I had a incident recently where a person walked behind me while I was reversing into a spot , he said I should have a reversing horn ,he was in no danger but had to comment on this issue . As I have had trucks most of my life and this is one of the first things they check at the yearly inspections I thought you are right. So I rang the dealer and said "how did this get through rego without a reversing horn " . He told me it was exempt and he was going to send me the Regulations governing this issue , still waiting. It is a Iveco 7t gvm 30' long first registered Qld. Dec.2014, I have to get it inspected every year and don't want any surprises at the next Inspection in case we are Interstate. I do have 2 reversing cameras .
Old Col said
07:32 AM May 29, 2015
-- Edited by Old Col on Friday 29th of May 2015 07:37:05 AM
Old Col said
07:35 AM May 29, 2015
does this help you
20.1.General
20.1.1.No siren, repeater horn, bell, exhaust whistle or compression whistle or other device capable of producing a sound resembling that produced by any such siren, repeater horn, bell or whistle must be attached to a motor vehicle other than an emergency community service vehicle.
20.1.2.For the purpose of this clause, a repeater horn is any device which generates an audible sound (to be emitted) alternating between different tones or frequencies on a regular time cycle.
20.2.Warning Device
Every motor vehicle must be fitted with a least one warning device capable of giving sufficient audible warning of the presence of the vehicle. It must give an audible signal having constant amplitude and frequency characteristics. It may be powered by any energy source including compressed air.
20.3.Reversing Alarm
Notwithstanding clauses 20.1 and 20.2 a further device may be fitted which when and only when reverse gear is selected emits an intermittent audible signal on a regular time cycle. It must not emit a signal louder than is necessary to warn persons of the proximity of the reversing vehicle.
migra said
10:36 AM May 29, 2015
I have an audible reversing alarm fitted to my tabletop because I have problems seeing people in car parks when reversing when a water sprayer tank is fitted, so I decided as a safety point to fit one. My understanding is;
The fitment of audible reverse warning devices is a common practice on heavy vehicles;it is however not mandated by Federal or State Vehicle Standards.
BTW, I do not have one fitted to my caravan, only because the my van does not have reversing lights fitted and it is difficult ( or I'm lazy) to get the wiring from the tow vehicle to the rear of the van.
It is my opinion that they should be fitted as standard.......from a safety point of view.
Kooroorinya Kelpie said
12:33 PM May 29, 2015
Hi Goldcoaster and all. The bloke who walked behind you and then tried to shift the responsibility onto you is the sort of dope who should'nt be allowed out without a minder and will probably meet his demise crossing a road' I have a M/home very similar in size to yours and there is NO legal requirement to fit a reversing alarm in Qld otherwise I'd have one. If you want to fit one the easiest way is purchase a 12v piezo alarm from someone like Jaycar and wire it in series to your reversing light circuit. This is a very simple and inexpensive job and any auto leccy could do it in an hour or less. The piezo alarms come in a range of decibel outputs so go for at least 130 decibels and even the hard of hearing will know your'e moving. If you reverse out of your CP site at 0600 it is gauranteed to get a reaction. Hope this helps. Cheers.
hako said
01:09 PM May 29, 2015
Simple one is to replace the bulb in the reversing lights with a bulb that incorporates the warning buzzer - SuperCheap carry them.
Good Luck.
PeterD said
02:27 PM May 29, 2015
hako wrote:
Simple one is to replace the bulb in the reversing lights with a bulb that incorporates the warning buzzer
All globes in lights with incandescent globes can only be fitted with new one conforming to "Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 51/00 Filament Lamps) 2006." The lights on your vehicle are designed so that they give the correct light spread and intensity with a particular size of light source. If you have a different size globe or mount that globe in a position other than the design position the optics produce a different light spread than the relevant ADR requires. That eans your lamp no longer conforms the the relevant ADR and your vehicle is considered unroadworthy.
Or to put it in colloquial terms, if you don't have the correct bulbs in your lights you can get pinged.
Aus-Kiwi said
02:52 PM May 29, 2015
Red tape over safety ! Just make sure the brightness is close to the others .
goldcoaster said
03:40 PM May 29, 2015
Hi guy's ,
Just wanted to know if I'm legal without one ,don't want to put one on if I don't need it. Thanks Mr Kelpie , so the dealer was right.
Cheers
Mick
hako said
05:51 PM May 29, 2015
In a large vehicle I'd have one fitted whether legal or not - if I injured somebody no matter if it was their fault I'd end up in a very dark place. I'd also have a rear view camera fitted which really should be compulsory in all vehicles - would save a lot of kids lives and much heartache. Goldcoaster has 2 cameras so that's cool.
