As a non-sand groper I guess I should apologise first
But the distance is about 100km from Perth to Myalup ?
Surely that is not too arduous given the distances there are between things in WA
I guess it is a big, and much welcomed event for WA though given the news article.
Cheers - John
Bruce and Bev said
07:12 PM Apr 29, 2015
the vehicles that kept running out of fuel were mainly from the Eastern States who are used to a servo every few kms.............
03_Troopy said
07:15 PM Apr 29, 2015
Seems to be a stack of servos just off the highway between the 2 points mentioned in the article though.. maybe it's just poor planning they run out of juice.
03_Troopy said
07:16 PM Apr 29, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
the vehicles that kept running out of fuel were mainly from the Eastern States who are used to a servo every few kms.............
Ahhhh... city folks... heyup... heyup...
rockylizard said
07:21 PM Apr 29, 2015
Gday...
Bloody mexicans - hopeless
I wonder how they got from Ceduna to Norseman if they couldn't plan a trip of 100-odd km from Perth to Myalup
Cheers - John
03_Troopy said
07:28 PM Apr 29, 2015
They were probably all driving piddly 4 cylindres, with 20L tanks ... hahahaha
Treecrest14 said
07:36 PM Apr 29, 2015
I live in WA, and I was amazed at all the whoha about not having servos on the new part of the highway/freeway! Most cars can travel at least 500km on a tank of fuel! But now big business wins again, and approval given. I've travelled that stretch several times and never seen a car on the side of the road - except for those enjoying a break in their journey. Personally, I'd rather turn off into some of the smaller towns and give them the money.
Bruce and Bev said
08:50 PM Apr 29, 2015
Hear Hear Glen !!!!! The multinationals and Westfarmers/Woolworths are closing down small businesses and whole small town shops. Im in Charlton and half the shops are empty as the locals go to Coles and Woolies at Bendigo once a week. Its sad to see how many keen folk tried to set up a shop, spent a small fortune getting it ready and then going down the tubes.
We always stop in small towns and buy something other than fuel - food, lunch - something............
Gundog said
04:54 AM Apr 30, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Hear Hear Glen !!!!! The multinationals and Westfarmers/Woolworths are closing down small businesses and whole small town shops. Im in Charlton and half the shops are empty as the locals go to Coles and Woolies at Bendigo once a week. Its sad to see how many keen folk tried to set up a shop, spent a small fortune getting it ready and then going down the tubes.
We always stop in small towns and buy something other than fuel - food, lunch - something............
Charlton is only one of thousands of small towns where the locals shop elsewhere, its not the Coles/Woolworths these town started to decay f our rural towns, it's when farms got bigger, motorcar's became more prevalent, the consumer wanted more choice, iconic country buying groups disappeared SSW Four Square etc.
I grew up in the Mallee, towns like Charlton, Boort, Lake Boga, Lalbert, Quambatook, Nyah, Nyah West, Piangle, Managatang, Ultima, all suffered the a similar fate first the banks started leaving, medical services, population shift to the bigger regional towns like Swan Hill and Kerang became the economic centre. my parents never owned a car until the 60's.
Those of us who grew up in the bush, fondly remember going to the corner store, where biscuits were sold out of 20lb tins we would buy a penny's worth of broken biscuits, bread and milk were home delivered, Coles and Woolies didn't have groceries we got our groceries from Hadlow's or Swan Hill stores, then came Roberts & Martin along with Permewn & Wright.
Its not the fault of the big 2 for our rural towns becoming ghost towns its out fault for wanting more in one place.
peterwm said
03:39 PM Apr 30, 2015
I live in Bunbury, 180klms south of Perth, when travelling to Perth I get just enough fuel to get to Perth then go to full tank to go home as Perth servos up to 12c cheaper, mid
highway servos dearer and Gull fuel is crap [Myalup]. Only serious idiots would need fuel between Perth & Bunbury, cheers
Peter
Weevil said
03:49 PM Apr 30, 2015
Bear in mind that servo's are also places to pull up for a coffee or snacks (and an additional toilet stop) especially if you have kids on board. A good move IMHO
usedtobe said
12:17 AM May 1, 2015
Good on ya weevil !!
