Robbie, at the risk of stating the obvious, I would imagine that the vehicle must have a garden variety Toyota engine that has been fitted to many Hiaces and therefore must have an Australian X-reference. Surely Toyota should be able to help as well as a mob such as Repco, Supercheap Auto.
Maybe if you could get the engine serial number that would be a start.
Larry
mcrobbie27 said
05:33 PM Feb 27, 2015
Hi Larry..
I have contacted a couple of Grey Import Companies and they are making enquiries using the VIN number..
So fingers crossed..
chopit said
05:41 PM Feb 27, 2015
We had a grey import Toyota Sera gullwing coupe a few years ago.
Mechanicals were all common to other models as put forward above.
When a headlight got broken in a smash ( another driver ran a red ) we had to order a 2nd hand one from New Zealand, apparently grey imports are common over there.
If all else fails look on the net for traders in NZ but I would be surprised if the engine wasn't common to some other Toyota product ( even forklifts ).
You may just need to find a parts shop that has staff that will look "outside the box".
Collo said
06:33 PM Feb 27, 2015
I not 100% sure... but I think I read somewhere, that motor vehicle manufactuers are only obliged to supply parts for twenty years.
As your vehicle is twenty seven years old...I suspect that is the reason you are having trouble getting parts. Maybe try auto wreckers.
The Doo crew said
07:09 PM Feb 27, 2015
Our Toad is a 1977 Daihatsu 4X4 with Toyota running gear from manufacture, most parts are available if you can find a Hilux model around the same year. Dr Google will answer most of your parts requirements grey or otherwise.
DeBe said
07:18 PM Feb 27, 2015
There will be parts available some where. First you need to find the compliance plate, every vehicle will have one. On it will be what Engine family (HD) & its size (1589cc). Heres a picture of a plate on my Daihatsu I have marked the data you need. I don't have trouble getting parts or gaskets for this vehicle, because other Daihatsu use the same Engine family. Toyotas are no diferent & there plate is very similar.
Thanks everyone for your feedback..
I think the plate says 2-CT...
Jaahn said
10:00 PM Feb 27, 2015
Hi,
Grey imports are a problem as the local genuine parts suppliers refuse on principle to have much to do with them. Bas*ards.
Here is a site I use for parts information. It did have the diagrams on it too but Toyota made them remove them. Bas*ards.
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/
You cannot buy stuff there but if you have a part number you can ask at a dealer for the number directly.
I did not think any Hiaces had a 2 CT diesel motor but they might have. Is it a Hiace or a Lightace or Townace or a Tarago ? You could find out on that site ! Or find the Manufacturers plate as DeBe said. Note it is not a compliance plate actually. There will be two plates, one a compliance plate for rego purposes and the manufacturers plate which identifies the vehicle and the mechanical items fitted to it and some other useful stuff. All Toyota's have one somewhere. It might be below the drivers seat hidden by a flap of upholstery.
I looked at the picture again and see it is a Lite Ace. It will be a 2 CT or 3 CT motor. The plate will be below the drivers seat under the flap. Note all the numbers on it as they are all useful. There are two types of these motors the upright type like yours and a "flat" type fitted to the imported Tarago's which are on their side. Not sure if the manifolds are the same but these engines are not as common or available as some other models. However there are places who will supply parts. Look on that site for a part number.
Cheers jaahn
-- Edited by Jaahn on Friday 27th of February 2015 10:10:29 PM
-- Edited by Jaahn on Friday 27th of February 2015 10:14:37 PM
DeBe said
10:13 PM Feb 27, 2015
Have to agree with Jaahn. These were only released in Japan & some in England. Gasket sets are available on Ebay from England.
Jaahn said
10:38 PM Feb 27, 2015
Hi,
This is the part number of the manifold. 17141-64141 It seems to fit all those engines
the gasket to the head is 17173-64080
Google those and see what happens. Or ask a Toyota dealer to look.
However if it is just cracked or simply broken it could be repaired by bronze welding it. I have done a few over the years by that method. An older tradesman would be able to do it. The younger people seem to have lost the art of bronze welding or think it is uncool or ??. Proper preparation is important too.
