Hi Paul, when my Avan grows up to an adult (In the very near future I think) I will have a LPG Heater fitted as I have been told they ere quiet and no smell unlike the diesel ones.
grae and deb said
09:17 PM May 28, 2014
hi paul we fitted a diesel heater in our 26 ft van , dont find it smelly , when its going i battle to smell the exhaust outside or inside , noise is same as gas i think to me , diesel was my pref as my diesel jerry can is on the draw bar , so fill up is easy at a bowser when filling the troopy , dosent put any more useage on your gas bottles and is cheap to run , 20 lts did us all winter in tassie when we used it and i have only filled the jerry can once since , there are good bargains with diesel heater to be found , dont be afraid to look elsewhere from dometic esparger or webasto , we fittted a snugger , others have fitted other makes as well for a fraction of the price , and snugger we found had a great service back up and a welcome approach when we inquired if you know what i mean , good luck with your deliberation
KFT said
10:54 PM May 28, 2014
G'day Paul
we had a truma E2400 installed in our van at build and it is magic.
very quiet operation (inside and out)
heats the van in around 15 min
the control is beside our bed so we can turn it on before getting up to a nice warm van
runs on 12v so we can use it in the bush
max gas use is approx. 100 grams/hr
maintenance free
we would not have a van without one now
frank
Aus-Kiwi said
11:45 PM May 28, 2014
Our diesel heater is under the fold down lounge with heater unit under the floor..
Its extremely quiet. cannot smell exhaust smell outside even on start up..
What I like about it is the safety side...Not having to fill gas cylinders,,
Although I have Gas hot water, stove, fridge...
oldboar said
01:48 PM May 29, 2014
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Our diesel heater is under the fold down lounge with heater unit under the floor.. Its extremely quiet. cannot smell exhaust smell outside even on start up.. What I like about it is the safety side...Not having to fill gas cylinders,, Although I have Gas hot water, stove, fridge...
So where is the safety side. Truma E2400 gas heaters draw combustion air from outside & exhaust it the same way (double pipe, exhaust inner, intake outer. Heating is achieved by recirculating air inside the van over a heat exchanger. Diesel heaters to my mind sound like a jet engine (from outside) at startup, stink from outside as does any diesel flame, the incessant ticking of the fuel pump is annoying inside & I see no logic to fitting an additional fuel tank to the van. Any van is going to need gas refills at times, regardless.
Darrell & Sandra
Cloak said
03:27 PM May 29, 2014
Can we install the 45Kg gas bottles?
ozjohn said
05:02 PM May 29, 2014
Cloak wrote:
Can we install the 45Kg gas bottles?
No! Maximum size is 9Kg Regulation vary a little in each state, but all states allow 2 X 9Kg if secured and positioned in accordance with AS 5601. VIC and QLD for instance allow that as the maximum that can be carried on or within an RV. i.e. no other cylinders of any size for BBQ's, lanterns etc can be carried in or on the RV. If you sates allows extra cylinders to be carried then you may need to leave them at home when travelling interstate depending on that States regulations. Many (Self included) carry a small 1.5Kg cylinder for a BBQ hotplate. To stay legal I carry mine secured in the rear tub of the ute. Ozjohn.
Brenda and Alan said
05:25 PM May 29, 2014
We have a diesel Eberspacher d2 heater and find it excellent. We chose diesel over gas on simple economics of running it. Max price for diesel $2 per litre {0.85 Kg per litre). max price for gas $52 per 8.5 Kg.this works out at $2.35 per Kg diesel and $6.11 per Kg for gas. We burn about 1Kg or diesel per night on very cold nights so costs would soon mount up.
Alan
KFT said
05:53 PM May 29, 2014
Our Truma is supposed to use a max of 100 grams/hr. It does not run all that often once the van is warm.
I would be very surprised if it ran for a max of 3-4 hours per day
that is not much LPG per day.
frank
Legendts said
07:31 PM May 29, 2014
We don't have a heater yet, but it's on the list and my preference after reading all I can and getting others opinions gas is winning out.
Sparkster said
11:06 PM May 29, 2014
I fitted an Eberspacher diesel heater to our previous 21' van and found it very good. I put the small diesel tank in a tool box on the van 'A' frame so was easy to fill whilst filling the car.
The main reason I fitted the diesel heater was that I could do it myself, which I found quite easy and kept the initial cost way down.
The only smell we got was outside and only for seconds at start up, absolutely none inside the van.
As far as the pump ticking sound, if you can hear that inside the van it is due to poor installation. There are several ways around it and all are at a cost of few dollars or a good quality heater will have the parts in the kit to prevent the noise being transferred along the chassis.
