Where do people put a diesel heater in a 24' van with ensuite at the rear?
Aussie Paul.
Kendo said
10:36 PM Jul 1, 2014
Inside! *giggle*
Sorry Paul I just realised my next post would be #100 and I couldn't help myself
Jeff
Jonathan said
05:50 AM Jul 2, 2014
aussie_paul wrote:
Where do people put a diesel heater in a 24' van with ensuite at the rear?
Aussie Paul.
Hi Paul ..
My van is a little shorter at 18ft inside but have my ensuite at the rear too ..
I have a (gas) heater which is situated inside one of the fixed seats (at the table) which is quite central. Only one vent was used which is
placed to direct flow forwards and around the base of the bed.
I find that I benefit best this way as ..
1) warm air circulates low before it rises and cools .. and
2) then it functions well when used simply as a cooling fan too ..
You're preferences may differ, but it suits me fine.
grahamg said
10:04 AM Jul 2, 2014
you need to find a good location for the exhaust pipe. This must be away from the air input and no where near the door vents. Make sure that you can reach this spot for where you want to locate the heater.
I have mine under a seat , with input coming from the rear and the exhaust to opposite side.
aussie_paul said
04:14 PM Jul 2, 2014
Where does the air come from for burning the diesel, and where do the burnt gases go? I understand the circulation of the warmed heating air but not the burnt air.
Aussie Paul.
Birdy1710 said
05:33 PM Jul 2, 2014
The air intake and exhaust outlet are all under the van, so you definitely don,t get any diesel fumes.
The inlet and outlet for the heated air is inside close to where you situate the heating unit. the outlet can be ducted.
Mine is under the bed so it blows hot air the length of the van. Works great and very cheap to run.
Aus-Kiwi said
07:29 PM Jul 2, 2014
Yep ours is under seat at table . Blows towards bed. The inlet is other side of lounge seat.. Yes the exhaust is under floor outside.. Have trouble hearing its on..
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 2nd of July 2014 07:29:38 PM
grae and deb said
09:46 PM Jul 2, 2014
hi paul , good planning is the key , dont rush it , we took few days to come up with our possy, we were lucky as we cut a access door into the side of van where there was a hidden waste of space because of the kitchen l shaped benchs , we were planning under the bed and ducting towards the front living area , it really depends a lot too on what type of heater you purchase and the length of wiring harness , we basically worked ours just right to accomodate the lenght of the 3 harness needed to connect everything , basically everything is plug and play , ie plug it into the correct place and away it will go , hook up power via fused protected circuit and your off , your question too regards air etc , the air to mix with diesel comes via a small intke hose under the floor , the fuel via a hose via your pump via your fuel tank reservoir , the exhaust , try to make it past any windows or extend it to the rear , you can extend it quite easily , make sure you use a muffler too, the air intake is one end of the main unit , cold air in hot air out the other ducted to wherever you decide , our heater is a snugger , excellent value for money , its ticking away as i type this at 22. c , just nice , one tip another nomad put me onto was , if under bed or under a seat is the go , dont connect a cold air duct but use the cavity as your air intake area , put the grill mesh cover on the end of the unit and use a small house type air vent to access air from the rest of the cabin into the designated area for fitting the unit , this avoids a lot of noise from the ducting ie no ressinance from the duct against the floor or any structure , fuel line wont probally be enough but a tip to repco etc and a few more metres will get you there , snugger is good set up too for fuel reservoir too as you get a break away coupling , to stop air getting into the system like a outboard motor fuel tank and a pick up tube , if you would like some pics of how ours is set up , let me know happy to send you some wondering too did you have success with recliners ? here is a pic of our jerry can , and our new access door to access the heater and fuel pick up into it , great and easy to fill , not that you have too fil it often good luck graeme
Our lounge chair scenario can be found at the thread of Has anyone taken out a standard club lounge?
Aussie Paul.
baysidetas said
12:03 AM Jul 4, 2014
I am not clear about where some of the people above are drawing the fresh air for their heaters.
