There we were, watching the ABC news, when suddenly the picture went to "No signal". "Grrr", said Mr D, "it does this every evening".
I said "I didn't touch it, all I did was turn on the light over the sink" So I turned it off again, and Lo and Behold, the ABC came back!!!
How can a little LED light affect the TV signal from one channel only??? All the other channels are unaffected, and the ABC is not always affected, depending on where we are at the time.
I reckon we have a Gremlin.
Cruising Cruze said
08:47 PM Aug 22, 2014
Hi Gerty
Lessen to be learned Don't use the light above the sink
and it wont happen again
Cheers John
Happywanderer said
10:03 PM Aug 22, 2014
Hi Gerty, I have a similar problem but with my radio. Don't bother with the TV much these days.
If I plug anything into the 12 volt plugs for charging, the radio squeals and carries on like it's tail is caught in a mousetrap. It sometimes happens when I turn the over the bed LED light on as well.
Although tonight I've got phone charger plugged in as well as laptop charger and all is good, you know why?? because AFL is on and I don't want to listen to it, lol
I'm wondering if it only happens when parked in certain places. Was going to get it checked by auto electrician but trying everything here tonight, all is goo, including turning on the over the bed LED light.
The Phantom said
10:34 PM Aug 22, 2014
Your problem is an overload on the wiring circuit. The VAST decoder, being the most sensitive item, will shut down.
I had the same problem, so I wired a dedicated circuit for the decoder and have had no problems since.
The Phantom
exa41 said
11:25 PM Aug 22, 2014
Most electrical devices will drop out on low voltage, when you have a number of heavish current draws you get a voltage drop across the cable because of the cable resistance and the cable is under rated for what is on the circuit . As the Phantom said you may have to wire in a new circuit with heavier cable (2.5 mm sq for power) . But check the circuit with a multi meter as there might be a faulty connection some where . Check the supply voltage at the source to the van and then at the appliance under load and see what difference there is.
Jonathan said
06:41 AM Aug 23, 2014
I too had a problem with the TV dropping out . It was also due to power drop when the 12v plug (normal cigarette type) connector got warm and simply breaking the connection ..
Only recently was I made aware of the "merit" type of connector which also locks in the connection to make a more secure contact .. I had always thought that they were all the same ..
Having now brushed aside some of that grey matter, The problem was quite easily solved ..
.. thought I'd mention that for any others that may not be familiar with these "merit" 12v plugs !
I neglected to mention that both Male and female MERIT connectors need to be used .. not just the male plug !
-- Edited by Jonathan on Saturday 23rd of August 2014 06:55:51 AM
Dougwe said
06:52 AM Aug 23, 2014
Now there ya go Gerty, some good answers, those said, are you sure wombat hasn't been chewing on some wires under the van.
Hope all is well with you and MrD and you TV problem sorted.
_wombat_ said
09:53 AM Aug 23, 2014
Dougwe wrote:
Now there ya go Gerty, some good answers, those said, are you sure wombat hasn't been chewing on some wires under the van.
Hope all is well with you and MrD and you TV problem sorted.
No I don't chew wires
Roving-Dutchy said
09:57 AM Aug 23, 2014
Jonathan wrote:
I too had a problem with the TV dropping out . It was also due to power drop when the 12v plug (normal cigarette type) connector got warm and simply breaking the connection ..
Only recently was I made aware of the "merit" type of connector which also locks in the connection to make a more secure contact .. I had always thought that they were all the same ..
Having now brushed aside some of that grey matter, The problem was quite easily solved ..
.. thought I'd mention that for any others that may not be familiar with these "merit" 12v plugs !
I neglected to mention that both Male and female MERIT connectors need to be used .. not just the male plug !
-- Edited by Jonathan on Saturday 23rd of August 2014 06:55:51 AM
The Merit connectors are excellent.
You can get a plug that can be used to connect to both Merit sockets and cigarette lighter sockets you just need to remove a small plastic collar when using a merit socket it then enables you to use merit sockets without replacing all the cigarette sockets in other locations.
Cheers
David
_wombat_ said
10:04 AM Aug 23, 2014
GD, there was a news flash last night saying the ABC will not in future work if you have LED lighting and it suggested you get all of your lighting changed, they did say at the current time were undertaking test to see what happens when they switch to not liking LED lights so that is why you are getting the tv go off every so often. ok what a load of rubbish Dougwe told me all this and I thought I should pass it on.
