Apples, and fruit in general, is not what it used to be - Pink Ladies used to be so crisp and crunchy, now often they are powdery and tasteless, same with mandarins, little things with thin skins, so hard to peel.
rockylizard said
07:50 AM Nov 7, 2014
jules47 wrote:
Apples, and fruit in general, is not what it used to be - Pink Ladies used to be so crisp and crunchy, now often they are powdery and tasteless, same with mandarins, little things with thin skins, so hard to peel.
Gday...
HMMMMMM .... you talking to me Jule
Cheers - John
dorian said
07:51 AM Nov 7, 2014
I have my own complaints against Coles, but ISTM that they are between a rock and a hard place.
The supermarket giant also revealed the bulk of its apples sold across Australia were harvested in Tasmania over two months in autumn. It preferred selling "fresh" Australian apples all year round in a bid to support domestic growers.
If consumers were to insist on truly fresh apples, then Coles would have to import them. That would upset the growers.
rockylizard said
08:03 AM Nov 7, 2014
Gday...
Valid point Dorian.
However, which came first ... the chicken or the egg ??
Did the consumer insist on having fresh fruit all year round, irrespective of what was in season, or did the supermarkets begin buying/transporting/stocking locally out of season fruit and veg to 'attract' customers.
It is perhaps a moot point now anyway. It has happened.
Just as customers think milk comes from cartons, meat comes in gladwrap in a fridge, cotton comes from an animal ... people now think that apples etc are always available year round - and of course they are fresh.
Perhaps just another example of how many of us are out of touch.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Friday 7th of November 2014 11:20:21 AM
GaryKelly said
12:34 PM Nov 7, 2014
Now I'm gonna hafta do a Google to find out where milk and meat and cotton comes from.
johnq said
04:31 PM Nov 7, 2014
Maybe the same test should be applied to the misuse of words to misrepresent and create a whole new language of emotionally charged words to belt us all with.
For example, once it was a very positive to earn the compliment of being described as discriminating, implying as it does that one was exhibiting refined taste or good judgement.
Then along came some activist, or was that a slack reporter, to murder English and have it imply something very negative that it never meant at all.
Compared with what we encounter daily on the ABC, particularly Q&A, where ordinary English words come to have a different meaning entirely, I'd say that Coles is a minor player in the 'deliberate intention to mislead' stakes. There are senior humanities academics, mainly sociologists, who appear on TV and in print who would have to be the very worst offenders for the most dreadful misuse of English and to suit some secondary agenda. What they do to statistics is even more offensive and wrong, a crime against mathematics.
Not criticising your post Rocky and I don't buy anything but Batlow apples because I don't like the fodder for the Japanese market.
Jenzarl said
09:31 AM Nov 8, 2014
When I was in Victoria last Autumn I visited my niece who's husband is a refrigeration mechanic.
They live in Shepparton and a lot of his work is with the farmers with the big cold stores.
He was telling me that a lot of the farmers are developing Cold Rooms that regulated the atmosphere around the fruit, They keep the oxygen down to a very low percentage.
He says it ithe oxygen that creates spoilage and that by taking out nearly all the oxygen the fruit will be as fresh as when picked hence they can sell it as fresh fruit
Mind you it it is going to be a big problem to educate their customers as to what they are doing because we are all so distrustful.
I Believe Mark and what he is telling me and that he would not be involved it their was anything "Sus" with this, BUT I don't trust the big companies and advertising agencies to be upfront with the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Unfortunately they they see dollar signs before ethics
Gday...
http://www.smh.com.au/business/coles-in-fresh-trouble-again-over-tasmanian-pink-lady-apple-claims-20141106-11hyo2.html
Cheers - John
Gday...
HMMMMMM .... you talking to me Jule
Cheers - John
I have my own complaints against Coles, but ISTM that they are between a rock and a hard place.
If consumers were to insist on truly fresh apples, then Coles would have to import them. That would upset the growers.
Gday...
Valid point Dorian.
However, which came first ... the chicken or the egg ??
Did the consumer insist on having fresh fruit all year round, irrespective of what was in season, or did the supermarkets begin buying/transporting/stocking locally out of season fruit and veg to 'attract' customers.
It is perhaps a moot point now anyway. It has happened.
Just as customers think milk comes from cartons, meat comes in gladwrap in a fridge, cotton comes from an animal ... people now think that apples etc are always available year round - and of course they are fresh.
Perhaps just another example of how many of us are out of touch.
Cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Friday 7th of November 2014 11:20:21 AM
Maybe the same test should be applied to the misuse of words to misrepresent and create a whole new language of emotionally charged words to belt us all with.
For example, once it was a very positive to earn the compliment of being described as discriminating, implying as it does that one was exhibiting refined taste or good judgement.
Then along came some activist, or was that a slack reporter, to murder English and have it imply something very negative that it never meant at all.
Also,
http://knowinglyundersold.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/outrage-over-the-flintstones-gay-old-time/
Compared with what we encounter daily on the ABC, particularly Q&A, where ordinary English words come to have a different meaning entirely, I'd say that Coles is a minor player in the 'deliberate intention to mislead' stakes. There are senior humanities academics, mainly sociologists, who appear on TV and in print who would have to be the very worst offenders for the most dreadful misuse of English and to suit some secondary agenda. What they do to statistics is even more offensive and wrong, a crime against mathematics.
Not criticising your post Rocky and I don't buy anything but Batlow apples because I don't like the fodder for the Japanese market.
When I was in Victoria last Autumn I visited my niece who's husband is a refrigeration mechanic.
They live in Shepparton and a lot of his work is with the farmers with the big cold stores.
He was telling me that a lot of the farmers are developing Cold Rooms that regulated the atmosphere around the fruit, They keep the oxygen down to a very low percentage.
He says it ithe oxygen that creates spoilage and that by taking out nearly all the oxygen the fruit will be as fresh as when picked hence they can sell it as fresh fruit
Mind you it it is going to be a big problem to educate their customers as to what they are doing because we are all so distrustful.
I Believe Mark and what he is telling me and that he would not be involved it their was anything "Sus" with this, BUT I don't trust the big companies and advertising agencies to be upfront with the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Unfortunately they they see dollar signs before ethics