I wouldn't have had anywhere near 500 Hours use on my Kipor Gennie Up in till yesterday. After getting back from greens lake it Will not start.....has Oil and New spark Plug went for a second Turned it off then wouldn't start again...I think I'll Drain it out and replace the fuel with Premium Unleaded...........Its a Kipor Portable Generator Series 2 GS 770 Does anybody have one like this ?
Motorhomer13 said
04:34 PM May 25, 2014
Some things to check....
Has a wasp built a mud nest over the exhaust? this is a common occurance when a small engine has not been used for some time.
also
if it wont start try taking the airfilter out ...but just on start up and replace once going...
Hope that helps you get started.
justcruisin01 said
06:35 PM May 25, 2014
jimbo wrote:
I wouldn't have had anywhere near 500 Hours use on my Kipor Gennie Up in till yesterday. After getting back from greens lake it Will not start.....has Oil and New spark Plug went for a second Turned it off then wouldn't start again...I think I'll Drain it out and replace the fuel with Premium Unleaded...........Its a Kipor Portable Generator Series 2 GS 770 Does anybody have one like this ?
That thing has been trouble since the day you got it.
jimbo said
08:06 AM May 26, 2014
Actually Jim that was the first one which I had for a week remember..? Then I took it back to Bunnings in Shepparton Vic and they exchanged it This one has been going well for a couple of years
. I'll Check the wasp thing after I replace the fuel and Air filter
PJK said
10:07 AM May 26, 2014
Jimbo, you mentioned it was running and you turned it off, and now it will not start.
Is it making any attempt to start??
Fires and stumbles and stops?/ or just nothing??
It might be that the "off" switch contacts are stuck and the ignition is shorted out??
Regards
PJK.
oldtrack123 said
02:45 PM May 26, 2014
Hi
if you have checked/ replaced the plug It may be a fuel problem
Get some "Start you Bastard" from Supercheap ,remove air cleaner give a liberal does of spray then immediately try to start it if it runs for a few seconds tery again but this time keep carefully spraying a small amount into the carby for a few minutes then see if it contiues to run
If it does not start, you most likely have an ignition problem.
PeterQ
IRVDAPH said
03:51 PM May 26, 2014
Hello Jimbo
My expiernce,I have a Genquip,same genny for 9 yrs now ,runs perfect won't start,I suspected week spark,I just wipe the plug with finger or s/paper and it starts first pull,on thinking about it I thought why not choke it when shutting down,same thing starts first pull,so thinking along those lines
after storage I now blow on the fuel cap to pressurize the fuel tank and-it starts first time-most times,maybe fuel level in bowl a bit low
Cheers Irv
rockylizard said
03:58 PM May 26, 2014
Gday...
It is their simplicity that is frustrating ... the same frustration as we suffer from a modern vehicle for for the opposite reason - Gennie is simple/vehicle is complex.
However, the gennie only needs three things to run - fuel, air, spark. (let's assume it does not have valve/compression issues.)
* If it is getting spark at plug - plug/electrics/iginition fine - if not replace plug (you already did that) check wire connections.
* If it is getting fuel (check plug after trying to start the motor a few times - if it's wet ... it's gettin' fuel). If not, then either pour a small quantity of petrol directly into the carby - or spray the suggested "start ya bastard" judiciously into the carby.
* Check air cleaner - if that is clean than as suggested before, try to start it without air cleaner on. If it starts, replace air cleaner and if it stops then it is air cleaner problem.
Don't know the Kipor particularly, but the Honda has a 'sensor' that checks oil level - if oil level is low in the Honda it won't start or run. So check oil level.
Once all that is done and it still isn't starting, time to make a decision. If you have sufficient skill, and tools, then start pulling it down to check all connections.
If not then either pack it all up and off to the local small engine repair dude.
Or if absolutely desperate use the cup of petrol solution ... pour the petrol over the outside, step back and throw a match at it.
cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Monday 26th of May 2014 04:00:00 PM
IRVDAPH said
03:58 PM May 26, 2014
Another thought it may be the way they draw fuel to the carby..
jimbo said
05:57 PM May 26, 2014
All taken on board Thanks Guys I'll try it all tomorrow.... New Fuel New Plug and Start you bastard
the ginger nomad said
07:42 PM May 26, 2014
Double check oil level. May have oil alert,if level is low motor will stop or will not start. Some motors you screw dip stick in,others just sit the dipstick in.