Dougwe said
10:12 AM Aug 23, 2014
Oh yes I did mate "......" "......"
Pete in Gisborne said
11:49 AM Aug 23, 2014
I have this same problem at home. The ABC say check all leads, antenna etc. but it doesn't fix the problem. I don't have any problems with all other channels.
I reckon they turn down the output of the transmitter. I can't see any other reason for it.
Sometime it pixelates first but most times it is a dead cut. Very frustrating so we use Iview a lot. Most times it is during the news and 7:30 report QI and insiders on Sunday mornings.
Cloak said
12:55 PM Aug 23, 2014
Is that LED light on a 12VDC circuit or on a 240VAC circuit?
Cheers.
DeBe said
01:15 PM Aug 23, 2014
The problem is some LED lights use a switchmode powersuply, & if its not designed properly radiates interference. This interference seems to upset the frequency ABC use.
Cloak said
01:44 PM Aug 23, 2014
That's where I was heading Mr Bishop...
Well done son.
Pete in Gisborne said
02:43 PM Aug 23, 2014
Pete in Gisborne wrote:
I have this same problem at home. The ABC say check all leads, antenna etc. but it doesn't fix the problem. I don't have any problems with all other channels. I reckon they turn down the output of the transmitter. I can't see any other reason for it. Sometime it pixelates first but most times it is a dead cut. Very frustrating so we use Iview a lot. Most times it is during the news and 7:30 report QI and insiders on Sunday mornings.
Further to my previous message; I have LED lights completely in the caravan and have never had a problem with ABC tv reception or other channels. Maybe I should watch tv in the van at home!!!
Gerty Dancer said
08:16 PM Aug 23, 2014
DeBe wrote:
The problem is some LED lights use a switchmode powersuply, & if its not designed properly radiates interference. This interference seems to upset the frequency ABC use.
I reckon that might explain it. Thanks DeBe.
We have moved now and have all channels without any problems, no matter what lights I turn on, and we don't have a Vast thingy, just a Wyngard antenna.
Thanks for your replies everybody
Dougwe said
06:44 AM Aug 24, 2014
"Vast thingy" Gee that sounds too technical for me Gerty
_wombat_ said
07:38 AM Aug 24, 2014
Dougwe wrote:
"Vast thingy" Gee that sounds too technical for me Gerty
Hmmm, maybe it is for you
NO ITS NOT, when you are out in the playground and see a dish outside a van ask for info once you are shown a couple of times you will find it easy, now if you are only going bush for a short while then maybe stick with your current setup and if you can't get a signal the watch the radio, or read a book, BUT as you are looking at getting another van it maybe worth looking at the tv's with vast incorporated into them, but you will still need a dish and learn how to set it up (very easy even for you) if you go this way then I suggest you get the dish on a tripod not the one that sit on the ground in a frame, sold by iTech, oh by the way do not buy anything from iTech IMHO
Dougwe said
08:38 AM Aug 24, 2014
Sorry Gerty my good friend and mate wombat is trying to get me to go "off topic" yet again but because he has been so nice to offer advice I must reply.
Thanks for the info my good friend but I already have a dish and only use it for eating food out of, sometimes there is a vast amount of food in it too. I now have a second use for it. I only have things on board that serve more than one purpose. Never thought of using my plastic dish for TV, wow, you learn something every day.
_wombat_ said
08:43 AM Aug 24, 2014
Dougwe wrote:
Sorry Gerty my good friend and mate wombat is trying to get me to go "off topic" yet again but because he has been so nice to offer advice I must reply.
Thanks for the info my good friend but I already have a dish and only use it for eating food out of, sometimes there is a vast amount of food in it too. I now have a second use for it. I only have things on board that serve more than one purpose. Never thought of using my plastic dish for TV, wow, you learn something every day.
Hmmm, I know you eat off of your dish I've see what size you are.
BOT, I cannot help with your question GD cos I'm only a wombat.
There we were, watching the ABC news, when suddenly the picture went to "No signal". "Grrr", said Mr D, "it does this every evening".
