I tested the Breaksafe battery and it is low. Found the paperwork and it should charge from car. Connected 12 pin plug, started vehicle, and no charge light!!! At the moment I have connected the load terminals of the solar regulator to the external charging terminals on the Breaksafe unit, and charge light shines. Next will be to apply 12 volts to the heavier black wire, pin 2, in the van 12 pin plug and see if that shows it charging.
Ok found it is the heavier black wire on pin 2 that charges the Breaksafe battery!!! Eril cooking tea so I did not want to interupt her to look at Breaksafe charge light, so I set my phone recording video of the Breaksafe unit then went to the 12 pin plug and had 12 volts from spare cig lighter plug to apply to pins 2 & 3. Just looked at video and it worked.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 5th of October 2014 01:13:56 PM
Dougwe said
06:23 PM Oct 4, 2014
Shut the front gate!
Good thinking 99. Well done mate.
Cloak said
08:53 AM Oct 5, 2014
Well at last a good use for a smart phone...
oldbobsbus said
09:47 AM Oct 5, 2014
If only more people would learn about their rig before hitting the road..
I think it is very important to know your rig and how everything works it can save you heaps of money and time finding out that all you needed to do was flick a switch..
Honestly after reading some of the questions on this forum there are peeps out there that should be locked in their yard to protect them from themselves..
2weis said
10:48 AM Oct 5, 2014
oldbobsbus wrote:
Honestly after reading some of the questions on this forum there are peeps out there that should be locked in their yard to protect them from themselves..
would you rather they not ask questions and remain ignorant ????
and not all people were born knowing all the answers
brian
rockylizard said
11:09 AM Oct 5, 2014
oldbobsbus wrote:
~~~SNIP Honestly after reading some of the questions on this forum there are peeps out there that should be locked in their yard to protect them from themselves..
Gday...
Cheers - John
Papou said
01:06 PM Oct 5, 2014
oldbobsbus wrote:
If only more people would learn about their rig before hitting the road..
I think it is very important to know your rig and how everything works it can save you heaps of money and time finding out that all you needed to do was flick a switch..
Honestly after reading some of the questions on this forum there are peeps out there that should be locked in their yard to protect them from themselves..
Met a lot of clever people over the years who know the science to everything but had problems scratching their acehole lol . I believe that knowing a little of everything is better than not knowing anything at all and to know , one must ask and there is no such thing as a silly question.
That one question you ask and get an answer for may be the answer that saves your pudding down the road lol..
beiffe said
09:30 AM Oct 6, 2014
A question is only silly if someone thinks they know it all.
Most of us are prepared to assist as in real terms we all start from scratch.
I refrain for offering advise lots of times as there are too many smart Alec know it alls on most forums.
Many new members don't know about the search facility and often need more help when they are not conversant in the field.
Many of us have dealt with electrics/ electronics/ mechanical etc most of our lifes while some have been pencil pushers and office workers.
office workers would walk all over you for accounting and stock control etc as well as a computer person has detailed knowledge of IT.
Never knock a persons skill level as tomorrow they may have the knowledge that you need to solve your problem and they may decide that they are not prepared to help you.
One of lives challenges is to sort the wheat from the chalf and to decide who knows and who thinks he knows.
Regards
Brian
dorian said
09:58 AM Oct 6, 2014
I don't know if it's still the case today, but 30 years ago in South Korea one needed to pass an exam which included questions about the mechanical functions of an automobile (including how the engine works) before being granted a driving licence.
Personally, I would expect that anyone who intends to live on the road would prepare themselves by accumulating as much DIY information as they possibly could. Self sufficiency could be vital for survival. I know that WEA offer courses pitched at beginners, and perhaps there are others.
briche said
11:54 AM Oct 6, 2014
6 years ago when Cherly and I were just putting our thoughts together about starting out on the road realized that there was a lot of things that I needed answers for. So I posted the questions on the forum with the comment "they may sound silly questions but I need the answers so we don't make mistakes, etc"
the response we got to our silly questions was just amazing. To see the answers that came back showed us that no matter how silly they may sound there are valid ones to the person asking them. So as far as I am concerned there is no such thing as a silly question. The silly thing in this equation is the one that make a fool of him/her self. So often the answers that came quite often answer other people questions that they have not got around to asking.
there is another aspect of asking questions on this forum is that it brings out the very best of it.