Ondabeach said
09:53 AM May 1, 2015
Yep, always good to have a convenient stop on highway stretches. But if you run out of fuel on a short hop like that, then yeah, that's just a lack of planning. Not that any of us are immune to the occasional brain f#rt
And just to prove that all of us "Easteners" aren't completely useless... I just did a solo trip to bring a bus back form Perth to the Sunshine Coast in QLD and didn't get below a 1/3 of a tank the whole way. I think the longest stretch between servo's was about a 170k's.
I think everyone sympathises with small towns withering, but Gundog is right, you can't blame the supermarket chains, they're just supplying what we demand.
rockylizard said
10:11 AM May 1, 2015
Ondabeach wrote:
~~~SNIP you can't blame the supermarket chains, they're just supplying what we demand.
Gday...
Not sure I fully agree with the above comment, although I understand why it is said.
I think it is a bit of a 'chicken and egg' situation. Did supermarkets develop because "we demanded it" or because the 'marketeers' made it attractive. Rather than a walk to butcher/baker/grocer/green grocer/newsagent/chemist etc, one clever bloke decided to "put it all under one roof in a big shop" for the "convenience of the public".
OH yeah - let's not have staff to serve the customer either, let them get the goods for themselves and then present it to our operator to pay. They are even now progressively removing the 'operator to pay' ... we are being encouraged to even do our own 'check-out'.
So - did "we demand it" or were we 'encouraged/educated' into the centralising of things we used to have as a community?
I reckon the days when we used to deviate from the major 'bypass' highway into the smaller towns for fuel/tucker/loo/kids on the swing/leg stretch were much better for all.
Not only did it break the trip, but we got to see some lovely towns. Now some of businesses in those towns either shrink, stagnate or fold. Sad really.
Or do we all now prefer the antiseptic and impersonal 'big servo' with the Maccas/KFC/Subway/Latte shop?
Perhaps, like too many old farts I am past it and clinging futilely to the past.
Cheers - John
Ondabeach said
12:59 PM May 1, 2015
Just the way of the world John, always has been... if I could turn back the hands of time I would. People have been having the same conversation since Adam was a boy, every advancement in technology means change... and people are naturally reluctant to accept change. But, as with everything else in life, ya just gotta take the good with the bad and make the most of your short time above ground.
On the subject of the chicken and egg... the egg came first. Birds evolved from dinosaurs.. and they were egg layers
Hmmm... maybe every thread should be subtitled 'I digress"
Weevil said
01:44 PM May 1, 2015
The main aim of the Forrest Highway was to reduce the travel time between Perth and Bunbury and for those travelling further south. Most users of the Highway do not have the time to divert to the small towns off the highway while that may be an option for those travellers who have no timetable to speak of.
I live in Bunbury, 180klms south of Perth, when travelling to Perth I get just enough fuel to get to Perth then go to full tank to go home as Perth servos up to 12c cheaper, mid
highway servos dearer and Gull fuel is crap [Myalup]. Only serious idiots would need fuel between Perth & Bunbury, cheers
Peter
If you come home via Southwest Highway you could fuel up at Coolup (Placid Arc) you will find it 10 - 15cpl cheaper than anywhere in Perth.
A long time coming, but finally;
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-29/20m-forrest-highway-servo-plans-back-on-track/6430806?section=wa
Gday...
As a non-sand groper I guess I should apologise first
But the distance is about 100km from Perth to Myalup ?
Surely that is not too arduous given the distances there are between things in WA
I guess it is a big, and much welcomed event for WA though given the news article.
Cheers - John
Ahhhh... city folks... heyup... heyup...
Gday...
Bloody mexicans - hopeless
I wonder how they got from Ceduna to Norseman if they couldn't plan a trip of 100-odd km from Perth to Myalup
Cheers - John
We always stop in small towns and buy something other than fuel - food, lunch - something............
Charlton is only one of thousands of small towns where the locals shop elsewhere, its not the Coles/Woolworths these town started to decay f our rural towns, it's when farms got bigger, motorcar's became more prevalent, the consumer wanted more choice, iconic country buying groups disappeared SSW Four Square etc.
