Now that the G20 is over ,and the chinese have a free trade agreement with us Will there be a big land sale going on.
Peter_n_Margaret said
10:57 AM Nov 18, 2014
A free trade agreement and non Australians being able to buy land are not related issues.
Foreign ownership of land in Australia has always been possible.
Cheers,
Peter
cruisaderhilton said
11:25 AM Nov 18, 2014
Yes peter &Margaret you are rite there has been free trade , but it has just been made a hell of a lot easier ,Poor farmers out there doing it tough will be open for forein investment ,and you cant blame them for taking any offers large or small.Who will benefit the most,Australia I don't thinkso.
rockylizard said
11:27 AM Nov 18, 2014
Gday...
In fact a "Free Trade Agreement" (FTA) is a misnomer.
It definitely does not allow the "free trade" of anything - just some identification of various commodities/products/services that will be accepted between the signatory countries.
Assists both countries - but as the signatories to the "Agreement" state - negotiation means you get some things you wanted but you also do not get other things you also wanted. Hopefully Straya at least will get SOMETHING we wanted.
Cheers - John
rockylizard said
11:32 AM Nov 18, 2014
cruisaderhilton wrote:
Yes peter &Margaret you are rite there has been free trade , but it has just been made a hell of a lot easier ,Poor farmers out there doing it tough will be open for foreign investment ,and you cant blame them for taking any offers large or small.Who will benefit the most,Australia I don't thinkso.
Gday...
The so called "Free Trade Agreement" (FTA) (misnomer) does not include anything to do with foreign investment into Strayan property - farms, businesses, houses, or apartments.
From initial information "the farmers doing it tough" - well, some of the luckier ones - will have access to 20% (I think) of the overall FTA.
Cheers - John
rockylizard said
11:38 AM Nov 18, 2014
Gday...
For those interested, here are the Key Outcomes of the China-Australia FTA -
They do indeed have a fledgling industry over there. Won't be long they'll flood in for a fraction of the cost we're used to.
Was it The Great Australian Doorstep yes it was... they did a show in China.
kiwijims said
02:48 AM Nov 19, 2014
If the Chinese caravans are anything like the motor homes they are trying to flog here at the moment, they have a long way to go if quality counts.
K.J.
sandsmere said
06:09 AM Nov 19, 2014
kiwijims wrote:
If the Chinese caravans are anything like the motor homes they are trying to flog here at the moment, they have a long way to go if quality counts.
K.J.
A La Great Wall vehicles.
dorian said
06:38 AM Nov 19, 2014
I'd like to know how the local manufacturers justify their outlandish prices. Why does a motorhome cost as much as a house, or even more?
Peter_n_Margaret said
11:16 AM Nov 19, 2014
dorian wrote:
I'd like to know how the local manufacturers justify their outlandish prices. Why does a motorhome cost as much as a house, or even more?
Because all Australian workers insist on very high wages to maintain their very high standard of living.
The cost of doing business in this country is very high. High prices are a direct consequence.
Cheers,
Peter
dorian said
12:00 PM Nov 19, 2014
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
dorian wrote:
I'd like to know how the local manufacturers justify their outlandish prices. Why does a motorhome cost as much as a house, or even more?
Because all Australian workers insist on very high wages to maintain their very high standard of living.
The cost of doing business in this country is very high. High prices are a direct consequence.
Your explanation would be valid if I were comparing the cost of an Australian built motorhome against a Chinese built house, but I'm not.
hako said
08:10 PM Nov 19, 2014
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Because all Australian workers insist on very high wages to maintain their very high standard of living.
The cost of doing business in this country is very high. High prices are a direct consequence.
Cheers,
Peter
Don't blame the workers Peter, it goes all the way to the CEO. Pretty soon we'll just be getting a bowl of rice a day. The upside is that it will solve Australia's obesity problem.
Regards
tonyd said
12:59 AM Nov 20, 2014
Just wait until you start paying $5 for a litre of milk, then the free trade won't seem so free. Even Hockey has admitted that food prices in Oz will rise.
