We are thinking of buying a Yamaha generator but noticed that the output is 230 volts is this going to make any difference to how the appliances perform in particular the Ibis Air Command air conditioner, looking at the Yamaha 2400I as I don't think the Honda 2 KVA will do it, any advice will be appreciated.
ozjohn said
09:53 PM Jul 2, 2014
Trevor law wrote:
We are thinking of buying a Yamaha generator but noticed that the output is 230 volts is this going to make any difference to how the appliances perform in particular the Ibis Air Command air conditioner, looking at the Yamaha 2400I as I don't think the Honda 2 KVA will do it, any advice will be appreciated.
While we always talk about 240V the international standard is 230V. The voltage you receive down the line varies quite a lot depending on where you are, time of the day, day of the week and temperature. You'd be surprise at how low it can actually get at times. 230V won't make any difference to the performance of the Yamaha. Oh! And you're getting one of the best units available. I'm sure PeterD will add some more info. Ozjohn.
JohnR said
10:03 PM Jul 2, 2014
Trevor
We have the honda 20I (2400) and it did struggle with our previous van (Jayco Sterling 21), I think the airconditioning unit was a coleman. Our latest van 23' outback sterling with upgraded Ibis command will run comfortably on 20I Honda.
John
SnowT said
12:11 AM Jul 3, 2014
You need to ask if the Rating of the Generator is Peak or RMS power..
Peak has a Lower Rating than an RMS rated system..
2400 is not actually 2400 it's more like 1800..
Juergen
Phil C said
09:57 AM Jul 3, 2014
We also have a honda 20i. Not sure I can comments on the yamaha however the honda works brilliant. Mind you the only reason its used is to charge the batts on a dull day when the solar is low.
I agree with Juergen, the gens are rated in VA (volt amps) which is a trigonametic ratio of resistive power and reactive power. Please dont ask me to explain.. lol Basically means, when the rubber hits the road the number 2000 Watts is a misnomer.
FYI my gen struggles with our Ibis at start up, thats why I have installed fans and a low wattage heater.
Travel safe
-- Edited by Phil C on Thursday 3rd of July 2014 09:59:32 AM
Murraman said
11:22 AM Jul 3, 2014
We bought a 2nd hand Yamaha 2.4 and ir runs our air con in the bus no problems, we paid $1100 for it. I decided on the Yamaha as on forums they were saying in high ambient temps that the Honda 2.0 overheats and the Yamaha doesn't. Good luck with whatever you choose.
Trevor law said
12:57 PM Jul 3, 2014
We have been on Internet this morning to look at the spec,s of the ibis and they seem to be well over the capability of both the Honda 2 and the Yamaha 2400 .So went to the local caravan centre to ask advice ,they told us that the only generator would have to be at least a 3kva .So now we are totally at a loss and it looks like we are going to have to spend more money.So we only want to spend money once but find the Honda 3 to be a bit on the expensive side but saying that i guess you get what you pay for in the end.
KFT said
02:14 PM Jul 3, 2014
Trevor
have a look at the powertech brand from Jaycar. Also sold by some jayco agents.
Australian warranty and reasonable price for the power output I think is 3Kva.
frank
SnowT said
09:07 PM Jul 3, 2014
The Caravan/motor-home Aircon's that are out in the market place.. is one of the thing's that I don't understand..
If you want an Air Con there are much better unit's out there..
- For example there are Domestic Unit's that are far more capable and they are cheaper and run far more economically when compared to the RV unit's..
Juergen
Phil C said
10:51 AM Jul 4, 2014
Now that grinds my gears something fierce, when we bought the honda 20i, the dealer swore blind it would run our aircon, I had my serious doubts.
None the less it will charge the batteries in a day and is very quiet. I guess on a hot day we camp out at the shopping center, or get in the car and travel.
3KVA would hev done the trick for sure as the aircon is a tad over 2kva.
Safe travels
The Phantom said
01:31 PM Jul 4, 2014
I have an Air Command Cormorant AC in my van and my Yamaha 2400Is runs it with ease. It has only tripped once that I can think of and the wife was using her sewing machine as well as the AC being on.
A further bonus is that the Yamaha runs quieter under load than the Honda.
The Phantom
sandsmere said
08:19 AM Jul 5, 2014
We have a Honda 3kva. Runs everything easily. Very quiet as well.