THE EXHAUST SHOULD BE VENTED TO THE OUTSIDE and not near an opening into the van.
THE FRESH AIR SHOULD BE DRAWN FROM THE OUTSIDE (to avoid oxygen depletion inside the van) and it should be well clear of the exhaust outlet.
Barrie
Joe50 said
12:31 AM Jul 4, 2014
Air used for combustion with the diesel is drawn from outside the van and the resultant exhaust gas is vented to the outside away from any windows or doors, and I believe with the new gas regulations not within an annex or under an awning. The air heated by the combustion is drawn from within the van and circulates around the combustion chamber before exiting through the outlet(s). Same principle applies to gas heaters.
Bas + Eve said
10:38 PM Jul 4, 2014
Ours is in the main storage compartment which is under the bed. Its own sealed section. The heat outlet comes from the side of the bed. The exhaust has its own pipe running alongside the engine exhaust. Works fabulously!! Must have a COMOx (carbon monoxide) detector (compulsory)
-- Edited by Bas + Eve on Friday 4th of July 2014 10:39:12 PM
Dunmowin said
10:33 PM Jul 6, 2014
WE have two outlets in the van. One is in the centre of the van, roughly under the stove at ankle level. Heat rises, so the warm air finds it way around the van. The other outlet is in the ensuite, and can be turned off and on as required. To warm our ensuite in winter before using the shower - bliss.....
Our unit also has the facility to blow fresh air around at ankle level on hot days (without using the heating facility), drawing cooler air from under the van.
aussie_paul said
10:43 PM Jul 6, 2014
Dunmowin wrote:
WE have two outlets in the van. One is in the centre of the van, roughly under the stove at ankle level. Heat rises, so the warm air finds it way around the van. The other outlet is in the ensuite, and can be turned off and on as required. To warm our ensuite in winter before using the shower - bliss.....
Our unit also has the facility to blow fresh air around at ankle level on hot days (without using the heating facility), drawing cooler air from under the van.
Ok Dunmowin, thanks. What size do you have, 2kw?
And also thanks for all comments which are very helpful for me to make a decision.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 6th of July 2014 10:44:36 PM
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 6th of July 2014 10:45:20 PM
Dunmowin said
10:49 PM Jul 6, 2014
aussie_paul wrote:
Dunmowin wrote:
WE have two outlets in the van. One is in the centre of the van, roughly under the stove at ankle level. Heat rises, so the warm air finds it way around the van. The other outlet is in the ensuite, and can be turned off and on as required. To warm our ensuite in winter before using the shower - bliss.....
Our unit also has the facility to blow fresh air around at ankle level on hot days (without using the heating facility), drawing cooler air from under the van.
Ok Dunmowin, thanks. What size do you have, 2kw?
And also thanks for all comments which are very helpful for me to make a decision.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 6th of July 2014 10:44:36 PMthe
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 6th of July 2014 10:45:20 PM
Where do people put a diesel heater in a 24' van with ensuite at the rear?
Aussie Paul.
Inside! *giggle*
Sorry Paul I just realised my next post would be #100 and I couldn't help myself
Jeff
Hi Paul ..
My van is a little shorter at 18ft inside but have my ensuite at the rear too ..
I have a (gas) heater which is situated inside one of the fixed seats (at the table) which is quite central. Only one vent was used which is
placed to direct flow forwards and around the base of the bed.
I find that I benefit best this way as ..
1) warm air circulates low before it rises and cools .. and
2) then it functions well when used simply as a cooling fan too ..
You're preferences may differ, but it suits me fine.
I have mine under a seat , with input coming from the rear and the exhaust to opposite side.
Where does the air come from for burning the diesel, and where do the burnt gases go? I understand the circulation of the warmed heating air but not the burnt air.
Aussie Paul.
The air intake and exhaust outlet are all under the van, so you definitely don,t get any diesel fumes.
The inlet and outlet for the heated air is inside close to where you situate the heating unit. the outlet can be ducted.
