For those of us who are truly "grey" nomads, and are not already aware, there is a new political party just for us oldies (over 50).
For details google "The Mature Age Party". This is not nutter party but has recently been set up to bring people in council/shire, State and Federal political arenas to look after all, but with an emphasis on looking after the mature folk. Apparently there are more than 10 million people over the age of 50 in Australia. That's almost half of the population.
This is not a political notice or discussion - but just refer those of you who are not already aware of this new Party to their web site for a read
PLEASE try to avoid bringing this thread into a political rights and wrongs discussion of the various parties and policies of the governments, or it will be removed as per the rules of this Forum
aussie_paul said
07:44 PM Mar 6, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
For those of us who are truly "grey" nomads, and are not already aware, there is a new political party just for us oldies (over 50).
For details google "The Mature Age Party". This is not nutter party but has recently been set up to bring people in council/shire, State and Federal political arenas to look after all, but with an emphasis on looking after the mature folk. Apparently there are more than 10 million people over the age of 50 in Australia. That's almost half of the population.
This is not a political notice or discussion - but just refer those of you who are not already aware of this new Party to their web site for a read
PLEASE try to avoid bringing this thread into a political rights and wrongs discussion of the various parties and policies of the governments, or it will be removed as per the rules of this Forum
I wonder why the 18 to 80 and over age group? Would probably get more members BUT it is really the over 50s that are affected the most.
Agree, ! Bruce and Bev, if it gets up and running with a sensible, common sense approach, to ALL matters, it could be worth considering giving support, Many people out there, from ALL Political persuasions Are fed up with todays circus !! I will certainly follow it with interest !!
Plain Truth said
08:34 PM Mar 6, 2015
This is not a mature age party. it is the same as the rest, 18 yrs to 80 yrs. the voting age starts at 18 same for all parties.just another political party
Bruce and Bev said
08:37 PM Mar 6, 2015
they are still waiting to get PayPal and a secure Bank payment site, but subs with be $30 a year or $50 for 3 years. I will be joining. The more people join, the more control us ordinary people can control its direction and ensure that not only matures get a fair deal, but our kids as well !!!!
I joined right at the inception, and have had nothing or read nothing that makes me feel we are getting some sort of nutter outfit or one the is extreme right or left - just for ordinary folk
rockylizard said
09:02 PM Mar 6, 2015
Gday...
Not as a political comment, or in anyway a solicitation on my part, I provide the attached advice/newsletter from the Mature Age Party issued at 4.02pm today (06 Mar 2015)
At last - a party without policies. Just trust me as I want to be a politician.
Bruce and Bev said
11:15 PM Mar 6, 2015
without seeming to defend them, they have only just set up and policies will be formulated by those who join the party and their State reps - better than having a few setting the policies for the rest of us surely?
madaboutled said
11:20 PM Mar 6, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
For those of us who are truly "grey" nomads, and are not already aware, there is a new political party just for us oldies (over 50).
Glad you clarified the age, I was reading at a glance and when I read "just for us oldies" I thought damn missed out again then saw (over 50) and there was a great sigh of relief.
-- Edited by madaboutled on Friday 6th of March 2015 11:21:24 PM
D and D said
11:22 PM Mar 6, 2015
Shouldn't this be in the "Just Joking" section?
Cowboy7307 said
04:53 AM Mar 7, 2015
Might be some other useless bugger wanting to make a big wage for not doing very much ,God we keep to many now
dorian said
07:38 AM Mar 7, 2015
hako wrote:
At last - a party without policies. Just trust me as I want to be a politician.
I've often wanted to see a political party that campaigned on the basis that they had no policies. Having a policy means that they have a selfish vision of what they believe is best for the rest of us rather than what we believe. Politicians need to remind themselves what being a Member of the House of Representatives really means. I don't want a leader, I want a representative. I'll do the thinking and they can do the representing. The very idea that politicians should be allowed a "conscience" vote makes me sick to the stomach. The only consideration for them should be whether their vote in parliament is in line with the expectations of their electorate. Otherwise their opinion should carry no more weight than a single ballot paper.
Bruce and Bev said
07:12 PM Mar 7, 2015
Right on the spot Dorian. Maybe if enough of us Nomads made representations to this new Party, they could make the issue of our right to free camp if we choose to do so.
