Buying Chem toilet chemical can work out quite expensive when you are on a long trip away. We normally have to empty every three days, & using that blue chem in the plastic bottle is about $20 or more per bottle. A good substitute that works just as well & lasts much longer is Vanish NapiSan. It is a powder, is bio degradable, works just the same but it does not have a perfume built in, it takes the poo smell away but it is more or less neutral. It costs about $16 for a 2kg plastic container with a snap on lid. I put about two tablespoons full in one of those 300ml drink bottles & add water, shake it up to emulsify it then pour it in the toilet canister with a bit more water just to cover the bottom. Works well, no smell & I'm as happy as hell. One 2kg container has lasted me two years & we use the motorhome quite regularly, & there is still about a quarter left in the container.
Life is too short to be miserable. Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy.
jules47 said
10:31 PM Jun 16, 2014
Hi Baggie - we have used a generic brand of nappy/clothes soaker for over two years - have never had a problem - as you say it is so cheap - did you know the active ingredient is sodium percarbonate - the ideal % of this should be over 30% - the current one I have is 34% and it works extremely well. I don't emulsify the powder - just put a capful in when it is empty, small amount of water activates it - depending on use, we find about a capful every day works well to break down "product", including toilet paper - I only use a 2 ply paper, often the generic brand, and find it disintergrates well - we are in a motor home, and sometimes when travelling the swishing motion can set up a bit of odour, a capful in the cassette via the bowl, will fix the smell.
Santa said
09:36 AM Jun 17, 2014
Morning Jules, yep, the generic brand works just as well if not better than Napisan.
As an additional tip, we also add about a teaspoon of eucalyptus oil as well as the soaker, the combination works very well at keeping odour to a minimum.
jules47 said
10:18 AM Jun 17, 2014
Morning Santa - and yes I also use eucalyptus - lovely smell!! Just don't get it on the seals!!
Re the eucalyptus oil - do you mean PineOclean or real genuine eucalyptus oil?.....and if it's oil, wouldn't it float on the surface, plus why should it not get on the seals.
Sorry for the questions but I like to know why is it so.
Regards
Santa said
11:27 PM Jun 18, 2014
hako wrote:
Re the eucalyptus oil - do you mean PineOclean or real genuine eucalyptus oil?.....and if it's oil, wouldn't it float on the surface, plus why should it not get on the seals. Sorry for the questions but I like to know why is it so. Regards
Evening Denis,
Genuine eucalyptus oil, its for odour control, the fact that it floats on the surface is what makes it so effective.
Re the seals, no idea, however you would have to make a bit of an effort to get any of the oil on the seals.
Glenelg said
07:49 AM Jun 19, 2014
what about olive oil for your seals , there was a video about the seals in a post about thetford dunny light not working. as most of us would already have it in pantry
it's in digress
-- Edited by Glenelg on Thursday 19th of June 2014 07:54:31 AM
jules47 said
10:21 AM Jun 19, 2014
Eucalyptus oil can damage the seals - it is not an "oily" oil, if you know what I mean - olive oil, or vegetable oil (both have thicker consistency than eucy) will keep your seals "healthy". (Didn't know what other word to use there)
-- Edited by jules47 on Thursday 19th of June 2014 10:22:06 AM
hako said
08:47 PM Jun 19, 2014
Thanks Santa, Jules and Dave - makes sense. I wonder if tea-tree oil would do the same (I have a bottle)....guess I could try.
Regards
KFT said
09:21 PM Jun 19, 2014
we found a 2kg container of "nappy soaker" at the reject shop for $5 and it has about the same amount of active ingredient as the rest of them.
works ok in ours over the last couple of years.
frank
Baz421 said
09:50 PM Jun 19, 2014
Would you believe Eucalyptus Oil is classified as a dangerous good under the legislation.
Also it is almost impossible to mix with water,, so I wouldn't just add it in a raw form to toilet holding tanks as it floats on top and will come into contact with rubber if driving with tanks in use ie containing liquid.
We use Pine o clean eucalyptus oil as it is diluted to be at a safe level IMHO to be sold in the supermarket, and yes I believe it does float to the top and aid odour suppression.
I must add that one Aust company has an MSDS for pine o clean but I couldn't access it as I'm not a customer, but one does exist.
Food for thought,,, we take so much for granted on a daily basis.
Santa said
09:38 AM Jun 20, 2014
Been using Eucalyptus fo about 3 years now Baz, does a great job and the seal is still in good nick.
Cupie said
07:36 PM Jun 24, 2014
Santa wrote:
Been using Eucalyptus fo about 3 years now Baz, does a great job and the seal is still in good nick.
Me too.
