saw this list published on a facebook page just now:
New POLICE Fines in Queensland.. Be careful. More revenue..
NEW QLD Road Rules as of now!!!!
$256 + 0 points Driving with person or animal on lap
$44 + 0 points Reversing for longer than necessary
$256 + 1 point Following another vehicle too closely
$256 + 0 points Driving without a clear view in all directions
$66 + 2 points Driving in right-hand lane of a multi-lane road with an 80km/h or higher limit
$44 + 0 points Entering an intersection when the road beyond is blocked
$44 + 0 points Parking/stopping within 10m of an intersection without a traffic light
$88 + 0 points Making a U-turn at an intersection controlled by lights
$198 + 3 points Making a U-turn across a single or double continuous line
$352 + 2 points Playing loud music
$66 + 0 points Tooting the horn
$330 + 3 points Using mobile phone including use by cyclists
$44 + 0 points Leaving vehicle without handbrake left on Having Sat Nav in an impeding position supposed to be in bottom right hand in front of driver Failing to have a hand on the wheel while stopped at lights
Author: Not the Queensland Government
rockylizard said
07:44 PM Sep 4, 2014
Gday...
Praps others will come on and yell me down .... but I am fairly certain this has been put up about three times over the past 12 months .. and proven to be false.
Anyway, others will let me know
Cheers - John
Dougwe said
07:51 PM Sep 4, 2014
I think you might be right Rocky. I thought I had seen it before as well.
Most of those rules are already rules anyway.
Still good that people give a heads up though, even if it's not right.
rockylizard said
07:58 PM Sep 4, 2014
Gday...
A search of Google found a couple of Facebook posts (of differing dates) that seem to be the "source".
This an article from June 2013 ... praps is relevent (still?)
so me playing the rollings stones " can't get no satisfaction" at an acceptable volume to me is now an offence. they would have to be carrying noise meters to fine people, surely. omg. and as dougwe would say " shut the back gate".
-- Edited by the rocket on Thursday 4th of September 2014 09:39:53 PM
-- Edited by the rocket on Thursday 4th of September 2014 09:40:36 PM
PeterD said
12:26 AM Sep 5, 2014
The Fraser Coast Chronicle article only dispels a few or those listed rules. The rest have been in the Australian Road Rules for yonks. You can download them from here.
"The Rules have no legislative force of their own. For the most part, each state and territory has copied the Rules into their own laws; however, not every provision of the Rules has been copied exactly in each state and territory. Also, there are a number of provisions in the Rules that specifically leave certain matters to state and territory governments to determine."
You will find that most states incorporate nearly all of these rules in their own legislation. If you learn these rules then and follow them you should be fairly safe anywhere in Oz. For the actual road rules of each state there are links further down the page to download for every state. Download your own states rules, read through them and see how many rules you don't know. And yes you will find most of the list in the OP in your local rules.
-- Edited by PeterD on Friday 5th of September 2014 12:47:26 AM
KFT said
02:29 AM Sep 5, 2014
Thanks Peter,
I had a feeling someone would know for sure.
frank
beiffe said
08:28 AM Sep 5, 2014
Depends on whether the copper needs a pinch to bring their tally up.
On the spot fines are designed so you pay up because you don't want to go to court, so you pay on the spot and no one cares whether the fine should have been given or not. They have your money and you wear the points etc if there is any involved.
Been on the end of a copper nearly back to base who was short and fined me for something that I could not have done because if I had done what he accused me off and he was able to get me in the time he did he either had to be able to get his big motor bike to fly over three lanes of traffic or he could fly himself and carried the bike.
He admitted he was interested in buying a vehicle similar and wanted to find out some details and he was going back to base to knock off from his shift. The station was two blocks away.
I had a witness in the car who was prepared to go to court with me but I did not think it was worth the effort , but gee it did change my concept of coppers as before I respected them, but now I consider them to be there to collect money and we are all fair game. They are just revenue collectors for the government even though some do a terrible job that I would not like but I would not sleep at night if I knew I could destoy someones job or live style just so I could reach my total and get my bonus or what ever they get for reaching the total.