Mine is under the bed so it blows hot air the length of the van. Works great and very cheap to run.
Yep ours is under seat at table . Blows towards bed. The inlet is other side of lounge seat.. Yes the exhaust is under floor outside.. Have trouble hearing its on..
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 2nd of July 2014 07:29:38 PM
hi paul , good planning is the key , dont rush it , we took few days to come up with our possy, we were lucky as we cut a access door into the side of van where there was a hidden waste of space because of the kitchen l shaped benchs , we were planning under the bed and ducting towards the front living area , it really depends a lot too on what type of heater you purchase and the length of wiring harness , we basically worked ours just right to accomodate the lenght of the 3 harness needed to connect everything , basically everything is plug and play , ie plug it into the correct place and away it will go , hook up power via fused protected circuit and your off , your question too regards air etc , the air to mix with diesel comes via a small intke hose under the floor , the fuel via a hose via your pump via your fuel tank reservoir , the exhaust , try to make it past any windows or extend it to the rear , you can extend it quite easily , make sure you use a muffler too, the air intake is one end of the main unit , cold air in hot air out the other ducted to wherever you decide , our heater is a snugger , excellent value for money , its ticking away as i type this at 22. c , just nice , one tip another nomad put me onto was , if under bed or under a seat is the go , dont connect a cold air duct but use the cavity as your air intake area , put the grill mesh cover on the end of the unit and use a small house type air vent to access air from the rest of the cabin into the designated area for fitting the unit , this avoids a lot of noise from the ducting ie no ressinance from the duct against the floor or any structure , fuel line wont probally be enough but a tip to repco etc and a few more metres will get you there , snugger is good set up too for fuel reservoir too as you get a break away coupling , to stop air getting into the system like a outboard motor fuel tank and a pick up tube , if you would like some pics of how ours is set up , let me know happy to send you some
wondering too did you have success with recliners ?
here is a pic of our jerry can , and our new access door to access the heater and fuel pick up into it , great and easy to fill , not that you have too fil it often
good luck graeme
Thanks Graham, some very good points to consider.
Our lounge chair scenario can be found at the thread of Has anyone taken out a standard club lounge?
Aussie Paul.
THE EXHAUST SHOULD BE VENTED TO THE OUTSIDE and not near an opening into the van.
THE FRESH AIR SHOULD BE DRAWN FROM THE OUTSIDE (to avoid oxygen depletion inside the van) and it should be well clear of the exhaust outlet.
Barrie
Air used for combustion with the diesel is drawn from outside the van and the resultant exhaust gas is vented to the outside away from any windows or doors, and I believe with the new gas regulations not within an annex or under an awning. The air heated by the combustion is drawn from within the van and circulates around the combustion chamber before exiting through the outlet(s). Same principle applies to gas heaters.
Ours is in the main storage compartment which is under the bed. Its own sealed section. The heat outlet comes from the side of the bed. The exhaust has its own pipe running alongside the engine exhaust. Works fabulously!! Must have a COMOx (carbon monoxide) detector (compulsory)
-- Edited by Bas + Eve on Friday 4th of July 2014 10:39:12 PM
WE have two outlets in the van. One is in the centre of the van, roughly under the stove at ankle level. Heat rises, so the warm air finds it way around the van. The other outlet is in the ensuite, and can be turned off and on as required. To warm our ensuite in winter before using the shower - bliss.....
Our unit also has the facility to blow fresh air around at ankle level on hot days (without using the heating facility), drawing cooler air from under the van.
Ok Dunmowin, thanks. What size do you have, 2kw?
And also thanks for all comments which are very helpful for me to make a decision.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 6th of July 2014 10:44:36 PM
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Sunday 6th of July 2014 10:45:20 PM
The brand is Erberspacher 801 See this link. http://caravansplus.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=9198&osCsid=qg7r66ngn3ef5almqlu7eeutu7 this is the one we have, but I don't know if it is 2kw. Maybe the specs will tell.