Guys, don't just sit back and harp on and moan about politicians, heres your chance to actually influence what they do and their core values (including nomading) before others do - so email them and let them know that many of us mature folk are sick of State Govts and local councils/shires and want this changed as they get representatives on these various bodies
I am............but will I will be the lone voice????
blaze said
07:48 PM Mar 7, 2015
and we must remember that most forms of government are filled with members with the age bracket simular to the membership here
Me
well I think I would be more inclined to through my lot in with the younger lot (backpackers believe in free camping and most are uni educated) That aside, we have a lot of very clever youth about and they deserve a say in the way the future is shaped. We are all dinosaurs and has beens
cheers
blaze
Bruce and Bev said
08:46 PM Mar 7, 2015
ok............I give up - most of you are so negative about doing something to have real influence over our life style.
Blaze - you may think youre a dinosaur, but Im not !!!
Ive also got 2 Uni degrees but that doesn't mean Im more clever or smarter than others who left school at 15 for whatever reason. I suggest you support and vote for a party with a bunch of teens and see if their life experiences will benefit the country. And as others have pointed out the mature reps already in power belong to established parties and are required to follow the party line (not what they might think or what the voters in their electorate may want). Sorry Blaze - this is not a shot at you, but there seems to be total apathy amongst so many of you. Are you folks just waiting to die ???
blaze said
08:54 PM Mar 7, 2015
Hi Bruce
I am 54 years young and having the time of my life, I really enjoy spending my time with younger people, keeps me on my toes. Spent the last 4 and a bit years living full time on the road and 25 years prior to that running my own business. I have no riches but for the experiences of life and I feel there is no richer
If its going to be its upto me
cheers
blaze
rockylizard said
08:58 PM Mar 7, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
ok............I give up - most of you are so negative about doing something to have real influence over our life style.
~~~SNIP there seems to be total apathy amongst so many of you. ~~~SNIP
Gday...
Perhaps you haven't realised Bruce and Bev but apathy is what the general voting population has suffered for far too many decades.
That is why we get the politicians we do .. and the governments they form.
I do see there is some potential for the Mature Age Party - if it were for "mature age members" but 18 to 80 ?
That is pretty much the same as every other party. There are very many "mature age" people (over 50 shall we say) who are strong Lib or ALP or Green supporters/votes now. Do we expect them to put their long held 'preferences' behind them and go here.
Strength to their arm I say and let's see how they go ... and I have 'registered' with them ... only because I want to see how it "develops" - perhaps they will be "different" to any other group.
And do you really think ANY party will adequately 'represent' ALL of its members? I think Dorian said it best unfortunately - once elected, the party's policies become their focus, rather than what the membership may want.
Cheers - John
Bruce and Bev said
09:24 PM Mar 7, 2015
John......I agree with you, but heres a chance to actually influence a party just forming and pay more attention to those of us (matures) who have paid taxes and worked hard all our life. If enough of us join and make the right noises, then we can expect better representation that we get from other parties now. Obviously saying they represent 18-80 is just a catch cry, but I dobt many young people (under 40???) would vote for it with a name like The Mature Party.
BTW I have sent a PM to Blaze apologizing about my reaction to his comments. Uncalled for, but our current bunch of pollies get me hot under the collar and in WA, as a protest vote, we elected a guy who had pics on his Facebook page eating kangaroo **** amongst other things. I expect a little better than that.........if kangaroo droppings are your thing, at least remove the vid off your Facebook page during and after your successful election to the Federal Senate
elliemike said
11:06 AM Mar 8, 2015
The Ballot Paper does get longer at each General Election. Wonder if in future years we might be issued with something like a Bog Roll to put our Tick on.
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Webmaster said
12:35 PM Mar 8, 2015
Thanks everyone for your input. Interesting discussion, but as you know, we try to steer clear of politics on this forum. I think we'll close this down now.
For those of us who are truly "grey" nomads, and are not already aware, there is a new political party just for us oldies (over 50).
For details google "The Mature Age Party". This is not nutter party but has recently been set up to bring people in council/shire, State and Federal political arenas to look after all, but with an emphasis on looking after the mature folk. Apparently there are more than 10 million people over the age of 50 in Australia. That's almost half of the population.
This is not a political notice or discussion - but just refer those of you who are not already aware of this new Party to their web site for a read
PLEASE try to avoid bringing this thread into a political rights and wrongs discussion of the various parties and policies of the governments, or it will be removed as per the rules of this Forum
I wonder why the 18 to 80 and over age group? Would probably get more members BUT it is really the over 50s that are affected the most.