Regards
Brian
Woolly said
10:18 AM Sep 5, 2014
Maybe I am different, but I can't see anything wrong with these laws. Ok the loud music one is open to interpretation but with some of the fools who drive around with the windows shaking due to the music, I can understand the law. There is no way they could have full concentration on the road or surroundings.
I really do not believe any of the above are revenue raising.
al said
01:09 PM Sep 5, 2014
I live in SA the cheapest fine here is $300 and up wards. I wish we had those prices down here.
But our government knows best we deserve all these expensive fines and revenue whoops I mean safety cameras.
A mate of mine is a highway patrol cop he says if you don't speed you won't get caught.
I bet him or any of his cop mates $1000 that they could not drive 10kl. sticking with the flow of traffic that they
would go over the speed limit at least 5 times. Guess what I still have my $1000 no takers.
AL
-- Edited by al on Friday 5th of September 2014 01:10:40 PM
Bas + Eve said
01:14 PM Sep 5, 2014
The $330 for mobile phone is about the only correct one. There are laws that have been drafted but never implemented.
PeterD said
02:03 PM Sep 5, 2014
Bas + Eve wrote:
The $330 for mobile phone is about the only correct one. There are laws that have been drafted but never implemented.
This is typical of very many posters on forums. You go to the trouble to give the members information or links to find that information. Then they go ahead and post rubbish without checking things.
I have been through the Australian Road Rules and found the appropriate sections. I then went through the Queensland legislation and cross checked most of them. Qld has used the same numbering as the Oz rules and the rules were there with the same wording.
I suggest that you all download the appropriate legislation and study it. There seems to be a serious lack of knowledge of road rules amongst members here.
Does anybody know if this is true?saw this list published on a facebook page just now:
New POLICE Fines in Queensland.. Be careful. More revenue..
NEW QLD Road Rules as of now!!!!
$256 + 0 points Driving with person or animal on lap
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
$44 + 0 points Reversing for longer than necessary
296 Driving a vehicle in reverse
$256 + 1 point Following another vehicle too closely
126 Keeping a safe distance behind vehicles
$256 + 0 points Driving without a clear view in all directions
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
$66 + 2 points Driving in right-hand lane of a multi-lane road with an 80km/h or higher limit
130 Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road
$44 + 0 points Entering an intersection when the road beyond is blocked
128 Entering blocked intersections
$44 + 0 points Parking/stopping within 10m of an intersection without a traffic light
170 Stopping in or near an intersection
$88 + 0 points Making a U-turn at an intersection controlled by lights
40 Making a U-turn at an intersection with traffic lights
$198 + 3 points Making a U-turn across a single or double continuous line
132 Keeping to the left of the centre of a road or the dividing line
$352 + 2 points Playing loud music
$66 + 0 points Tooting the horn
224 Using horns and similar warning devices
$330 + 3 points Using mobile phone including use by cyclists
A cyclist has to obey the dame rules as car drivers
$44 + 0 points Leaving vehicle without handbrake left on
213 Making a motor vehicle secure
Having Sat Nav in an impeding position supposed to be in bottom right hand in front of driver
Failing to have a hand on the wheel while stopped at lights
A word of warning, just because I did not find a reference to some of these rules, it does not mean they don't exist.
-- Edited by PeterD on Friday 5th of September 2014 02:07:54 PM
KFT said
03:00 PM Sep 5, 2014
You have put a lot of effort into that post Peter, thank you.
I agree that some posters must not even bother to read the OP let alone subsequent posts. I wonder is it lack of computer skills or are they trolling?
I tend to ignore them these days, there is much entertainment to be had reading the sensible stuff.
If you have no objections I would like to copy your post for future reference.
frank
PeterD said
03:20 PM Sep 5, 2014
Frank, I post things here for others. Feel free to copy what you wish.
exa41 said
07:20 PM Sep 5, 2014
Seems to me that most of the rules are common cense anyway, do the wrong thing as with anything in life these days and you will get pinged , fines may vary from state to state but the rules are relatively simular .
