It annoys me that people persist in using tape on caravan park taps before screwing their fittings and hose on . The rubber washer inside the fitting does the sealing and not the tape ! The easier the fitting screws on the better the seal !
03_troopy said
05:43 PM May 20, 2014
yep, same with flared pipe connections. Annoys me too.
elliemike said
07:41 PM May 20, 2014
Hawk7 wrote:
It annoys me that people persist in using tape on caravan park taps before screwing their fittings and hose on . The rubber washer inside the fitting does the sealing and not the tape ! The easier the fitting screws on the better the seal !
I was thinking the same my self as we have just this morning left the Ocean Beach CP "Denmark WA" Various water taps all having PTFE Thread Seal tape on the thread at our hose connection point.
The hose connection thread on a Tap outlet, is a Parallel Thread designed to take the Compression Fitting on the end of the Hose. As Hawke7 says above
It's the Washer inside the Hose end fitting that does the Sealing.
Carrying a few spare washers is a must for me.
The PTFE thread seal tape, and the various other Pipe Fitting Thread seal products are designed to work on Tapered Threads usually
SnowT said
07:44 PM May 20, 2014
and I thought this was going to be all about Grey Duct Tape.....
LoL
Juergen
justcruisin01 said
08:22 PM May 20, 2014
maybe they are scottish, to be sure ;to be sure; to be sure.LOL
_wombat_ said
08:26 AM May 21, 2014
I've been using these for the past couple of years, great product, no tape needed.
G'day all haters of the Teflon Tape on tap nut threads!
It's all OK I found a bloke using it in a park a few months ago and decided to approach him and explain that if the washer is in good nick you are wasting time and money using tape.
Or even if the washer is gone it's still a waste of time.
I even offered him a spare washer.
Well, he gave me a lesson in manners, plumbing and aerobics, advising me that I should place my head in what I would consider a rather difficult position although I didn't try it.
After all, you don't have to try everything to know it's not possible, or comfortable.
So now as frustrating as it is watching someone put the tape on, in future I'll just watch - or maybe not!
Keith....
justcruisin01 said
11:53 AM May 21, 2014
Sparkster wrote:
G'day all haters of the Teflon Tape on tap nut threads!
It's all OK I found a bloke using it in a park a few months ago and decided to approach him and explain that if the washer is in good nick you are wasting time and money using tape.
Or even if the washer is gone it's still a waste of time.
I even offered him a spare washer.
Well, he gave me a lesson in manners, plumbing and aerobics, advising me that I should place my head in what I would consider a rather difficult position although I didn't try it.
After all, you don't have to try everything to know it's not possible, or comfortable.
So now as frustrating as it is watching someone put the tape on, in future I'll just watch - or maybe not!
Keith....
Some will never learn & the rest can't be told.
GROMET said
06:58 PM May 25, 2014
just do what I do
get out my die nut run it up the thread
cleans it off real easy screw on connection all good
KFT said
07:03 PM May 25, 2014
GROMET wrote:
just do what I do
get out my die nut run it up the thread
cleans it off real easy screw on connection all good
Gromet you are a genius
what is the thread and what size die nut do I need please?
frank
PeterD said
12:47 AM May 26, 2014
KFT wrote:Gromet you are a genius
what is the thread and what size die nut do I need please?
You need two - BSP ¾" and 1" - The ¾" one fits ½" taps and the 1" one fits ¾" taps.
Just be sure they are BSPP (Parallel) and NOT BSPT (Taper)
KFT said
09:35 AM May 26, 2014
Bob thank you for the info. much appreciated
I will have a look see if I can get them locally.
frank
hako said
12:55 PM May 26, 2014
Just use a wire brush to get the telflon tape off the threads, although we never find it a problem to screw the connection with the tape in place.
elliemike said
07:43 PM May 26, 2014
hako wrote:
Just use a wire brush to get the telflon tape off the threads, although we never find it a problem to screw the connection with the tape in place.
Actually, "PTFE" thread seal Tape, also has lubricating properties in it, to allow "Tapered" threads to be pulled up tight for better sealing.
It's use on the Taps we are talking about should not usually be necessary.
One problem that can arise from this practice, is the tape when it is put on badly or gets frayed. Small pieces get detached and are washed through the hose into the system. These bits of PTFE can then get trapped in the seats of E.g. Non Return valves, Pressure Regulators, Filters, Taps and other plumbing gear, preventing it sometimes from working correctly.
How often have I come across problems in fluid and pneumatic systems that are faulty. The culprit is found to be a tiny piece of PTFE tape trapped in the seat of a valve unit.
-- Edited by elliemike on Monday 26th of May 2014 07:44:38 PM
TAJ said
08:07 PM Jul 18, 2014
easier to use teflon tape than carry stock and die nuts about
worked with plumbers for years always used this tape on threads
we called it thread tape
suenray
Roving-Dutchy said
01:24 PM Jul 19, 2014
_wombat_ wrote:
I've been using these for the past couple of years, great product, no tape needed.