I have an eye dropper in a styrofoam slab with cut outs that also holds the Eucalyptus bottle, a spray can of olive oil, a bottle of tea tree oil and a container of Duck or Harpic toilet bowl cleaner. All held in a cheap plastic basket. It lives in the vanity cupboard along with the spare toilet paper & the coles 'nappy san' equivalent.
Been using the nappy san stuff since around 2001. Though I have been thinking of trying a bottle of the commercial stuff just to see the difference.
Before emptying the casette I give the bowl a clean out with the Harpic stuff.
I use hot water poured over the powder in the casette & then an eyedropper full of the 100% pure eucalyptus oil. A spray of the inside of the bowl with olive oil to make it slippery & some to lubricate the seals.
A spray of air freshener & fold the end of the toilet paper roll into a point .... All I need then is a paper 'courtesy' tape across the seat & it would be as good as in a good hotel!
(Might be fun to stretch a bit of glad wrap across the bowl for a joke ... but not game & I'd have to clean up the mess)
PeterD said
11:31 PM Jun 24, 2014
Eucalyptus or tea tree oil are disinfectants. They work in a different manner to sodium perchlorate. They will counter the action a little by killing off a little of the composting the perchlorate is achieving. Best to use some other scent that is not a disinfectant.
OutbackPhantom said
05:48 PM Jun 27, 2014
Great post, thank you.
Santa said
06:29 PM Jun 27, 2014
PeterD wrote:
Eucalyptus or tea tree oil are disinfectants. They work in a different manner to sodium perchlorate. They will counter the action a little by killing off a little of the composting the perchlorate is achieving. Best to use some other scent that is not a disinfectant.
Its not meant to be a disinfectant Peter, its used as a deodorizer and does the job well, approx half a teaspoon along with the SPC after each empty.
As I said below have been using it for years and the seals are still fine.
Phil C said
12:13 PM Jul 3, 2014
Baggie wrote:
Buying Chem toilet chemical can work out quite expensive when you are on a long trip away. We normally have to empty every three days, & using that blue chem in the plastic bottle is about $20 or more per bottle. A good substitute that works just as well & lasts much longer is Vanish NapiSan. It is a powder, is bio degradable, works just the same but it does not have a perfume built in, it takes the poo smell away but it is more or less neutral. It costs about $16 for a 2kg plastic container with a snap on lid. I put about two tablespoons full in one of those 300ml drink bottles & add water, shake it up to emulsify it then pour it in the toilet canister with a bit more water just to cover the bottom. Works well, no smell & I'm as happy as hell. One 2kg container has lasted me two years & we use the motorhome quite regularly, & there is still about a quarter left in the container.
Life is too short to be miserable. Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy.
We use the woolies "boost" which I believe has more active chemical in it and is a bit cheaper than the branded product. Works well with a slurp of pine-O-clean every 3rd or so empty.
Safe travels
2oldfarts said
05:40 PM Jan 5, 2015
Just a quick tip, don't use the Oxi Action Boosted Nappysan as is activates the oxygen and will blowup a sealed system as we found out. Couldn't open the trap and found that the Oxi action had pressurized the bowl, was a bit worried for a wile, had to depress the flap quite forcefully to release the pressure.
neilnruth said
09:07 PM Jan 5, 2015
Well that last post is worth reading. Sounds like it could have been a mess.
Maybe you should start another thread with this info so people see it. Some may miss it being at the end of the thread.
-- Edited by neilnruth on Monday 5th of January 2015 09:08:54 PM
jules47 said
08:57 AM Jan 6, 2015
Stick to plain old "Home Brand Clothes and Nappy Soaker" - currently about $2.49 at Woolworths - small capful as needed works a treat, few drops of 100% eaucalyptus oil, after three years our seals are good, our cassette is fine, just rinse with plain water when emptying, comes up clean.
MDE said
11:06 AM Jul 24, 2017
Wonder if a few drops of Eucalyptus oil in the Nappy San container would work before added to cartridge?
Aldi had a special buy nappy San with Eucalyptus which has been the best we have used to date unfortunately it did not appear with the latest Eucalyptus products out last week :(
Phillipn said
02:27 PM Jul 24, 2017
This mixture was given to me by a fellow caravaner.
Just a quick tip, don't use the Oxi Action Boosted Nappysan as is activates the oxygen and will blowup a sealed system as we found out. Couldn't open the trap and found that the Oxi action had pressurized the bowl, was a bit worried for a wile, had to depress the flap quite forcefully to release the pressure.
How much did you put in ? Only need to use a capful, maybe daily.