I grew up in the Mallee, towns like Charlton, Boort, Lake Boga, Lalbert, Quambatook, Nyah, Nyah West, Piangle, Managatang, Ultima, all suffered the a similar fate first the banks started leaving, medical services, population shift to the bigger regional towns like Swan Hill and Kerang became the economic centre. my parents never owned a car until the 60's.
Those of us who grew up in the bush, fondly remember going to the corner store, where biscuits were sold out of 20lb tins we would buy a penny's worth of broken biscuits, bread and milk were home delivered, Coles and Woolies didn't have groceries we got our groceries from Hadlow's or Swan Hill stores, then came Roberts & Martin along with Permewn & Wright.
Its not the fault of the big 2 for our rural towns becoming ghost towns its out fault for wanting more in one place.
I live in Bunbury, 180klms south of Perth, when travelling to Perth I get just enough fuel to get to Perth then go to full tank to go home as Perth servos up to 12c cheaper, mid
highway servos dearer and Gull fuel is crap [Myalup]. Only serious idiots would need fuel between Perth & Bunbury, cheers
Peter
Bear in mind that servo's are also places to pull up for a coffee or snacks (and an additional toilet stop) especially if you have kids on board. A good move IMHO
Yep, always good to have a convenient stop on highway stretches. But if you run out of fuel on a short hop like that, then yeah, that's just a lack of planning. Not that any of us are immune to the occasional brain f#rt
And just to prove that all of us "Easteners" aren't completely useless... I just did a solo trip to bring a bus back form Perth to the Sunshine Coast in QLD and didn't get below a 1/3 of a tank the whole way. I think the longest stretch between servo's was about a 170k's.
I think everyone sympathises with small towns withering, but Gundog is right, you can't blame the supermarket chains, they're just supplying what we demand.
Gday...
Not sure I fully agree with the above comment, although I understand why it is said.
I think it is a bit of a 'chicken and egg' situation. Did supermarkets develop because "we demanded it" or because the 'marketeers' made it attractive. Rather than a walk to butcher/baker/grocer/green grocer/newsagent/chemist etc, one clever bloke decided to "put it all under one roof in a big shop" for the "convenience of the public".
OH yeah - let's not have staff to serve the customer either, let them get the goods for themselves and then present it to our operator to pay. They are even now progressively removing the 'operator to pay' ... we are being encouraged to even do our own 'check-out'.
So - did "we demand it" or were we 'encouraged/educated' into the centralising of things we used to have as a community?
I reckon the days when we used to deviate from the major 'bypass' highway into the smaller towns for fuel/tucker/loo/kids on the swing/leg stretch were much better for all.
Not only did it break the trip, but we got to see some lovely towns. Now some of businesses in those towns either shrink, stagnate or fold. Sad really.
Or do we all now prefer the antiseptic and impersonal 'big servo' with the Maccas/KFC/Subway/Latte shop?
Perhaps, like too many old farts I am past it and clinging futilely to the past.
Cheers - John
Just the way of the world John, always has been... if I could turn back the hands of time I would. People have been having the same conversation since Adam was a boy, every advancement in technology means change... and people are naturally reluctant to accept change. But, as with everything else in life, ya just gotta take the good with the bad and make the most of your short time above ground.
On the subject of the chicken and egg... the egg came first. Birds evolved from dinosaurs.. and they were egg layers
Hmmm... maybe every thread should be subtitled 'I digress"
The main aim of the Forrest Highway was to reduce the travel time between Perth and Bunbury and for those travelling further south. Most users of the Highway do not have the time to divert to the small towns off the highway while that may be an option for those travellers who have no timetable to speak of.
A bit more info on the roadhouses here;
http://www.bunburymail.com.au/story/2222993/new-20m-forrest-highway-roadhouses-expected-to-be-ready-by-end-of-2014/
If you come home via Southwest Highway you could fuel up at Coolup (Placid Arc) you will find it 10 - 15cpl cheaper than anywhere in Perth.
Check on Fuelwatch.