Tony
-- Edited by tonyd on Thursday 20th of November 2014 12:59:58 AM
peterblack said
06:39 AM Nov 20, 2014
hi all. really its free trade for china and we will pay the price in the end.
just so abbutts can get on tv????
enjoy
rockylizard said
08:15 AM Nov 20, 2014
Gday...
Whether any FTA is advantageous or disadvantageous is really immaterial.
The FTA with China began under John Howard, continued through Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd and has been finalised by Mr Rabbit.
FTAs are pretty bipartisan really and are seen as improving our export potential overall - and our import situation as well.
Cheers - John
Happy Camper said
01:42 PM Nov 23, 2014
Lets hope the FTA benefits flow through to "All Australians" and not just the Multi Nationals who minimise their tax obligations through tax havens.
Foreign ownership of land in Australia has always been possible.
Cheers,
Peter
Yes peter &Margaret you are rite there has been free trade , but it has just been made a hell of a lot easier ,Poor farmers out there doing it tough will be open for forein investment ,and you cant blame them for taking any offers large or small.Who will benefit the most,Australia I don't thinkso.
Gday...
In fact a "Free Trade Agreement" (FTA) is a misnomer.
It definitely does not allow the "free trade" of anything - just some identification of various commodities/products/services that will be accepted between the signatory countries.
Assists both countries - but as the signatories to the "Agreement" state - negotiation means you get some things you wanted but you also do not get other things you also wanted. Hopefully Straya at least will get SOMETHING we wanted.
Cheers - John
Gday...
The so called "Free Trade Agreement" (FTA) (misnomer) does not include anything to do with foreign investment into Strayan property - farms, businesses, houses, or apartments.
From initial information "the farmers doing it tough" - well, some of the luckier ones - will have access to 20% (I think) of the overall FTA.
Cheers - John
Gday...
For those interested, here are the Key Outcomes of the China-Australia FTA -
http://dfat.gov.au/fta/chafta/fact-sheets/key-outcomes.html
Cheers - John
Sorry to all concerned ,will keep my oppinions (spelling) to my self .I may have gone off on the wrong track
-- Edited by cruisaderhilton on Tuesday 18th of November 2014 12:09:56 PM
Do they have caravans or Motor-homes in China??
Gday...
http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/content/news/caravans/crazy-prices-for-chinese-vans-41837
http://www.made-in-china.com/products-search/hot-china-products/Caravan.html
http://motorhome-china.com/report_4RV.html
http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/chinese-camper-could-replace-kombi-20100423-ti1x.html
Cheers - John
Was it The Great Australian Doorstep yes it was... they did a show in China.
If the Chinese caravans are anything like the motor homes they are trying to flog here at the moment, they have a long way to go if quality counts.
K.J.
A La Great Wall vehicles.
Because all Australian workers insist on very high wages to maintain their very high standard of living.
The cost of doing business in this country is very high. High prices are a direct consequence.
Cheers,
Peter
Your explanation would be valid if I were comparing the cost of an Australian built motorhome against a Chinese built house, but I'm not.
Don't blame the workers Peter, it goes all the way to the CEO. Pretty soon we'll just be getting a bowl of rice a day. The upside is that it will solve Australia's obesity problem.
Regards
Just wait until you start paying $5 for a litre of milk, then the free trade won't seem so free. Even Hockey has admitted that food prices in Oz will rise.
Tony
-- Edited by tonyd on Thursday 20th of November 2014 12:59:58 AM
just so abbutts can get on tv????
enjoy
Gday...
Whether any FTA is advantageous or disadvantageous is really immaterial.
The FTA with China began under John Howard, continued through Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd and has been finalised by Mr Rabbit.
FTAs are pretty bipartisan really and are seen as improving our export potential overall - and our import situation as well.
Cheers - John
Lets hope the FTA benefits flow through to "All Australians" and not just the Multi Nationals who minimise their tax obligations through tax havens.