Has anyone replaced their electric brakes on their caravan? Can you give me any tips on the best way to do it?
Cheers
Rod
Dougwe said
04:52 PM Apr 2, 2015
Not replaced completely but had major work done on them just last week and NOT CHEAP. Replaced two bearings and two magnets both also not cheap. Thank goodness for good dealer after sales service and warranties. Just make sure any work is done properly.
RodLainie said
05:08 PM Apr 2, 2015
Nowhere near a dealer, we are house sitting in Gladstone. I've already done the brakes and bearings but I'm going to do the magnets and need to know if anyone can give some advice.
Thanks Doug
Brenda and Alan said
05:18 PM Apr 2, 2015
What parts need replacing. Have just done my complete system (magnets, shoes and drums needed replacing) and found it was vastly cheaper to buy two complete sets than to buy just the parts required. Each set includes backing plates with shoes and magnets installed as well as a pair of drums including wheel bearings. I opted to buy without wheel bearing and paid $200 per set (one axle). I got Japanese timken bearings and seals from a bearing wholesaler for $100. Have just returned home today after a two day bedding in run and everything is working very well.
Alan
RodLainie said
05:29 PM Apr 2, 2015
Thanks Alan
All I have to do is the magnets
The brakes worked fine on our first lap and I thought after that I would see how they were and I found a light smear of grease on the drum where the magnet hits so I cleaned it off and found they did not work as good and now I am just not sure weather the grease was ment to be there
Rod
philip081958 said
07:39 PM Apr 2, 2015
leave them alone you fool its a mechanics job not some would be back yarder thats why we do trades to learn the corect way of doing things play with them good by insurance if in an accedent if some one dies you are up for manslauter is it worth it how foolish some people are to save a dollar a little know how is dangerous phill
RodLainie said
07:47 PM Apr 2, 2015
Thanks philip081958
For being so blunt and not having a brain I am a jack of all trades and grew up the hard way
Please if you ever see us around come and knock on my door you flip
Brenda and Alan said
08:15 PM Apr 2, 2015
Magnets run out at about $50 each for std and $125 each for off road the only difference being a plastic bush, go figure a $75 piece of plastic. Try this site "huntsmanproducts.com.au" Std magnets $47 per pair and they sell online. Check the wearing surface on the drums as if they are badly scored they will need machining or replacement to prevent premature wear on new magnets.
Alan
-- Edited by Brenda and Alan on Thursday 2nd of April 2015 08:17:40 PM
philip081958 said
08:54 PM Apr 2, 2015
brakes are not to be played withunless you realy no what you are doing .i did not meen to be rude or upset you but is realy dangerous to try and fix things if you are not properly trajned and if you were trained you would not be asking on the forum about brakes
Baz421 said
09:22 PM Apr 2, 2015
Rod
If your existing magnets and the brake drum are contaminated with grease or similar and not working efficiently why just fit new magnets??????
If the brake drums are stuffed you will need to replace both IMHO.
I would clean the brake drums again with a cleaner to dissolve the film of grease.
When brake shoes or drums were contaminated with oil (aka in the late 60's and into the 70's ie light trucks with oil filled rear axles) AND PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE we would use metho and wet them and then light them to burn off the grease/oil. Worked well in those days but is not the preferred method obviously.
Be carful you don't waste money for nothing or do 1/2 a job and hev to start again.
How have you assessed the brakes are "not working as good"????
Just my thoughts Cheers Baz
hako said
10:48 PM Apr 2, 2015
Rodlaine - I'm guessing the following is what you need. I recently changed my magnets - they were Alko off road magnets which were causing the brakes to grab badly due to wear making them wedge shaped. They are very easy to replace. I found the 2 links of great help. Common sense is all you need.
Thank you to all who sent intelligent helpful advice. I now have the problem sorted.
Cheers
Rod
deverall11 said
12:03 PM Apr 3, 2015
philip081958 wrote:
brakes are not to be played withunless you realy no what you are doing .i did not meen to be rude or upset you but is realy dangerous to try and fix things if you are not properly trajned and if you were trained you would not be asking on the forum about brakes
Don't mean to be rude or wanting to upset you philip081958, but you need to learn to spell. Try that first.
Larry
philip081958 said
08:46 PM Apr 3, 2015
Hi Larry my speeling might not be to good but it never kiled anyone and you understood it enough to reply.i did not try to offend people but brakes are things you should not play with cheers phill
Baz421 said
09:05 PM Apr 3, 2015
RodLainie wrote:
Thank you to all who sent intelligent helpful advice. I now have the problem sorted.
Cheers
Rod
Hi Rod - good news but if you could tell everyone what the solution is, it benefits us all.
Cheers Baz
RodLainie said
11:20 AM Apr 4, 2015
Hi Baz
It was just the magnets worn out.Shoes and drums are good elec all been checked
but it still felt slower than normal in stoping,now will pull up well and no it does not lock up
thanks again
Take Care
Rod
Baz421 said
07:39 PM Apr 5, 2015
RodLainie wrote:
Hi Baz It was just the magnets worn out.Shoes and drums are good elec all been checked but it still felt slower than normal in stoping,now will pull up well and no it does not lock up thanks again Take Care Rod
Thank Rod I really appreciate it when we can share this info as it gives others confidence IMHO.