Good Luck.
goldcoaster said
07:22 AM May 30, 2015
Came standard with 2 cameras , I have one on the Suzuki being flat towed and the other one out the back on traffic following. Can view split screen both cameras or one at a time. Actually it is cool , knowing what's happening behind you , I always check when I'm merging or overtaking I can see when I'm past or clear of other vehicles .
Aus-Kiwi said
10:50 AM May 30, 2015
A very low pitched buzzer from Jaycar . Can't be too safe .. If you've ever hit a child .. You'll NEVER get it out of your head ...
Edited.. ahh Jaycar not Jayco...
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 30th of May 2015 10:52:10 AM
Solo Steve said
09:37 PM May 30, 2015
I once had a Hiace Campervan that failed NSW rego inspection due to an inoperable reversing alarm. I now own a Coaster that was fitted with an Alarm when purchased second hand. I therefore assume that it is a requirement to have one fitted in NSW . In any case I think that they should be mandatory at least on a long rigid vehicle which has limited rear vision for the driver. Like it has been said I would hate to injure anyone.
I had a incident recently where a person walked behind me while I was reversing into a spot , he said I should have a reversing horn ,he was in no danger but had to comment on this issue . As I have had trucks most of my life and this is one of the first things they check at the yearly inspections I thought you are right. So I rang the dealer and said "how did this get through rego without a reversing horn " . He told me it was exempt and he was going to send me the Regulations governing this issue , still waiting. It is a Iveco 7t gvm 30' long first registered Qld. Dec.2014, I have to get it inspected every year and don't want any surprises at the next Inspection in case we are Interstate. I do have 2 reversing cameras .
-- Edited by Old Col on Friday 29th of May 2015 07:37:05 AM
does this help you
20.1. General
20.1.1. No siren, repeater horn, bell, exhaust whistle or compression whistle or other device capable of producing a sound resembling that produced by any such siren, repeater horn, bell or whistle must be attached to a motor vehicle other than an emergency community service vehicle.
20.1.2. For the purpose of this clause, a repeater horn is any device which generates an audible sound (to be emitted) alternating between different tones or frequencies on a regular time cycle.
20.2. Warning Device
Every motor vehicle must be fitted with a least one warning device capable of giving sufficient audible warning of the presence of the vehicle. It must give an audible signal having constant amplitude and frequency characteristics. It may be powered by any energy source including compressed air.
20.3. Reversing Alarm
Notwithstanding clauses 20.1 and 20.2 a further device may be fitted which when and only when reverse gear is selected emits an intermittent audible signal on a regular time cycle. It must not emit a signal louder than is necessary to warn persons of the proximity of the reversing vehicle.
I have an audible reversing alarm fitted to my tabletop because I have problems seeing people in car parks when reversing when a water sprayer tank is fitted, so I decided as a safety point to fit one. My understanding is;
The fitment of audible reverse warning devices is a common practice on heavy vehicles;it is however not mandated by Federal or State Vehicle Standards.
BTW, I do not have one fitted to my caravan, only because the my van does not have reversing lights fitted and it is difficult ( or I'm lazy) to get the wiring from the tow vehicle to the rear of the van.
It is my opinion that they should be fitted as standard.......from a safety point of view.
Good Luck.
All globes in lights with incandescent globes can only be fitted with new one conforming to "Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 51/00
Filament Lamps) 2006." The lights on your vehicle are designed so that they give the correct light spread and intensity with a particular size of light source. If you have a different size globe or mount that globe in a position other than the design position the optics produce a different light spread than the relevant ADR requires. That eans your lamp no longer conforms the the relevant ADR and your vehicle is considered unroadworthy.
Or to put it in colloquial terms, if you don't have the correct bulbs in your lights you can get pinged.
Just wanted to know if I'm legal without one ,don't want to put one on if I don't need it. Thanks Mr Kelpie , so the dealer was right.
Cheers
Mick
Good Luck.
A very low pitched buzzer from Jaycar . Can't be too safe ..
If you've ever hit a child .. You'll NEVER get it out of your head ...
Edited.. ahh Jaycar not Jayco...
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Saturday 30th of May 2015 10:52:10 AM
I once had a Hiace Campervan that failed NSW rego inspection due to an inoperable reversing alarm. I now own a Coaster that was fitted with an Alarm when purchased second hand. I therefore assume that it is a requirement to have one fitted in NSW . In any case I think that they should be mandatory at least on a long rigid vehicle which has limited rear vision for the driver. Like it has been said I would hate to injure anyone.