Jaahn
17141
MANIFOLD, EXHAUST
17141-64141
17173
GASKET, EXHAUST MANIFOLD TO HEAD
17173-64080
The Doo crew said
11:27 PM Feb 27, 2015
Of if the cost is too high see an exhaust shop for a set of extractors, sometimes cheaper to have fitted than replace a manifold.
Aus-Kiwi said
12:42 AM Feb 28, 2015
Go see Liverpool exhaust...
TIG welding has taken over these days..
Have to find out what family your engine is from?
Castle Hill toyota used to be grey import friendly..
Other than that . Get exhaust flange plate cut ..
Some steam pipe bends from Blackwoods and cut to size.
Weld make up your own manifold..
DeBe said
09:01 AM Feb 28, 2015
2-CT is a turbo motor, will extractors fit?
Jaahn said
06:43 PM Feb 28, 2015
DeBe wrote:
2-CT is a turbo motor, will extractors fit?
Hi DeBe,
Short answer - NO. Never seen any. You could get one custom made at some cost possibly. Why bother ?
I know that other newer methods of welding are being used for other uses, but I know that bronze welding works and have seen 'experts' use the newer methods and it not be as successful over time in this application. IMHO after a lot of years in repair and maintenance. Use oxy, tig or even mig if you like just so long as the tradesperson is competent and experienced.
The 2 CT is the family type.
Cheers jaahn.
-- Edited by Jaahn on Saturday 28th of February 2015 06:45:32 PM
Aus-Kiwi said
01:26 AM Mar 1, 2015
I make my own turbo manifolds .. Why I have all the welding gear.. Steam pipe doesn't crack..
high temp silicon works on turbo manifold as long as they are not warped..
make sure outer holes are elongated or large enough to take any expansion or manifold will warp..
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 1st of March 2015 01:40:07 AM
mcrobbie27 said
07:32 PM Mar 1, 2015
Where is your business Aus-Kiwi??
HiAce98 said
12:11 PM Mar 3, 2015
I have a 1998 4x4 Grey import HiAce and sadly there is much about it that is NOT the same as the standard 4x2. I had to get a new front diff - luckily at the time I was still working - I tried Toyodiy, and the dealer I bought the van from, and every wrecker anyone suggested, but no luck. I've been using the same mechanic to care for my vehicles for 6 years, and he ended up sending the old diff to Melbourne to be re-lapped, and it cost less than ordering a replacement from Japan. Unfortunately there was much to disassemble to reach the diff, and disturbing the PLASTIC original radiator meant I had to have that replaced too. The mechanic had a metal one made here in Au and that was also cheaper and faster than getting one from Japan.
Having pointed out the BAD things, I must say that overall I am very happy with the van, especially when I drive into places where other HiAces have parked back up the track and the people had to walk in. Which is good for me 'cos I don't walk so well anymore
And let's face it, the more of these that are imported to Au the more there will be spares available. When I bought a Landcruiser in 1970 all my friends said "you should have bought a Landrover because parts for the Cruiser are so hard to get"!
Hi Greys...
I have been a member of Grey Nomads since the website first started..
I have purchased a Toyota 1992 Hiace 4X4.
Imported as a Campervan.
The van has been so hard to get parts for..
Can anyone help me I live in the Sydney area.
Currently looking for Exhaust Manifold & Gasket..
Maybe if you could get the engine serial number that would be a start.
Larry
Hi Larry..
I have contacted a couple of Grey Import Companies and they are making enquiries using the VIN number..
So fingers crossed..
Mechanicals were all common to other models as put forward above.
When a headlight got broken in a smash ( another driver ran a red ) we had to order a 2nd hand one from New Zealand, apparently grey imports are common over there.
If all else fails look on the net for traders in NZ but I would be surprised if the engine wasn't common to some other Toyota product ( even forklifts ).
You may just need to find a parts shop that has staff that will look "outside the box".
I not 100% sure... but I think I read somewhere, that motor vehicle manufactuers are only obliged to supply parts for twenty years.
As your vehicle is twenty seven years old...I suspect that is the reason you are having trouble getting parts. Maybe try auto wreckers.
There will be parts available some where. First you need to find the compliance plate, every vehicle will have one. On it will be what Engine family (HD) & its size (1589cc). Heres a picture of a plate on my Daihatsu I have marked the data you need. I don't have trouble getting parts or gaskets for this vehicle, because other Daihatsu
use the same Engine family. Toyotas are no diferent & there plate is very similar.