Little ben said
06:42 PM Aug 27, 2020
You arrogant prick
yobarr said
07:54 PM Aug 27, 2020
Little ben wrote:
You arrogant prick
Hmmmmm.......I understand that some need time to formulate a considered response,but 5 years? Cheers
The Travelling Dillberries said
07:56 PM Aug 27, 2020
yobarr wrote:
Little ben wrote:
You arrogant prick
Hmmmmm.......I understand that some need time to formulate a considered response,but 5 years? Cheers
Must be personal.
iana said
08:03 PM Aug 27, 2020
Not the most informative answer, being first post.
Hylife said
09:20 PM Sep 2, 2020
I know the original post was 5 years ago but for those reading it again it might be worth covering the how what why etc.
I replaced the entire brakes on our Jayco for $200 using brand new complete brake assemblies from Huntsman, cheaper than just buying parts.
Hi
Has anyone replaced their electric brakes on their caravan? Can you give me any tips on the best way to do it?
Cheers
Rod
Thanks Doug
What parts need replacing. Have just done my complete system (magnets, shoes and drums needed replacing) and found it was vastly cheaper to buy two complete sets than to buy just the parts required. Each set includes backing plates with shoes and magnets installed as well as a pair of drums including wheel bearings. I opted to buy without wheel bearing and paid $200 per set (one axle). I got Japanese timken bearings and seals from a bearing wholesaler for $100. Have just returned home today after a two day bedding in run and everything is working very well.
Alan
All I have to do is the magnets
The brakes worked fine on our first lap and I thought after that I would see how they were and I found a light smear of grease on the drum where the magnet hits so I cleaned it off and found they did not work as good and now I am just not sure weather the grease was ment to be there
Rod
leave them alone you fool its a mechanics job not some would be back yarder thats why we do trades to learn the corect way of doing things play with them good by insurance if in an accedent if some one dies you are up for manslauter is it worth it how foolish some people are to save a dollar a little know how is dangerous phill
For being so blunt and not having a brain I am a jack of all trades and grew up the hard way
Please if you ever see us around come and knock on my door you flip
Magnets run out at about $50 each for std and $125 each for off road the only difference being a plastic bush, go figure a $75 piece of plastic. Try this site "huntsmanproducts.com.au" Std magnets $47 per pair and they sell online. Check the wearing surface on the drums as if they are badly scored they will need machining or replacement to prevent premature wear on new magnets.
Alan
-- Edited by Brenda and Alan on Thursday 2nd of April 2015 08:17:40 PM
brakes are not to be played withunless you realy no what you are doing .i did not meen to be rude or upset you but is realy dangerous to try and fix things if you are not properly trajned and if you were trained you would not be asking on the forum about brakes
Rod
If your existing magnets and the brake drum are contaminated with grease or similar and not working efficiently why just fit new magnets??????
If the brake drums are stuffed you will need to replace both IMHO.
I would clean the brake drums again with a cleaner to dissolve the film of grease.
When brake shoes or drums were contaminated with oil (aka in the late 60's and into the 70's ie light trucks with oil filled rear axles) AND PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE we would use metho and wet them and then light them to burn off the grease/oil. Worked well in those days but is not the preferred method obviously.
Be carful you don't waste money for nothing or do 1/2 a job and hev to start again.
How have you assessed the brakes are "not working as good"????
Just my thoughts Cheers Baz
Rodlaine - I'm guessing the following is what you need.
I recently changed my magnets - they were Alko off road magnets which were causing the brakes to grab badly due to wear making them wedge shaped. They are very easy to replace. I found the 2 links of great help. Common sense is all you need.
http://www.alko.com.au/uploads/2008/12/Electric_Brake_Handbook.pdf
https://www.couplemate.com.au/caravan-electric-brakes-faq/
Good Luck.
Thank you to all who sent intelligent helpful advice. I now have the problem sorted.
Cheers
Rod
Don't mean to be rude or wanting to upset you philip081958, but you need to learn to spell. Try that first.
Larry
Hi Larry my speeling might not be to good but it never kiled anyone and you understood it enough to reply.i did not try to offend people but brakes are things you should not play with cheers phill
Hi Rod - good news but if you could tell everyone what the solution is, it benefits us all.
Cheers Baz
It was just the magnets worn out.Shoes and drums are good elec all been checked
but it still felt slower than normal in stoping,now will pull up well and no it does not lock up
thanks again
Take Care
Rod
Thank Rod I really appreciate it when we can share this info as it gives others confidence IMHO.
You arrogant prick
Hmmmmm.......I understand that some need time to formulate a considered response,but 5 years? Cheers
Must be personal.
I know the original post was 5 years ago but for those reading it again it might be worth covering the how what why etc.
I replaced the entire brakes on our Jayco for $200 using brand new complete brake assemblies from Huntsman, cheaper than just buying parts.
https://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/products/10-5-stud-trailer-electric-drum-brake-kit-1
You just need to tell them what are the numbers on your current inner and out bearings as there are a few combinations available.
Process is easy after jacking up van onto jack stands for safety:-
Take off wheels,
take off axel dust cap and remove split pin and castellated nut
remove outer bearing and brake drum
cut brake wires near joiner on axel beam
remove four nuts from the four bolts that hold the brake backing plate and the remaining assembly to the axel to remove brakes and inner bearing.
Remove handbrake cable from brakes.
replace in reverse with new.
-- Edited by Hylife on Wednesday 2nd of September 2020 09:22:44 PM