As for noise from the heater itself inside the van, I can't hear any difference between the gas or diesel they both have muti stage fans that move the warm air out of the heater. If you can't hear that, you're about to get cold.
Both have easy to operate controls that are mounted within reach of the "boss" whoever SHE maybe.
To save quite a lot of money I bought ours from the UK from a very large dealer/supplier and found them excellant to deal with particularly on the technical side of things. They delivered it to my home within a week of me placing the order, I almost did the same again but the dealer who sold me our new van did a great package deal for a Truma gas heater so I didn't even get my tools out this time.
Keith....
Aus-Kiwi said
11:42 AM May 30, 2014
oldboar wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Our diesel heater is under the fold down lounge with heater unit under the floor.. Its extremely quiet. cannot smell exhaust smell outside even on start up.. What I like about it is the safety side...Not having to fill gas cylinders,, Although I have Gas hot water, stove, fridge...
So where is the safety side. Truma E2400 gas heaters draw combustion air from outside & exhaust it the same way (double pipe, exhaust inner, intake outer. Heating is achieved by recirculating air inside the van over a heat exchanger. Diesel heaters to my mind sound like a jet engine (from outside) at startup, stink from outside as does any diesel flame, the incessant ticking of the fuel pump is annoying inside & I see no logic to fitting an additional fuel tank to the van. Any van is going to need gas refills at times, regardless.
Darrell & Sandra
I don't know the brand I can only assume its a GOOD one.. We have run it while camping beside it ..
Safe as inless explosive over LPG..
Fuel comes from 350ltr tank in motorhome.. I guess its the installation?? checked exhaust off heater.. Looks like some type of converter / filter on exhaust..
elliemike said
04:28 PM May 30, 2014
We have the Eberspacher Diesel heater in the Avan Cruiseliner. Great bit of kit.
The start up fan noise is there, but this soon modulated to normal low running and becomes not really noticed. The fuel pump tick even in the size of the Avan is not actually all that bad. I have not got around to minimising the transmission of the pump tick yet as I realy have not found it to be that bad.
But I will remount it with some anti vibration material eventually.
I have not experienced the Gas Version of these heaters so can't comment on them.
New Wanderers said
06:21 PM May 30, 2014
Hi Paul,
We are having a Truma gas hot water / heater installed on our new van, it also runs on 12 volt, as mentioned previously they are meant to be fuel efficient, we also didn't want to have another type fuel to worry about.
dragonfly1 said
05:27 PM May 31, 2014
Hi Paul
Have a look under diesel heater I answered you and put it under the wrong heading
Dragonfly1
aussie_paul said
05:56 PM May 31, 2014
dragonfly1 wrote:
Hi Paul Have a look under diesel heater I answered you and put it under the wrong heading Dragonfly1
No worries, I saw that Cyril, ta.
Aussie Paul.
Jonathan said
06:37 PM May 31, 2014
Hi all ..
I've had both .. In the Motorhome I had a diesel heater that worked fine .. After 4 years I changed my setup to a Tug and Caravan ..
The new Caravan I had fitted with a Truma Gas Heater ..
I find that the Truma is far more efficient than the diesel heater although the diesel heater would be more economical if you ran them for the same time ..
The efficiency of the Gas Heater does not require me to run it consistently .. It also runs much quieter internally and externally .. External noise and the smell of diesel fumes was often quite evident as
friends around me advised ..
I'm happy with my choice and would suggest it as a consideration ..
Jenral said
01:11 PM Jun 2, 2014
We found our diesel heater on Ali Baba half the cost of those on ebay & 4 days delivery from china . It is the best purchase we have made in years & the boss is happy
Thunderchild69 said
07:04 PM Jun 3, 2014
I have been looking at a diesel heater from Diesel Heating Australia (www.dieselheatingaustralia.com/) and was wondering if anyone had any experience with or own one and could give me their opinion.
Diesel verses gas, thoughts please....
Aussie Paul.
hi paul we fitted a diesel heater in our 26 ft van , dont find it smelly , when its going i battle to smell the exhaust outside or inside , noise is same as gas i think to me , diesel was my pref as my diesel jerry can is on the draw bar , so fill up is easy at a bowser when filling the troopy , dosent put any more useage on your gas bottles and is cheap to run , 20 lts did us all winter in tassie when we used it and i have only filled the jerry can once since , there are good bargains with diesel heater to be found , dont be afraid to look elsewhere from dometic esparger or webasto , we fittted a snugger , others have fitted other makes as well for a fraction of the price , and snugger we found had a great service back up and a welcome approach when we inquired if you know what i mean , good luck with your deliberation
we had a truma E2400 installed in our van at build and it is magic.
very quiet operation (inside and out)
heats the van in around 15 min
the control is beside our bed so we can turn it on before getting up to a nice warm van
runs on 12v so we can use it in the bush
max gas use is approx. 100 grams/hr
maintenance free
we would not have a van without one now
frank
Its extremely quiet. cannot smell exhaust smell outside even on start up..