Buying Chem toilet chemical can work out quite expensive when you are on a long trip away. We normally have to empty every three days, & using that blue chem in the plastic bottle is about $20 or more per bottle. A good substitute that works just as well & lasts much longer is Vanish NapiSan. It is a powder, is bio degradable, works just the same but it does not have a perfume built in, it takes the poo smell away but it is more or less neutral. It costs about $16 for a 2kg plastic container with a snap on lid. I put about two tablespoons full in one of those 300ml drink bottles & add water, shake it up to emulsify it then pour it in the toilet canister with a bit more water just to cover the bottom. Works well, no smell & I'm as happy as hell. One 2kg container has lasted me two years & we use the motorhome quite regularly, & there is still about a quarter left in the container.
Life is too short to be miserable. Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy.
Morning Jules, yep, the generic brand works just as well if not better than Napisan.
As an additional tip, we also add about a teaspoon of eucalyptus oil as well as the soaker, the combination works very well at keeping odour to a minimum.
Morning Santa - and yes I als
o use eucalyptus - lovely smell!! Just don't get it on the seals!!
Sorry for the questions but I like to know why is it so.
Regards
Evening Denis,
Genuine eucalyptus oil, its for odour control, the fact that it floats on the surface is what makes it so effective.
Re the seals, no idea, however you would have to make a bit of an effort to get any of the oil on the seals.
what about olive oil for your seals , there was a video about the seals in a post about thetford dunny light not working. as most of us would already have it in pantry
it's in digress
-- Edited by Glenelg on Thursday 19th of June 2014 07:54:31 AM
Eucalyptus oil can damage the seals - it is not an "oily" oil, if you know what I mean - olive oil, or vegetable oil (both have thicker consistency than eucy) will keep your seals "healthy". (Didn't know what other word to use there)
-- Edited by jules47 on Thursday 19th of June 2014 10:22:06 AM
Regards
works ok in ours over the last couple of years.
frank
Would you believe Eucalyptus Oil is classified as a dangerous good under the legislation.
Also it is almost impossible to mix with water,, so I wouldn't just add it in a raw form to toilet holding tanks as it floats on top and will come into contact with rubber if driving with tanks in use ie containing liquid.
We use Pine o clean eucalyptus oil as it is diluted to be at a safe level IMHO to be sold in the supermarket, and yes I believe it does float to the top and aid odour suppression.
MSDS FOR EUCALYPTUS OIL IN RAW FORM
http://msds.orica.com/pdf/shess-en-cds-010-000000032880.pdf
INFO FROM PINE O CLEAN
http://www.pineocleen.com.au/overview-product-disinfectant-liquid.php
I must add that one Aust company has an MSDS for pine o clean but I couldn't access it as I'm not a customer, but one does exist.
Food for thought,,, we take so much for granted on a daily basis.
Been using Eucalyptus fo about 3 years now Baz, does a great job and the seal is still in good nick.
Me too.
I have an eye dropper in a styrofoam slab with cut outs that also holds the Eucalyptus bottle, a spray can of olive oil, a bottle of tea tree oil and a container of Duck or Harpic toilet bowl cleaner. All held in a cheap plastic basket. It lives in the vanity cupboard along with the spare toilet paper & the coles 'nappy san' equivalent.
Been using the nappy san stuff since around 2001. Though I have been thinking of trying a bottle of the commercial stuff just to see the difference.
Before emptying the casette I give the bowl a clean out with the Harpic stuff.
I use hot water poured over the powder in the casette & then an eyedropper full of the 100% pure eucalyptus oil. A spray of the inside of the bowl with olive oil to make it slippery & some to lubricate the seals.
A spray of air freshener & fold the end of the toilet paper roll into a point .... All I need then is a paper 'courtesy' tape across the seat & it would be as good as in a good hotel!
(Might be fun to stretch a bit of glad wrap across the bowl for a joke ... but not game & I'd have to clean up the mess)
Its not meant to be a disinfectant Peter, its used as a deodorizer and does the job well, approx half a teaspoon along with the SPC after each empty.
As I said below have been using it for years and the seals are still fine.
We use the woolies "boost" which I believe has more active chemical in it and is a bit cheaper than the branded product. Works well with a slurp of pine-O-clean every 3rd or so empty.
Safe travels
Well that last post is worth reading. Sounds like it could have been a mess.
Maybe you should start another thread with this info so people see it. Some may miss it being at the end of the thread.
-- Edited by neilnruth on Monday 5th of January 2015 09:08:54 PM
Aldi had a special buy nappy San with Eucalyptus which has been the best we have used to date unfortunately it did not appear with the latest Eucalyptus products out last week :(
This mixture was given to me by a fellow caravaner.
How much did you put in ? Only need to use a capful, maybe daily.