KFT said
07:41 PM Sep 5, 2014
exa41 wrote:
Seems to me that most of the rules are common cense anyway, do the wrong thing as with anything in life these days and you will get pinged , fines may vary from state to state but the rules are relatively similar .
my attitude exactly which is why I asked the question
just to be sure to be sure.
avagreatweekend
and thanks PeterD much appreciated
-- Edited by KFT on Friday 5th of September 2014 07:41:49 PM
Bas + Eve said
03:00 PM Sep 7, 2014
eterD wrote:
Bas + Eve wrote:
The $330 for mobile phone is about the only correct one. There are laws that have been drafted but never implemented.
This is typical of very many posters on forums. You go to the trouble to give the members information or links to find that information. Then they go ahead and post rubbish without checking things.
I have been through the Australian Road Rules and found the appropriate sections. I then went through the Queensland legislation and cross checked most of them. Qld has used the same numbering as the Oz rules and the rules were there with the same wording.
I suggest that you all download the appropriate legislation and study it. There seems to be a serious lack of knowledge of road rules amongst members here.
Does anybody know if this is true?saw this list published on a facebook page just now:
New POLICE Fines in Queensland.. Be careful. More revenue..
NEW QLD Road Rules as of now!!!!
$256 + 0 points Driving with person or animal on lap
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
$44 + 0 points Reversing for longer than necessary
296 Driving a vehicle in reverse
$256 + 1 point Following another vehicle too closely
126 Keeping a safe distance behind vehicles
$256 + 0 points Driving without a clear view in all directions
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
$66 + 2 points Driving in right-hand lane of a multi-lane road with an 80km/h or higher limit
130 Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road
$44 + 0 points Entering an intersection when the road beyond is blocked
128 Entering blocked intersections
$44 + 0 points Parking/stopping within 10m of an intersection without a traffic light
170 Stopping in or near an intersection
$88 + 0 points Making a U-turn at an intersection controlled by lights
40 Making a U-turn at an intersection with traffic lights
$198 + 3 points Making a U-turn across a single or double continuous line
132 Keeping to the left of the centre of a road or the dividing line
$352 + 2 points Playing loud music
$66 + 0 points Tooting the horn
224 Using horns and similar warning devices
$330 + 3 points Using mobile phone including use by cyclists
A cyclist has to obey the dame rules as car drivers
$44 + 0 points Leaving vehicle without handbrake left on
213 Making a motor vehicle secure
Having Sat Nav in an impeding position supposed to be in bottom right hand in front of driver
Failing to have a hand on the wheel while stopped at lights
A word of warning, just because I did not find a reference to some of these rules, it does not mean they don't exist.
-- Edited by PeterD on Friday 5th of September 2014 02:07:54 PM
What I said was the rules have been drafted but not implemented. There are hundreds of laws that are never enforced because they are realistically impractical eg You must have at least one hand on the wheel at all times, even when stationary. Never enforced and been law for many years (Son an area traffic commander). Our original poster was no doubt referring to the NEW lowering of speed limits imposed in some areas of Qld.
-- Edited by Bas + Eve on Sunday 7th of September 2014 03:13:56 PM
PeterD said
05:27 PM Sep 7, 2014
Bas + Eve wrote:What I said was the rules have been drafted but not implemented. There are hundreds of laws that are never enforced because they are realistically impractical
Your original story was not implemented. After I pointed out they were in fact implemented you change foot and change your tack. How about you get your story correct in the first place. If you had have it would have saved me a long reply.
Bas + Eve said
06:59 PM Sep 7, 2014
PeterD wrote:
Bas + Eve wrote:What I said was the rules have been drafted but not implemented. There are hundreds of laws that are never enforced because they are realistically impractical
Your original story was not implemented. After I pointed out they were in fact implemented you change foot and change your tack. How about you get your story correct in the first place. If you had have it would have saved me a long reply.