What I like about it is the safety side...Not having to fill gas cylinders,,
Although I have Gas hot water, stove, fridge...
So where is the safety side. Truma E2400 gas heaters draw combustion air from outside & exhaust it the same way (double pipe, exhaust inner, intake outer. Heating is achieved by recirculating air inside the van over a heat exchanger. Diesel heaters to my mind sound like a jet engine (from outside) at startup, stink from outside as does any diesel flame, the incessant ticking of the fuel pump is annoying inside & I see no logic to fitting an additional fuel tank to the van. Any van is going to need gas refills at times, regardless.
Darrell & Sandra
No! Maximum size is 9Kg
Regulation vary a little in each state, but all states allow 2 X 9Kg if secured and positioned in accordance with AS 5601.
VIC and QLD for instance allow that as the maximum that can be carried on or within an RV. i.e. no other cylinders of any size for BBQ's, lanterns etc can be carried in or on the RV.
If you sates allows extra cylinders to be carried then you may need to leave them at home when travelling interstate depending on that States regulations.
Many (Self included) carry a small 1.5Kg cylinder for a BBQ hotplate. To stay legal I carry mine secured in the rear tub of the ute.
Ozjohn.
Alan
I would be very surprised if it ran for a max of 3-4 hours per day
that is not much LPG per day.
frank
I fitted an Eberspacher diesel heater to our previous 21' van and found it very good. I put the small diesel tank in a tool box on the van 'A' frame so was easy to fill whilst filling the car.
The main reason I fitted the diesel heater was that I could do it myself, which I found quite easy and kept the initial cost way down.
The only smell we got was outside and only for seconds at start up, absolutely none inside the van.
As far as the pump ticking sound, if you can hear that inside the van it is due to poor installation. There are several ways around it and all are at a cost of few dollars or a good quality heater will have the parts in the kit to prevent the noise being transferred along the chassis.
As for noise from the heater itself inside the van, I can't hear any difference between the gas or diesel they both have muti stage fans that move the warm air out of the heater. If you can't hear that, you're about to get cold.
Both have easy to operate controls that are mounted within reach of the "boss" whoever SHE maybe.
To save quite a lot of money I bought ours from the UK from a very large dealer/supplier and found them excellant to deal with particularly on the technical side of things. They delivered it to my home within a week of me placing the order, I almost did the same again but the dealer who sold me our new van did a great package deal for a Truma gas heater so I didn't even get my tools out this time.
Keith....
I don't know the brand I can only assume its a GOOD one.. We have run it while camping beside it ..
Safe as inless explosive over LPG..
Fuel comes from 350ltr tank in motorhome.. I guess its the installation?? checked exhaust off heater.. Looks like some type of converter / filter on exhaust..
We have the Eberspacher Diesel heater in the Avan Cruiseliner. Great bit of kit.
The start up fan noise is there, but this soon modulated to normal low running and becomes not really noticed. The fuel pump tick even in the size of the Avan is not actually all that bad. I have not got around to minimising the transmission of the pump tick yet as I realy have not found it to be that bad.
But I will remount it with some anti vibration material eventually.
I have not experienced the Gas Version of these heaters so can't comment on them.
We are having a Truma gas hot water / heater installed on our new van, it also runs on 12 volt, as mentioned previously they are meant to be fuel efficient, we also didn't want to have another type fuel to worry about.
Have a look under diesel heater I answered you and put it under the wrong heading
Dragonfly1
No worries, I saw that Cyril, ta.
Aussie Paul.
Hi all ..
I've had both .. In the Motorhome I had a diesel heater that worked fine .. After 4 years I changed my setup to a Tug and Caravan ..
The new Caravan I had fitted with a Truma Gas Heater ..
I find that the Truma is far more efficient than the diesel heater although the diesel heater would be more economical if you ran them for the same time ..
The efficiency of the Gas Heater does not require me to run it consistently .. It also runs much quieter internally and externally .. External noise and the smell of diesel fumes was often quite evident as
friends around me advised ..
I'm happy with my choice and would suggest it as a consideration ..
We found our diesel heater on Ali Baba half the cost of those on ebay & 4 days delivery from china . It is the best purchase we have made in years & the boss is happy
Thanks and Cheers
TC