing to lower that leg you are bend the chassis, by how much is determined by the amout you wind that leg down. I have seen some vans that have put very little down force on a leg and have been unable to open the door (done it my self). So when someone sugust self leveling to me that to me means an uncontrolled bending of the chassis, to what degree depends on the uneven surface. By the way, all chassis bend and twist, the how and dsegree is whats important
cheers
blaze
Gday...
Have a gander at these -
http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/content/news/2013/self-levelling-legs-for-caravans-39336
Cheers - John
Thank you John
This is the site that I was going to suggest Blaze have a look at.
They are the ones that I am thinking of getting.
Interesting point is he says they take the load OFF the suspension when levelling.
As I said before why would a reputable chassis maker design and sell a product which could damage the chassis.
I bought my first van,a Franklin,in 1970 and I am now on my tenth so I have levelled a few.At 76 I am now trying to make it easier for myself.
On my Roma and Boroma I had the hydraulic corner jacks and these may have caused a crack above the door in the Roma.
Cheers
Col.
-- Edited by Birdo on Friday 29th of May 2015 01:04:38 PM
The picture shown on a short length trailer I think they would be fine, used as a stabiliser the same as convental levellers I think would also be fine but to make the claim as a SELF LEVELLER I feel is over stating there use. I hope you find something that makes your experience easier.
cheers
blaze
We have been using outriggers on EPV's. For over 40 years and never had chassis issues..
A few have fallen over but not due to levellers ..
Admittedly if they have been fitted with extra long hydraulic Rams ?
That's another story..
I have levellers fitted as std to motorhome .. If fitted correctly the pose no problems..
The interesting thing about this is I posted the same question yesterday on another forum ,that i think has more members ,and not one reply.
What does this say??
Cheers
Col.
Truck type are designed to flex..
Hes says that motor homes should not need stablisers or levels - other than the plastic ones you back up onto to when on non-level ground. With vans - hes says the legs should be lowered so you can still slip a tissue paper between it and the ground. Any harder into the ground, you will damage the framework of your 'van
Gday...
Let me first state that I have NOT got these fitted, do not represent anyone who has anything to do with their manufacture, sale or maintenance.
I doubt I would ever see that spending $5,000 on them would be value for money ... for me.
In consideration of, and understanding, those who may need them, if I got to the point that I could not physically operate the 'standard' legs (manually or with battery drill) or level the van on the 'ramps', I think I would take that as the clue to look for somewhere permanent to put the feet up and relax.
Having said all that, I have seen these in operation probably four times in my years of travel. Those who have them consider them the 'bees knees' and have not had an ounce of trouble with them - albeit those I have seen with them have been genuine off-road vans and two of them were damned big off-roaders too
.
This video might give some further idea on how they operate -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quK-4s3Zfyc
Horses for courses I reckon ... and if ya got the dough and want or NEED em .. go for it
Cheers - John
If used to keep level ? They would keep chassis level...
Must remember to tell the guys when fitting tyres too..
An interesting video.
I liked your posting on the other forum.
Wonder if I get any results in my answer to you?
Cheers
Col.
That no one there has them or knows anyone with them maybe ?
-- Edited by Bill B on Saturday 30th of May 2015 08:18:08 AM