Oh Dear ....From the Oxford Dictionary Implemented: Forced or compelled or put into force. Not worth getting into a war of words over it mate.
-- Edited by Bas + Eve on Sunday 7th of September 2014 07:04:52 PM
Does anybody know if this is true?
saw this list published on a facebook page just now:
New POLICE Fines in Queensland.. Be careful. More revenue..
NEW QLD Road Rules as of now!!!!
$256 + 0 points Driving with person or animal on lap
$44 + 0 points Reversing for longer than necessary
$256 + 1 point Following another vehicle too closely
$256 + 0 points Driving without a clear view in all directions
$66 + 2 points Driving in right-hand lane of a multi-lane road with an 80km/h or higher limit
$44 + 0 points Entering an intersection when the road beyond is blocked
$44 + 0 points Parking/stopping within 10m of an intersection without a traffic light
$88 + 0 points Making a U-turn at an intersection controlled by lights
$198 + 3 points Making a U-turn across a single or double continuous line
$352 + 2 points Playing loud music
$66 + 0 points Tooting the horn
$330 + 3 points Using mobile phone including use by cyclists
$44 + 0 points Leaving vehicle without handbrake left on
Having Sat Nav in an impeding position supposed to be in bottom right hand in front of driver
Failing to have a hand on the wheel while stopped at lights
Author: Not the Queensland Government
Gday...
Praps others will come on and yell me down .... but I am fairly certain this has been put up about three times over the past 12 months .. and proven to be false.
Anyway, others will let me know
Cheers - John
Most of those rules are already rules anyway.
Still good that people give a heads up though, even if it's not right.
Gday...
A search of Google found a couple of Facebook posts (of differing dates) that seem to be the "source".
This an article from June 2013 ... praps is relevent (still?)
http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/social-media-claims-about-new-traffic-laws-are-fal/1895153/
Cheers - JOhn
so me playing the rollings stones " can't get no satisfaction" at an acceptable volume to me is now an offence. they would have to be carrying noise meters to fine people, surely. omg. and as dougwe would say " shut the back gate".
-- Edited by the rocket on Thursday 4th of September 2014 09:39:53 PM
-- Edited by the rocket on Thursday 4th of September 2014 09:40:36 PM
The Fraser Coast Chronicle article only dispels a few or those listed rules. The rest have been in the Australian Road Rules for yonks. You can download them from here.
If you go to this page you will see the following:
"Do they apply across Australia?
"The Rules have no legislative force of their own. For the most part, each state and territory has copied the Rules into their own laws; however, not every provision of the Rules has been copied exactly in each state and territory. Also, there are a number of provisions in the Rules that specifically leave certain matters to state and territory governments to determine."
You will find that most states incorporate nearly all of these rules in their own legislation. If you learn these rules then and follow them you should be fairly safe anywhere in Oz. For the actual road rules of each state there are links further down the page to download for every state. Download your own states rules, read through them and see how many rules you don't know. And yes you will find most of the list in the OP in your local rules.
Some time ago the RMS published this quiz. How many of these do you know? How many apply in your state?
-- Edited by PeterD on Friday 5th of September 2014 12:47:26 AM
I had a feeling someone would know for sure.
frank
On the spot fines are designed so you pay up because you don't want to go to court, so you pay on the spot and no one cares whether the fine should have been given or not. They have your money and you wear the points etc if there is any involved.
Been on the end of a copper nearly back to base who was short and fined me for something that I could not have done because if I had done what he accused me off and he was able to get me in the time he did he either had to be able to get his big motor bike to fly over three lanes of traffic or he could fly himself and carried the bike.
He admitted he was interested in buying a vehicle similar and wanted to find out some details and he was going back to base to knock off from his shift. The station was two blocks away.
I had a witness in the car who was prepared to go to court with me but I did not think it was worth the effort , but gee it did change my concept of coppers as before I respected them, but now I consider them to be there to collect money and we are all fair game. They are just revenue collectors for the government even though some do a terrible job that I would not like but I would not sleep at night if I knew I could destoy someones job or live style just so I could reach my total and get my bonus or what ever they get for reaching the total.