Anyway that's my rant on the topic and it's about some people need to think before they open there mouth or have they forgotten that they were once in the same place once.
briche
aussie_paul said
12:26 PM Oct 6, 2014
This is a mostly wonderful forum. With my physical difficulties I find it quite tough to do the normal stuff I use to. Now I ask "silly" questions to save having to do things more than once, and some things not at all. That is where the GN forum comes in. I have a need to understand why and how everything works. Just can't trust just because it works.
Thanks to those that have/are helping me, and apologies to those I annoy.
Aussie Paul.
Lozza1956 said
06:03 PM Oct 6, 2014
How boring would it be if we all knew everything😃
oldbobsbus said
07:41 PM Oct 6, 2014
Geez some of you are quick to jump on the bandwagon.. I'm not talking about questions that are asking for information of interest not only to the poster but also to others. I'm talking about the ones where someone asks :-
How far is it from Nambour to Gympie along the Bruce Highway.. If they can't work that type of thing out...like I said they should be confined to their backyard..
I recently got caught behind a bloke towing a large van on a narrow road that stopped in the middle of the road to take a photo of some emus totally unconcerned that I was held up behind him..
I am the first to offer helpful advice to anyone here and sometimes even more..
aussie_paul said
07:48 PM Oct 6, 2014
oldbobsbus wrote:
Geez some of you are quick to jump on the bandwagon.. I'm not talking about questions that are asking for information of interest not only to the poster but also to others. I'm talking about the ones where someone asks :-
How far is it from Nambour to Gympie along the Bruce Highway.. If they can't work that type of thing out...like I said they should be confined to their backyard..
I recently got caught behind a bloke towing a large van on a narrow road that stopped in the middle of the road to take a photo of some emus totally unconcerned that I was held up behind him..
I am the first to offer helpful advice to anyone here and sometimes even more..
You sure are Bob...
Aussie Paul.
Cruising Cruze said
09:55 PM Oct 6, 2014
Let me help you Bob it's only 70 km or so
MaryJane said
10:02 PM Oct 6, 2014
Heck, AP, your learning curve? Something that's been at the back of my mind, but successfully ignored. Now I'm going to have to research that In further detail.
That's why I follow Techies.....
Thanks I think
oldtrack123 said
11:00 PM Oct 6, 2014
beiffe wrote:
[1]A question is only silly if someone thinks they know it all.
[2]Most of us are prepared to assist as in real terms we all start from scratch.
[3]I refrain for offering advise lots of times as there are too many smart Alec know it alls on most forums.
[4]Many new members don't know about the search facility and often need more help when they are not conversant in the field.
[5]Many of us have dealt with electrics/ electronics/ mechanical etc most of our lifes
[6]while some have been pencil pushers and office workers. office workers would walk all over you for accounting and stock control etc as well as a computer person has detailed knowledge of IT.
[7]1]Never knock a persons skill level as tomorrow they may have the knowledge that you need to solve your problem and they may decide that they are not prepared to help you.
[8]One of lives challenges is to sort the wheat from the chalf and to decide who knows and who thinks he knows.
Regards Brian
Here we go AGAIN
The same old whinebecause your mate's feelings got hurt when it was pointed out he lacked very basic electrical .& electronic knowledge
I say this as some one who has WORKED with electricals since 1948 & & Electronics since 1951 when I started servicing
electronic equipment
In fact one of the few who specilised in that field at that time.
[How much experience have YOU had with Electrics ,Electronics, mechanicals over YOUR life???
now
[1]Totally agree No question is too silly to ask, although there may be some silly replies
[2] Yes, Indeed & go to great length to give further details if requested
[3]Perhaps that is sour grapes on your part to find many DO KNOW more than you
[4]Totally agree,which is why some of us go to great lenghts to to point out errors in others's post which may have lead the inquirer astray, even though that may hurt some egos.
[5]yes indeed, in my case hands on since 1948 started apprentice ship as an electrical fitter & mechanic. & 1951 for
industrial & similar Electronics when I stated servicing electronic equipment
[6]Yes. beware of those poor pencil pushers
[7]yes, quite true provide they are not giving incorrect or unsound advice,or posting long posts full of confused padding.
[8[]Oooh how very true & boy o boy, there is an awfull lot of chaff in some posts with very little wheat.
THAT IS the frightening part & why at times egos have to suffer
Some of us do make mistakes & are prepared to accept that,sadly a FEW on forums are never wrong, no matter how much more qualified are the ones who tell them they are wrong!!