We are at Lake Elphinstone at the moment, camped near some people with a Honda 2kva.
The 3kva is quieter than their 2kva.
gollymolly said
06:24 PM Jul 6, 2014
We have a Yamaha 2kva and can run the AC only with a short 15a lead, maximum length 2m but does rev high. The Yamaha does run quieter than the Honda and the Honda has 2 plug outlet where the Yammy only has one.
Murraman said
07:53 PM Jul 6, 2014
The 2.4 Yamaha has 2x15amp outlets, that doesn't mean it will supply 30 amps. In total you wouldn't get 10 amps out of both. Our bus has 2 x 15 amp inlet sockets, One for air con the other one does all the other 230v. So it is handy for us that it has 2 outlets.
Trevor law said
07:16 AM Jul 7, 2014
Thanks for all your input like you say quite
a few salespeople have said that the 2kva would run the aircon .But after reading your comments and talking to a lot of grey nomad I think we will go for the for the Yamaha .Thanks for your input .Safe travels
We are thinking of buying a Yamaha generator but noticed that the output is 230 volts is this going to make any difference to how the appliances perform in particular the Ibis Air Command air conditioner, looking at the Yamaha 2400I as I don't think the Honda 2 KVA will do it, any advice will be appreciated.
We are thinking of buying a Yamaha generator but noticed that the output is 230 volts is this going to make any difference to how the appliances perform in particular the Ibis Air Command air conditioner, looking at the Yamaha 2400I as I don't think the Honda 2 KVA will do it, any advice will be appreciated.
While we always talk about 240V the international standard is 230V. The voltage you receive down the line varies quite a lot depending on where you are, time of the day, day of the week and temperature. You'd be surprise at how low it can actually get at times.
230V won't make any difference to the performance of the Yamaha.
Oh! And you're getting one of the best units available.
I'm sure PeterD will add some more info.
Ozjohn.
Trevor
We have the honda 20I (2400) and it did struggle with our previous van (Jayco Sterling 21), I think the airconditioning unit was a coleman. Our latest van 23' outback sterling with upgraded Ibis command will run comfortably on 20I Honda.
John
Peak has a Lower Rating than an RMS rated system..
2400 is not actually 2400 it's more like 1800..
Juergen
We also have a honda 20i. Not sure I can comments on the yamaha however the honda works brilliant. Mind you the only reason its used is to charge the batts on a dull day when the solar is low.
I agree with Juergen, the gens are rated in VA (volt amps) which is a trigonametic ratio of resistive power and reactive power. Please dont ask me to explain.. lol Basically means, when the rubber hits the road the number 2000 Watts is a misnomer.
FYI my gen struggles with our Ibis at start up, thats why I have installed fans and a low wattage heater.
Travel safe
-- Edited by Phil C on Thursday 3rd of July 2014 09:59:32 AM
We have been on Internet this morning to look at the spec,s of the ibis and they seem to be well over the capability of both the Honda 2 and the Yamaha 2400 .So went to the local caravan centre to ask advice ,they told us that the only generator would have to be at least a 3kva .So now we are totally at a loss and it looks like we are going to have to spend more money.So we only want to spend money once but find the Honda 3 to be a bit on the expensive side but saying that i guess you get what you pay for in the end.
have a look at the powertech brand from Jaycar. Also sold by some jayco agents.
Australian warranty and reasonable price for the power output I think is 3Kva.
frank
If you want an Air Con there are much better unit's out there..
- For example there are Domestic Unit's that are far more capable and they are cheaper and run far more economically when compared to the RV unit's..
Juergen
None the less it will charge the batteries in a day and is very quiet. I guess on a hot day we camp out at the shopping center, or get in the car and travel.
3KVA would hev done the trick for sure as the aircon is a tad over 2kva.
Safe travels
I have an Air Command Cormorant AC in my van and my Yamaha 2400Is runs it with ease. It has only tripped once that I can think of and the wife was using her sewing machine as well as the AC being on.
A further bonus is that the Yamaha runs quieter under load than the Honda.
The Phantom
We have a Honda 3kva. Runs everything easily. Very quiet as well.
We are at Lake Elphinstone at the moment, camped near some people with a Honda 2kva.
The 3kva is quieter than their 2kva.
a few salespeople have said that the 2kva would run the aircon .But after reading your comments and talking to a lot of grey nomad I think we will go for the for the Yamaha .Thanks for your input .Safe travels