John
DeBe said
10:02 PM May 26, 2014
First obvious test is remove the spark plug, make sure its contacting the engine & see if theres a blue spark. If not disconnect the lead to the oil switch, if still no spark disconnect the engine kill switch. Still no spark then you are looking at an ignition problem.
jimbo said
01:55 PM May 27, 2014
Update on Genie...Thanks to you all I have it Purring like my Wife...Did what was suggested and more found two ****roach's in the damn thing How did they get in there.......Burnt to a crisp...... thanks again team...
KFT said
05:16 PM May 28, 2014
Good onya jimbo
generator roaches. never heard of them but I suppose there is something new to learn every day.
thanks for letting us know what the problem was and how you solved it
frank
Baz421 said
09:04 PM May 28, 2014
jimbo wrote:
Update on Genie...Thanks to you all I have it Purring like my Wife...Did what was suggested and more found two ****roach's in the damn thing How did they get in there.......Burnt to a crisp...... thanks again team...
where the hell were they to stop it running???????
I wouldn't have had anywhere near 500 Hours use on my Kipor Gennie Up in till yesterday. After getting back from greens lake it Will not start.....has Oil and New spark Plug went for a second Turned it off then wouldn't start again...I think I'll Drain it out and replace the fuel with Premium Unleaded...........Its a Kipor Portable Generator Series 2 GS 770 Does anybody have one like this ?
Some things to check....
Has a wasp built a mud nest over the exhaust? this is a common occurance when a small engine has not been used for some time.
also
if it wont start try taking the airfilter out ...but just on start up and replace once going...
Hope that helps you get started.
That thing has been trouble since the day you got it.
. I'll Check the wasp thing after I replace the fuel and Air filter
Is it making any attempt to start??
Fires and stumbles and stops?/ or just nothing??
It might be that the "off" switch contacts are stuck and the ignition is shorted out??
Regards
PJK.
Hi
if you have checked/ replaced the plug It may be a fuel problem
Get some "Start you Bastard" from Supercheap ,remove air cleaner give a liberal does of spray then immediately try to start it if it runs for a few seconds tery again but this time keep carefully spraying a small amount into the carby for a few minutes then see if it contiues to run
If it does not start, you most likely have an ignition problem.
PeterQ
Hello Jimbo
My expiernce,I have a Genquip,same genny for 9 yrs now ,runs perfect won't start,I suspected week spark,I just wipe the plug with finger or s/paper and it starts first pull,on thinking about it I thought why not choke it when shutting down,same thing starts first pull,so thinking along those lines
after storage I now blow on the fuel cap to pressurize the fuel tank and-it starts first time-most times,maybe fuel level in bowl a bit low
Cheers Irv
Gday...
It is their simplicity that is frustrating ... the same frustration as we suffer from a modern vehicle for for the opposite reason - Gennie is simple/vehicle is complex.
However, the gennie only needs three things to run - fuel, air, spark. (let's assume it does not have valve/compression issues.)
* If it is getting spark at plug - plug/electrics/iginition fine - if not replace plug (you already did that) check wire connections.
* If it is getting fuel (check plug after trying to start the motor a few times - if it's wet ... it's gettin' fuel). If not, then either pour a small quantity of petrol directly into the carby - or spray the suggested "start ya bastard" judiciously into the carby.
* Check air cleaner - if that is clean than as suggested before, try to start it without air cleaner on. If it starts, replace air cleaner and if it stops then it is air cleaner problem.
Don't know the Kipor particularly, but the Honda has a 'sensor' that checks oil level - if oil level is low in the Honda it won't start or run. So check oil level.
Once all that is done and it still isn't starting, time to make a decision. If you have sufficient skill, and tools, then start pulling it down to check all connections.
If not then either pack it all up and off to the local small engine repair dude.
Or if absolutely desperate use the cup of petrol solution ... pour the petrol over the outside, step back and throw a match at it.
cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Monday 26th of May 2014 04:00:00 PM
Another thought it may be the way they draw fuel to the carby..
John
First obvious test is remove the spark plug, make sure its contacting the engine & see if theres a blue spark. If not disconnect the lead to the oil switch, if still no spark disconnect the engine kill switch. Still no spark then you are looking at an ignition problem.
generator roaches. never heard of them but I suppose there is something new to learn every day.
thanks for letting us know what the problem was and how you solved it
frank
where the hell were they to stop it running???????