I am after advice on what generator to get I already have a yamaha silent version emf3000 but it will not run the airco, it is a bit old so might need looking at, but I am wondering what other people are using.
Cheers Andrew
Phil C said
10:39 AM Nov 9, 2014
Hi Crashtac
Welcome to the playground
The way they rate most generators is in VA or voltamps, this is a trigonometric function (the hypotenuse) of AC power. 3000VA should be enough to run the aircon as it mostly draws about 10 amps at normal .8 power factor.
We have a honda 2000VA ultra quiet genny, they are expensive but worth every cent. It handles our aicon (aircommand ibis) However its main use is to charge the batteries on a dull (not good for solar day).
If you are using your genny all the time, I suggest you get a genny of the same as your old one at least 3000VA, thats about 2600W in usable power (10 and a bit amps).
Bottom line without the technical jibber jabber, new genny should be 2000VA at least.
Be good
villatranquilla said
12:25 PM Nov 9, 2014
What brand of Aircon. Our Honda 2.0 ran the Air Command Ibis but will not run the Dometic in our current van - grrrr
Plendo said
04:32 PM Nov 9, 2014
Andrew,
given that your Yamaha (also a good respected brand) will not run your Air Con, makes it sound as if your air con is especially heavy on power. It may be that your air con may need some attention, or maybe the addition of a soft start option.
Most roof top airconditioners are not very efficient anyway, and they typically need a large amount of current for a short period to start the compressor. The new Air Command Ibis is supposed to be good, and from what I have read here the older units, particularly Dometics appear to have problem when running from either a generator or an inverter.
I would suggest finding a generator sales outlet that will let you take your van there, and try it before you buy it.
Phil C said
05:43 PM Nov 9, 2014
We have the Ibis as well, works OK from our 2000VA genny so Im guessing the same as Plendo.
Cheers
SnowT said
08:27 PM Nov 9, 2014
Make sure you DO NOT have the Hot water service on at the same time as the Air Con..
check that before you go out and buy a new Gennie....
Is all the advice I'm going to say....
I'm Anti Gennie's ....
I hate the Sound and the smells they give off..
Juergen
PeterD said
09:05 PM Nov 9, 2014
Is this the model you have? It has a rated output of 2.8 KVA. If that will not run your aircon then I doubt that any of the others that vanners commonly carry will not do the job. You will have to get a bigger one that will not be particularly portable.
Aus-Kiwi said
01:51 PM Nov 10, 2014
Thought of larger unit installed ? Semi permanently ? The price of that Yamaha is getting near a Onan generator ..
aussie_paul said
01:57 PM Nov 10, 2014
SnowT wrote:
Make sure you DO NOT have the Hot water service on at the same time as the Air Con..
check that before you go out and buy a new Gennie....
Is all the advice I'm going to say....
I'm Anti Gennie's ....
I hate the Sound and the smells they give off..
Juergen
Yes Juergen, I made that mistake trying to get my coffee machine and heater to operate at the same time!!!Then it came good. The hws reached temp and cut out!!!The dumb things I have done!!
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Monday 10th of November 2014 02:16:22 PM
Crashtac said
06:46 AM Nov 12, 2014
PeterD wrote:
Is this the model you have? It has a rated output of 2.8 KVA. If that will not run your aircon then I doubt that any of the others that vanners commonly carry will not do the job. You will have to get a bigger one that will not be particularly portable.
G'Day Peter thanks for the reply, yes that is the generator I have, I am thinking it may be a problem with it, so I am going to find some place that can test it, I bought it second hand and it had had a lot of work so maybe it needs a service.
I actually am not sure of the make of our aircon, our van is a 2013 Jayco Sterling and we have only done one small trip since we bought it last year, I have to say I am not really happy with Jayco and definately will never go to Gawler Caravans for work again after it took aver 3 months for them to do some insurance and warrenty work on our van which they never completed anyway.
Anyway oops for that back to subject, as I said I am thinking it may just be a gen fault when I first bought it it would run my small gasless mig if I used it in short loads now it wont and the engine does not increase revs up to a high idle so in for a service it will go.
Cheers and thanks Andrew
PeterD said
11:54 AM Nov 15, 2014
Crashtac wrote:I actually am not sure of the make of our aircon, our van is a 2013 Jayco Sterling and we have only done one small trip since we bought it last year,
You should have received a handbook for all the PC items in the van. If you are missing the handbook for any item like your aircon that needs servicing then go back to the dealer and request them (unless it is a second-hand unit and the previous owners threw them away.)
I am after advice on what generator to get I already have a yamaha silent version emf3000 but it will not run the airco, it is a bit old so might need looking at, but I am wondering what other people are using.
Cheers Andrew
Welcome to the playground
The way they rate most generators is in VA or voltamps, this is a trigonometric function (the hypotenuse) of AC power. 3000VA should be enough to run the aircon as it mostly draws about 10 amps at normal .8 power factor.
We have a honda 2000VA ultra quiet genny, they are expensive but worth every cent. It handles our aicon (aircommand ibis) However its main use is to charge the batteries on a dull (not good for solar day).
If you are using your genny all the time, I suggest you get a genny of the same as your old one at least 3000VA, thats about 2600W in usable power (10 and a bit amps).
Bottom line without the technical jibber jabber, new genny should be 2000VA at least.
Be good
Andrew,
given that your Yamaha (also a good respected brand) will not run your Air Con, makes it sound as if your air con is especially heavy on power. It may be that your air con may need some attention, or maybe the addition of a soft start option.
Most roof top airconditioners are not very efficient anyway, and they typically need a large amount of current for a short period to start the compressor. The new Air Command Ibis is supposed to be good, and from what I have read here the older units, particularly Dometics appear to have problem when running from either a generator or an inverter.
I would suggest finding a generator sales outlet that will let you take your van there, and try it before you buy it.
Cheers
check that before you go out and buy a new Gennie....
Is all the advice I'm going to say....
I'm Anti Gennie's ....
I hate the Sound and the smells they give off..
Juergen
Is this the model you have? It has a rated output of 2.8 KVA. If that will not run your aircon then I doubt that any of the others that vanners commonly carry will not do the job. You will have to get a bigger one that will not be particularly portable.
Yes Juergen, I made that mistake trying to get my coffee machine and heater to operate at the same time!!! Then it came good. The hws reached temp and cut out!!! The dumb things I have done!!
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Monday 10th of November 2014 02:16:22 PM
G'Day Peter thanks for the reply, yes that is the generator I have, I am thinking it may be a problem with it, so I am going to find some place that can test it, I bought it second hand and it had had a lot of work so maybe it needs a service.
I actually am not sure of the make of our aircon, our van is a 2013 Jayco Sterling and we have only done one small trip since we bought it last year, I have to say I am not really happy with Jayco and definately will never go to Gawler Caravans for work again after it took aver 3 months for them to do some insurance and warrenty work on our van which they never completed anyway.
Anyway oops for that back to subject, as I said I am thinking it may just be a gen fault when I first bought it it would run my small gasless mig if I used it in short loads now it wont and the engine does not increase revs up to a high idle so in for a service it will go.
Cheers and thanks Andrew
You should have received a handbook for all the PC items in the van. If you are missing the handbook for any item like your aircon that needs servicing then go back to the dealer and request them (unless it is a second-hand unit and the previous owners threw them away.)