Sadly those FEW just go on & on & on padding up their post with all sorts of smoke screens
I SAY to ALL seeking information ASK & ASK until you are satified that you understand the info that you seek is true wheat, not chaff
PeterQ
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Monday 6th of October 2014 11:32:17 PM
MaryJane said
11:40 PM Oct 6, 2014
Dear Testosterones,
As a 40 something female, that ultimately and totally wants to know how my van works, who will be on the road permanently next week, I say one thing.
i read Techies before I read everything else. This forum has been HUGE, as in MASSIVE in my learning of many things technical. And as a forum, far easier to read and communicate than others. I ask questions, I search questions, many are out dated already. And I also don't take it all as gospel, but note it down and research elsewhere too, cos that's my nature.
You can argue all you want, but you're spoiling it for someone like me, that relies on good and honest opinions. It all seems to go down to this....
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 01:52:23 AM
aussie_paul said
01:51 AM Oct 7, 2014
MaryJane wrote:
Dear Testosterones,
As a 40 something female, that ultimately and totally wants to know how my van works, who will be on the road permanently next week, I say one thing.
i read Techies before I read everything else. This forum has been HUGE, as in MASSIVE in my learning of many things technical. And as a forum, far easier to read and communicate than others. I ask questions, I search questions, many are out dated already. And I also don't take it all as gospel, but note it down and research elsewhere too, cos that's my nature.
You can argue all you want, but you're spoiling it for someone like me, that relies on good and honest opinions. It all seems to go down to this....
Love it MaryJane. Well, my thread is really hijacked now!!! Dougwe & Wombat not guilty!! Wonders will never cease!! Ha ha, all good fun...
Aussie Paul.
Phil C said
11:11 AM Oct 7, 2014
Pass
On second thoughts... What me worry!!!! Alfred E Newman.
-- Edited by Phil C on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 11:14:49 AM
-- Edited by Phil C on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 11:41:46 AM
-- Edited by Phil C on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 12:19:45 PM
I tested the Breaksafe battery and it is low. Found the paperwork and it should charge from car. Connected 12 pin plug, started vehicle, and no charge light!!! At the moment I have connected the load terminals of the solar regulator to the external charging terminals on the Breaksafe unit, and charge light shines. Next will be to apply 12 volts to the heavier black wire, pin 2, in the van 12 pin plug and see if that shows it charging.
Ok found it is the heavier black wire on pin 2 that charges the Breaksafe battery!!! Eril cooking tea so I did not want to interupt her to look at Breaksafe charge light, so I set my phone recording video of the Breaksafe unit then went to the 12 pin plug and had 12 volts from spare cig lighter plug to apply to pins 2 & 3. Just looked at video and it worked.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 5th of October 2014 01:13:56 PM
Good thinking 99. Well done mate.
If only more people would learn about their rig before hitting the road..
I think it is very important to know your rig and how everything works it can save you heaps of money and time finding out that all you needed to do was flick a switch..
Honestly after reading some of the questions on this forum there are peeps out there that should be locked in their yard to protect them from themselves..
would you rather they not ask questions and remain ignorant ????
and not all people were born knowing all the answers
brian
Gday...
Cheers - John
Met a lot of clever people over the years who know the science to everything but had problems scratching their acehole lol . I believe that knowing a little of everything is better than not knowing anything at all and to know , one must ask and there is no such thing as a silly question.
That one question you ask and get an answer for may be the answer that saves your pudding down the road lol..
Most of us are prepared to assist as in real terms we all start from scratch.
I refrain for offering advise lots of times as there are too many smart Alec know it alls on most forums.
Many new members don't know about the search facility and often need more help when they are not conversant in the field.
Many of us have dealt with electrics/ electronics/ mechanical etc most of our lifes while some have been pencil pushers and office workers.
office workers would walk all over you for accounting and stock control etc as well as a computer person has detailed knowledge of IT.
Never knock a persons skill level as tomorrow they may have the knowledge that you need to solve your problem and they may decide that they are not prepared to help you.
One of lives challenges is to sort the wheat from the chalf and to decide who knows and who thinks he knows.
Regards
Brian
Personally, I would expect that anyone who intends to live on the road would prepare themselves by accumulating as much DIY information as they possibly could. Self sufficiency could be vital for survival. I know that WEA offer courses pitched at beginners, and perhaps there are others.
