My friends, the Smiths, have the Yabby Farm at Esperance WA. Things have been tough and on our stop there last year, I told them about Wikicamps. I set them up on Wikicamps as they had little knowledge of the RV life.
Since then they have spent money putting in two toilets and limited power in order to be able to take a maximum of 4 RVs per night. This supplements their yabby farm.
But the council received information on their business and has just given them notice to close down within 4 weeks. Regardless of Christmas/summer bookings and the fact that the council owns a local caravan park.
I am asking anyone interested in freedom of choice to contact the council and let them know your thoughts.
Firstly, welcome to the Forum. I note this is your first Post. Starting up a business without Council approval is a big risk. Is it possible they could make an Application to Council for approval of their business. They may need to employ a Town Planning professional to make the Application on their behalf to ensure the business complies with all the requirements (RED TAPE)
Perhaps if they make the Application they could keep operating whilst a decision is pending.
I don't think an e-mail to the Mayor asking that he give these people a fair go is going to work.....
glenrod said
04:14 PM Nov 2, 2014
Bungendore wrote:
My friends, the Smiths, have the Yabby Farm at Esperance WA. Things have been tough and on our stop there last year, I told them about Wikicamps. I set them up on Wikicamps as they had little knowledge of the RV life.
Since then they have spent money putting in two toilets and limited power in order to be able to take a maximum of 4 RVs per night. This supplements their yabby farm.
But the council received information on their business and has just given them notice to close down within 4 weeks. Regardless of Christmas/summer bookings and the fact that the council owns a local caravan park.
I am asking anyone interested in freedom of choice to contact the council and let them know your thoughts.
I certainly applaud your friends for having a bit of initiative and trying to do something to help themselves rather than sticking their hand out when things get tough.
If it was me looking for a small park like they have I would be happy to give them my custom.
Having said all that may I ask if they went through the procedure of contacting the local shire and getting approval before laying out their cash?
Cheers
Rod
Big G beat me to it...lol
-- Edited by glenrod on Sunday 2nd of November 2014 04:16:17 PM
Cloak said
05:41 PM Nov 2, 2014
So why is customer parking a problem for the council... I'm sure their position could be challenged.
Just saying.
jules47 said
06:29 PM Nov 2, 2014
Good words there Cloak!!!! Might be worth a try - there is a chocolate shop in Echuca that also has white chocolate port available (yummy) - you pay for the port, but you MUST take a chocolate, to cover them.
Maybe, each stayer gets yabbies during their stay, and pay for the yabbies, and stay for free!!!!
The Bear said
06:58 PM Nov 2, 2014
Love Jules comment!!!!! there is always away around council WISDOM
bear
glenrod said
09:14 PM Nov 2, 2014
Here we go again. If the bloke next door put up a good sized shed and started a panel beating business without council approval who would be your first call to. Ghost Busters, The Easter Bunny?
Unlikely, you would on the dog and bone to council in a flash but if they follow their own rules and requirements for everyone to play by their rules they are in the wrong and a way around those rules should be concocted.
Golddetectornomad said
09:32 PM Nov 2, 2014
Have they asked the Council what their requirements are to allow them to comply?...It may be an Insurance/Public Liability issue, or a Zoning issue, or the old chestnut that Councils used to resort to first ...lack of suitable ablution/septic services, however this has been largely nullified by Fully Self Contained including grey water Motor Homes....so they will invariably have other issues......it may be that any application requires notification to all nearby stake holders to allow them to object which they invariably do.......are the roads sealed?...will they seize on a dust problem?....
This is precisely what Landholders throughout Australia face to try and satisfy the Grey Nomad obvious demand...it needs to be challenged and a Local Government precedent set.....but who will take the first possibly costly step?....Caravan Associations?...Individuals?..or some entrepreneurial group who can see the benefits to all by presenting an application that satisfies Council's stated regulations/requirements....that's when you find out if it is a hidden agenda of self interests causing objection on monetary grounds....
I hope they take this further but it will likely require the services of a professional Planning/Zoning Consultant to ascertain their exact objections because they are not easily fobbed off when they <the Consultants> are working for you..I've used Planning Consultants in my past life and they are well worth the money.....good luck....Hoo Roo
-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Sunday 2nd of November 2014 09:41:07 PM
My friends, the Smiths, have the Yabby Farm at Esperance WA. Things have been tough and on our stop there last year, I told them about Wikicamps. I set them up on Wikicamps as they had little knowledge of the RV life.
Since then they have spent money putting in two toilets and limited power in order to be able to take a maximum of 4 RVs per night. This supplements their yabby farm.
But the council received information on their business and has just given them notice to close down within 4 weeks. Regardless of Christmas/summer bookings and the fact that the council owns a local caravan park.
I am asking anyone interested in freedom of choice to contact the council and let them know your thoughts.
Esperance Mayor: Malcolm.Heasman@esperance.wa.gov.au
Council: shire@esperance.wa.gov.au
Yabby Farm: yabbies@wn.com.au
Thank you for your support.
Firstly, welcome to the Forum. I note this is your first Post. Starting up a business without Council approval is a big risk. Is it possible they could make an Application to Council for approval of their business. They may need to employ a Town Planning professional to make the Application on their behalf to ensure the business complies with all the requirements (RED TAPE)
Perhaps if they make the Application they could keep operating whilst a decision is pending.
I don't think an e-mail to the Mayor asking that he give these people a fair go is going to work.....
-- Edited by glenrod on Sunday 2nd of November 2014 04:16:17 PM
Just saying.
Maybe, each stayer gets yabbies during their stay, and pay for the yabbies, and stay for free!!!!
bear
Here we go again. If the bloke next door put up a good sized shed and started a panel beating business without council approval who would be your first call to. Ghost Busters, The Easter Bunny?
Unlikely, you would on the dog and bone to council in a flash but if they follow their own rules and requirements for everyone to play by their rules they are in the wrong and a way around those rules should be concocted.
Have they asked the Council what their requirements are to allow them to comply?...It may be an Insurance/Public Liability issue, or a Zoning issue, or the old chestnut that Councils used to resort to first ...lack of suitable ablution/septic services, however this has been largely nullified by Fully Self Contained including grey water Motor Homes....so they will invariably have other issues......it may be that any application requires notification to all nearby stake holders to allow them to object which they invariably do.......are the roads sealed?...will they seize on a dust problem?....
This is precisely what Landholders throughout Australia face to try and satisfy the Grey Nomad obvious demand...it needs to be challenged and a Local Government precedent set.....but who will take the first possibly costly step?....Caravan Associations?...Individuals?..or some entrepreneurial group who can see the benefits to all by presenting an application that satisfies Council's stated regulations/requirements....that's when you find out if it is a hidden agenda of self interests causing objection on monetary grounds....
I hope they take this further but it will likely require the services of a professional Planning/Zoning Consultant to ascertain their exact objections because they are not easily fobbed off when they <the Consultants> are working for you..I've used Planning Consultants in my past life and they are well worth the money.....good luck....Hoo Roo
-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Sunday 2nd of November 2014 09:41:07 PM