I said "I didn't touch it, all I did was turn on the light over the sink"
So I turned it off again, and Lo and Behold, the ABC came back!!!
How can a little LED light affect the TV signal from one channel only??? All the other channels are unaffected, and the ABC is not always affected, depending on where we are at the time.
I reckon we have a Gremlin.
Hi Gerty
Lessen to be learned Don't use the light above the sink
and it wont happen again
Cheers John
If I plug anything into the 12 volt plugs for charging, the radio squeals and carries on like it's tail is caught in a mousetrap. It sometimes happens when I turn the over the bed LED light on as well.
Although tonight I've got phone charger plugged in as well as laptop charger and all is good, you know why?? because AFL is on and I don't want to listen to it, lol
I'm wondering if it only happens when parked in certain places. Was going to get it checked by auto electrician but trying everything here tonight, all is goo, including turning on the over the bed LED light.
Your problem is an overload on the wiring circuit. The VAST decoder, being the most sensitive item, will shut down.
I had the same problem, so I wired a dedicated circuit for the decoder and have had no problems since.
The Phantom
I too had a problem with the TV dropping out . It was also due to power drop when the 12v plug (normal cigarette type) connector got warm and simply breaking the connection ..
Only recently was I made aware of the "merit" type of connector which also locks in the connection to make a more secure contact .. I had always thought that they were all the same ..
Having now brushed aside some of that grey matter, The problem was quite easily solved ..
.. thought I'd mention that for any others that may not be familiar with these "merit" 12v plugs !
I neglected to mention that both Male and female MERIT connectors need to be used .. not just the male plug !
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=MERIT+connectors&client=firefox-a&hs=4dx&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7633U-6uEorp8AWg4oCQAg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1536&bih=706&dpr=1.25
-- Edited by Jonathan on Saturday 23rd of August 2014 06:55:51 AM
Hope all is well with you and MrD and you TV problem sorted.
No I don't chew wires
The Merit connectors are excellent.
You can get a plug that can be used to connect to both Merit sockets and cigarette lighter sockets you just need to remove a small plastic collar when using a merit socket it then enables you to use merit sockets without replacing all the cigarette sockets in other locations.
Cheers
David
GD, there was a news flash last night saying the ABC will not in future work if you have LED lighting and it suggested you get all of your lighting changed, they did say at the current time were undertaking test to see what happens when they switch to not liking LED lights so that is why you are getting the tv go off every so often. ok what a load of rubbish Dougwe told me all this and I thought I should pass it on.
Oh yes I did mate "......"
"......" 
I reckon they turn down the output of the transmitter. I can't see any other reason for it.
Sometime it pixelates first but most times it is a dead cut. Very frustrating so we use Iview a lot. Most times it is during the news and 7:30 report QI and insiders on Sunday mornings.
Cheers.
The problem is some LED lights use a switchmode powersuply, & if its not designed properly radiates interference. This interference seems to upset the frequency ABC use.
Well done son.
Further to my previous message; I have LED lights completely in the caravan and have never had a problem with ABC tv reception or other channels. Maybe I should watch tv in the van at home!!!
I reckon that might explain it. Thanks DeBe.
We have moved now and have all channels without any problems,
no matter what lights I turn on,
and we don't have a Vast thingy, just a Wyngard antenna.
Thanks for your replies everybody
"Vast thingy" Gee that sounds too technical for me Gerty
Hmmm, maybe it is for you
NO ITS NOT, when you are out in the playground and see a dish outside a van ask for info once you are shown a couple of times you will find it easy, now if you are only going bush for a short while then maybe stick with your current setup and if you can't get a signal the watch the radio, or read a book, BUT as you are looking at getting another van it maybe worth looking at the tv's with vast incorporated into them, but you will still need a dish and learn how to set it up (very easy even for you) if you go this way then I suggest you get the dish on a tripod not the one that sit on the ground in a frame, sold by iTech, oh by the way do not buy anything from iTech IMHO
Thanks for the info my good friend but I already have a dish and only use it for eating food out of, sometimes there is a vast amount of food in it too. I now have a second use for it. I only have things on board that serve more than one purpose. Never thought of using my plastic dish for TV, wow, you learn something every day.
Hmmm, I know you eat off of your dish I've see what size you are.
BOT, I cannot help with your question GD cos I'm only a wombat.