6 years ago when Cherly and I were just putting our thoughts together about starting out on the road realized that there was a lot of things that I needed answers for. So I posted the questions on the forum with the comment "they may sound silly questions but I need the answers so we don't make mistakes, etc"
the response we got to our silly questions was just amazing. To see the answers that came back showed us that no matter how silly they may sound there are valid ones to the person asking them. So as far as I am concerned there is no such thing as a silly question. The silly thing in this equation is the one that make a fool of him/her self. So often the answers that came quite often answer other people questions that they have not got around to asking.
there is another aspect of asking questions on this forum is that it brings out the very best of it.
Anyway that's my rant on the topic and it's about some people need to think before they open there mouth or have they forgotten that they were once in the same place once.
briche
This is a mostly wonderful forum. With my physical difficulties I find it quite tough to do the normal stuff I use to. Now I ask "silly" questions to save having to do things more than once, and some things not at all. That is where the GN forum comes in. I have a need to understand why and how everything works. Just can't trust just because it works.
Thanks to those that have/are helping me, and apologies to those I annoy.
Aussie Paul.
Geez some of you are quick to jump on the bandwagon.. I'm not talking about questions that are asking for information of interest not only to the poster but also to others. I'm talking about the ones where someone asks :-
How far is it from Nambour to Gympie along the Bruce Highway.. If they can't work that type of thing out...like I said they should be confined to their backyard..
I recently got caught behind a bloke towing a large van on a narrow road that stopped in the middle of the road to take a photo of some emus totally unconcerned that I was held up behind him..
I am the first to offer helpful advice to anyone here and sometimes even more..
You sure are Bob...
Aussie Paul.
Let me help you Bob it's only 70 km or so




Heck, AP, your learning curve? Something that's been at the back of my mind, but successfully ignored. Now I'm going to have to research that In further detail.
That's why I follow Techies.....
Thanks
I think 
Here we go AGAIN
The same old whine

because your mate's feelings got hurt when it was pointed out he lacked very basic electrical .& electronic knowledge
I say this as some one who has WORKED with electricals since 1948 & & Electronics since 1951 when I started servicing
electronic equipment
In fact one of the few who specilised in that field at that time.
[How much experience have YOU had with Electrics ,Electronics, mechanicals over YOUR life???
now
[1]Totally agree No question is too silly to ask, although there may be some silly replies
[2] Yes, Indeed & go to great length to give further details if requested
[3]Perhaps that is sour grapes on your part to find many DO KNOW more than you
[4]Totally agree,which is why some of us go to great lenghts to to point out errors in others's post which may have lead the inquirer astray, even though that may hurt some egos.
[5]yes indeed, in my case hands on since 1948 started apprentice ship as an electrical fitter & mechanic. & 1951 for
industrial & similar Electronics when I stated servicing electronic equipment
[6]Yes. beware of those poor pencil pushers
[7]yes, quite true provide they are not giving incorrect or unsound advice,or posting long posts full of confused padding.
[8[]Oooh how very true & boy o boy, there is an awfull lot of chaff in some posts with very little wheat.
THAT IS the frightening part & why at times egos have to suffer
Some of us do make mistakes & are prepared to accept that,sadly a FEW on forums are never wrong, no matter how much more qualified are the ones who tell them they are wrong!!
Sadly those FEW just go on & on & on padding up their post with all sorts of smoke screens
I SAY to ALL seeking information ASK & ASK until you are satified that you understand the info that you seek is true wheat, not chaff
PeterQ
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Monday 6th of October 2014 11:32:17 PM
Dear Testosterones,
As a 40 something female, that ultimately and totally wants to know how my van works, who will be on the road permanently next week, I say one thing.
i read Techies before I read everything else. This forum has been HUGE, as in MASSIVE in my learning of many things technical. And as a forum, far easier to read and communicate than others. I ask questions, I search questions, many are out dated already. And I also don't take it all as gospel, but note it down and research elsewhere too, cos that's my nature.
You can argue all you want, but you're spoiling it for someone like me, that relies on good and honest opinions. It all seems to go down to this....
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 01:52:23 AM
Love it MaryJane. Well, my thread is really hijacked now!!!
Dougwe & Wombat not guilty!! Wonders will never cease!!
Ha ha, all good fun...
Aussie Paul.
Pass
On second thoughts... What me worry!!!! Alfred E Newman.
-- Edited by Phil C on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 11:14:49 AM
-- Edited by Phil C on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 11:41:46 AM
-- Edited by Phil C on Tuesday 7th of October 2014 12:19:45 PM