Aussie Paul.
http://us10.campaign-archive2.com/?u=2e4be9961d39c624efe748bcc&id=816c9309e0&e=b90a84716a
Agree, ! Bruce and Bev, if it gets up and running with a sensible, common sense approach, to ALL matters, it could be worth considering giving support, Many people out there, from ALL Political persuasions Are fed up with todays circus !! I will certainly follow it with interest !!
This is not a mature age party. it is the same as the rest, 18 yrs to 80 yrs. the voting age starts at 18 same for all parties.just another political party
I joined right at the inception, and have had nothing or read nothing that makes me feel we are getting some sort of nutter outfit or one the is extreme right or left - just for ordinary folk
Gday...
Not as a political comment, or in anyway a solicitation on my part, I provide the attached advice/newsletter from the Mature Age Party issued at 4.02pm today (06 Mar 2015)
Cheers - John
Glad you clarified the age, I was reading at a glance and when I read "just for us oldies" I thought damn missed out again then saw (over 50) and there was a great sigh of relief.
-- Edited by madaboutled on Friday 6th of March 2015 11:21:24 PM
I've often wanted to see a political party that campaigned on the basis that they had no policies. Having a policy means that they have a selfish vision of what they believe is best for the rest of us rather than what we believe. Politicians need to remind themselves what being a Member of the House of Representatives really means. I don't want a leader, I want a representative. I'll do the thinking and they can do the representing. The very idea that politicians should be allowed a "conscience" vote makes me sick to the stomach. The only consideration for them should be whether their vote in parliament is in line with the expectations of their electorate. Otherwise their opinion should carry no more weight than a single ballot paper.
Guys, don't just sit back and harp on and moan about politicians, heres your chance to actually influence what they do and their core values (including nomading) before others do - so email them and let them know that many of us mature folk are sick of State Govts and local councils/shires and want this changed as they get representatives on these various bodies
I am............but will I will be the lone voice????
Me
well I think I would be more inclined to through my lot in with the younger lot (backpackers believe in free camping and most are uni educated) That aside, we have a lot of very clever youth about and they deserve a say in the way the future is shaped. We are all dinosaurs and has beens
cheers
blaze
Blaze - you may think youre a dinosaur, but Im not !!!
Ive also got 2 Uni degrees but that doesn't mean Im more clever or smarter than others who left school at 15 for whatever reason. I suggest you support and vote for a party with a bunch of teens and see if their life experiences will benefit the country. And as others have pointed out the mature reps already in power belong to established parties and are required to follow the party line (not what they might think or what the voters in their electorate may want). Sorry Blaze - this is not a shot at you, but there seems to be total apathy amongst so many of you. Are you folks just waiting to die ???
I am 54 years young and having the time of my life, I really enjoy spending my time with younger people, keeps me on my toes. Spent the last 4 and a bit years living full time on the road and 25 years prior to that running my own business. I have no riches but for the experiences of life and I feel there is no richer
If its going to be its upto me
cheers
blaze
Gday...
Perhaps you haven't realised Bruce and Bev
but apathy is what the general voting population has suffered for far too many decades.
That is why we get the politicians we do .. and the governments they form.
I do see there is some potential for the Mature Age Party - if it were for "mature age members" but 18 to 80 ?
That is pretty much the same as every other party.
There are very many "mature age" people (over 50 shall we say) who are strong Lib or ALP or Green supporters/votes now. Do we expect them to put their long held 'preferences' behind them and go here.
Strength to their arm I say and let's see how they go ... and I have 'registered' with them ... only because I want to see how it "develops" - perhaps they will be "different" to any other group.
And do you really think ANY party will adequately 'represent' ALL of its members? I think Dorian said it best unfortunately - once elected, the party's policies become their focus, rather than what the membership may want.
Cheers - John
BTW I have sent a PM to Blaze apologizing about my reaction to his comments. Uncalled for, but our current bunch of pollies get me hot under the collar and in WA, as a protest vote, we elected a guy who had pics on his Facebook page eating kangaroo **** amongst other things. I expect a little better than that.........if kangaroo droppings are your thing, at least remove the vid off your Facebook page during and after your successful election to the Federal Senate
The Ballot Paper does get longer at each General Election. Wonder if in future years we might be issued with something like a Bog Roll to put our Tick on.
Parties registered for federal elections with the Australian Electoral Commission[edit]
Parties listed in alphabetical order:[3]
Thanks everyone for your input. Interesting discussion, but as you know, we try to steer clear of politics on this forum. I think we'll close this down now.