Hi,
Grey imports are a problem as the local genuine parts suppliers refuse on principle to have much to do with them. Bas*ards.
Here is a site I use for parts information. It did have the diagrams on it too but Toyota made them remove them. Bas*ards.
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/
You cannot buy stuff there but if you have a part number you can ask at a dealer for the number directly.
I did not think any Hiaces had a 2 CT diesel motor but they might have. Is it a Hiace or a Lightace or Townace or a Tarago ? You could find out on that site ! Or find the Manufacturers plate as DeBe said. Note it is not a compliance plate actually. There will be two plates, one a compliance plate for rego purposes and the manufacturers plate which identifies the vehicle and the mechanical items fitted to it and some other useful stuff. All Toyota's have one somewhere. It might be below the drivers seat hidden by a flap of upholstery.
I looked at the picture again and see it is a Lite Ace. It will be a 2 CT or 3 CT motor. The plate will be below the drivers seat under the flap. Note all the numbers on it as they are all useful. There are two types of these motors the upright type like yours and a "flat" type fitted to the imported Tarago's which are on their side. Not sure if the manifolds are the same but these engines are not as common or available as some other models. However there are places who will supply parts. Look on that site for a part number.
Cheers jaahn
-- Edited by Jaahn on Friday 27th of February 2015 10:10:29 PM
-- Edited by Jaahn on Friday 27th of February 2015 10:14:37 PM
Have to agree with Jaahn. These were only released in Japan & some in England. Gasket sets are available on Ebay from England.
Hi,
This is the part number of the manifold. 17141-64141 It seems to fit all those engines
the gasket to the head is 17173-64080
Google those and see what happens. Or ask a Toyota dealer to look.
However if it is just cracked or simply broken it could be repaired by bronze welding it. I have done a few over the years by that method. An older tradesman would be able to do it. The younger people seem to have lost the art of bronze welding or think it is uncool or ??. Proper preparation is important too.
Jaahn
TIG welding has taken over these days..
Have to find out what family your engine is from?
Castle Hill toyota used to be grey import friendly..
Other than that . Get exhaust flange plate cut ..
Some steam pipe bends from Blackwoods and cut to size.
Weld make up your own manifold..
2-CT is a turbo motor, will extractors fit?
Hi DeBe,
Short answer - NO. Never seen any. You could get one custom made at some cost possibly.
Why bother ?
I know that other newer methods of welding are being used for other uses, but I know that bronze welding works and have seen 'experts' use the newer methods and it not be as successful over time in this application. IMHO after a lot of years in repair and maintenance. Use oxy, tig or even mig if you like just so long as the tradesperson is competent and experienced.
The 2 CT is the family type.
Cheers jaahn.
-- Edited by Jaahn on Saturday 28th of February 2015 06:45:32 PM
I make my own turbo manifolds .. Why I have all the welding gear..
Steam pipe doesn't crack..
high temp silicon works on turbo manifold as long as they are not warped..
make sure outer holes are elongated or large enough to take any expansion or manifold will warp..
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 1st of March 2015 01:40:07 AM
I have a 1998 4x4 Grey import HiAce and sadly there is much about it that is NOT the same as the standard 4x2. I had to get a new front diff - luckily at the time I was still working - I tried Toyodiy, and the dealer I bought the van from, and every wrecker anyone suggested, but no luck. I've been using the same mechanic to care for my vehicles for 6 years, and he ended up sending the old diff to Melbourne to be re-lapped, and it cost less than ordering a replacement from Japan. Unfortunately there was much to disassemble to reach the diff, and disturbing the PLASTIC original radiator meant I had to have that replaced too. The mechanic had a metal one made here in Au and that was also cheaper and faster than getting one from Japan.
Having pointed out the BAD things, I must say that overall I am very happy with the van, especially when I drive into places where other HiAces have parked back up the track and the people had to walk in. Which is good for me 'cos I don't walk so well anymore
And let's face it, the more of these that are imported to Au the more there will be spares available. When I bought a Landcruiser in 1970 all my friends said "you should have bought a Landrover because parts for the Cruiser are so hard to get"!
Thanks Jaahn.
Yes it is a 2-CT Toyota Liteace.
It is a Manifold Gasket I am after..
Hi Aus-Kiwi..
I need a Manifold Gasket