Regards
Brian
I really do not believe any of the above are revenue raising.
I live in SA the cheapest fine here is $300 and up wards. I wish we had those prices down here.
But our government knows best we deserve all these expensive fines and revenue whoops I mean safety cameras.
A mate of mine is a highway patrol cop he says if you don't speed you won't get caught.
I bet him or any of his cop mates $1000 that they could not drive 10kl. sticking with the flow of traffic that they
would go over the speed limit at least 5 times. Guess what I still have my $1000 no takers.
AL
-- Edited by al on Friday 5th of September 2014 01:10:40 PM
This is typical of very many posters on forums. You go to the trouble to give the members information or links to find that information. Then they go ahead and post rubbish without checking things.
I have been through the Australian Road Rules and found the appropriate sections. I then went through the Queensland legislation and cross checked most of them. Qld has used the same numbering as the Oz rules and the rules were there with the same wording.
I suggest that you all download the appropriate legislation and study it. There seems to be a serious lack of knowledge of road rules amongst members here.
Does anybody know if this is true? saw this list published on a facebook page just now:
New POLICE Fines in Queensland.. Be careful. More revenue..
NEW QLD Road Rules as of now!!!!
$256 + 0 points Driving with person or animal on lap
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
$44 + 0 points Reversing for longer than necessary
296 Driving a vehicle in reverse
$256 + 1 point Following another vehicle too closely
126 Keeping a safe distance behind vehicles
$256 + 0 points Driving without a clear view in all directions
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
$66 + 2 points Driving in right-hand lane of a multi-lane road with an 80km/h or higher limit
130 Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road
$44 + 0 points Entering an intersection when the road beyond is blocked
128 Entering blocked intersections
$44 + 0 points Parking/stopping within 10m of an intersection without a traffic light
170 Stopping in or near an intersection
$88 + 0 points Making a U-turn at an intersection controlled by lights
40 Making a U-turn at an intersection with traffic lights
$198 + 3 points Making a U-turn across a single or double continuous line
132 Keeping to the left of the centre of a road or the dividing line
$352 + 2 points Playing loud music
$66 + 0 points Tooting the horn
224 Using horns and similar warning devices
$330 + 3 points Using mobile phone including use by cyclists
A cyclist has to obey the dame rules as car drivers
$44 + 0 points Leaving vehicle without handbrake left on
213 Making a motor vehicle secure
Having Sat Nav in an impeding position supposed to be in bottom right hand in front of driver
Failing to have a hand on the wheel while stopped at lights
A word of warning, just because I did not find a reference to some of these rules, it does not mean they don't exist.
-- Edited by PeterD on Friday 5th of September 2014 02:07:54 PM
I agree that some posters must not even bother to read the OP let alone subsequent posts. I wonder is it lack of computer skills or are they trolling?
I tend to ignore them these days, there is much entertainment to be had reading the sensible stuff.
If you have no objections I would like to copy your post for future reference.
frank
my attitude exactly which is why I asked the question
just to be sure to be sure.
avagreatweekend
and thanks PeterD much appreciated
-- Edited by KFT on Friday 5th of September 2014 07:41:49 PM
What I said was the rules have been drafted but not implemented. There are hundreds of laws that are never enforced because they are realistically impractical eg You must have at least one hand on the wheel at all times, even when stationary. Never enforced and been law for many years (Son an area traffic commander). Our original poster was no doubt referring to the NEW lowering of speed limits imposed in some areas of Qld.
-- Edited by Bas + Eve on Sunday 7th of September 2014 03:13:56 PM
Your original story was not implemented. After I pointed out they were in fact implemented you change foot and change your tack. How about you get your story correct in the first place. If you had have it would have saved me a long reply.
Oh Dear ....From the Oxford Dictionary Implemented: Forced or compelled or put into force. Not worth getting into a war of words over it mate.
-- Edited by Bas + Eve on Sunday 7th of September 2014 07:04:52 PM