The problem if you change over to hoselink is that some of the newer parks have the tap that already has the click on adapter as part of the tap, tho maybe there is an adaptor that can click onto the tap so you can then use the hoselink fitting.
Cheers
David
03_troopy said
09:09 AM Jul 20, 2014
TAJ wrote:
easier to use teflon tape than carry stock and die nuts about
worked with plumbers for years always used this tape on threads
we called it thread tape
suenray
Works great on fittings where it is required.. But just a PITA on tap threads where the washer in the hose fitting does the sealing.
We call it a PITA ;)
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Sunday 20th of July 2014 09:09:52 AM
Sparkster said
10:57 AM Jul 20, 2014
Taj, The point is that whoever use the Plumbers Tape/Teflon Tape/Thread Tape are using it in an attempt to stop the leak that is caused by not using the washer and are not maintaining their equipment properly.
From the amount of teflon tape used for this purpose I would guess that it would be cheaper to carry a small packet of the washers. The last small pack I bought came with the "O" rings for the click on end as well which you can see leaking on many vans on a walk around the park.
I've never seen a damaged tap thread in a van park so why the tape (or stock and die nuts)?
It annoys me that people persist in using tape on caravan park taps before screwing their fittings and hose on . The rubber washer inside the fitting does the sealing and not the tape ! The easier the fitting screws on the better the seal !
I was thinking the same my self as we have just this morning left the Ocean Beach CP "Denmark WA" Various water taps all having PTFE Thread Seal tape on the thread at our hose connection point.
The hose connection thread on a Tap outlet, is a Parallel Thread designed to take the Compression Fitting on the end of the Hose. As Hawke7 says above
It's the Washer inside the Hose end fitting that does the Sealing.
Carrying a few spare washers is a must for me.
The PTFE thread seal tape, and the various other Pipe Fitting Thread seal products are designed to work on Tapered Threads usually
LoL
Juergen
maybe they are scottish, to be sure ;to be sure; to be sure.LOL
I've been using these for the past couple of years, great product, no tape needed.
http://www.hoselink.com.au/garden_hose_connections?gclid=CN-9wL7Fu74CFRNwvAod9qIAMQ
G'day all haters of the Teflon Tape on tap nut threads!
It's all OK I found a bloke using it in a park a few months ago and decided to approach him and explain that if the washer is in good nick you are wasting time and money using tape.
Or even if the washer is gone it's still a waste of time.
I even offered him a spare washer.
Well, he gave me a lesson in manners, plumbing and aerobics, advising me that I should place my head in what I would consider a rather difficult position although I didn't try it.
After all, you don't have to try everything to know it's not possible, or comfortable.
So now as frustrating as it is watching someone put the tape on, in future I'll just watch - or maybe not!
Keith....
Some will never learn & the rest can't be told.
just do what I do
get out my die nut run it up the thread
cleans it off real easy screw on connection all good
Gromet you are a genius
what is the thread and what size die nut do I need please?
frank
You need two - BSP ¾" and 1" - The ¾" one fits ½" taps and the 1" one fits ¾" taps.
British Standard Pipe
Just be sure they are BSPP (Parallel) and NOT BSPT (Taper)
I will have a look see if I can get them locally.
frank
Actually, "PTFE" thread seal Tape, also has lubricating properties in it, to allow "Tapered" threads to be pulled up tight for better sealing.
It's use on the Taps we are talking about should not usually be necessary.
One problem that can arise from this practice, is the tape when it is put on badly or gets frayed. Small pieces get detached and are washed through the hose into the system. These bits of PTFE can then get trapped in the seats of E.g. Non Return valves, Pressure Regulators, Filters, Taps and other plumbing gear, preventing it sometimes from working correctly.
How often have I come across problems in fluid and pneumatic systems that are faulty. The culprit is found to be a tiny piece of PTFE tape trapped in the seat of a valve unit.
-- Edited by elliemike on Monday 26th of May 2014 07:44:38 PM
easier to use teflon tape than carry stock and die nuts about
worked with plumbers for years always used this tape on threads
we called it thread tape
suenray
The problem if you change over to hoselink is that some of the newer parks have the tap that already has the click on adapter as part of the tap, tho maybe there is an adaptor that can click onto the tap so you can then use the hoselink fitting.
Cheers
David
Works great on fittings where it is required.. But just a PITA on tap threads where the washer in the hose fitting does the sealing.
We call it a PITA ;)
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Sunday 20th of July 2014 09:09:52 AM
Taj, The point is that whoever use the Plumbers Tape/Teflon Tape/Thread Tape are using it in an attempt to stop the leak that is caused by not using the washer and are not maintaining their equipment properly.
From the amount of teflon tape used for this purpose I would guess that it would be cheaper to carry a small packet of the washers. The last small pack I bought came with the "O" rings for the click on end as well which you can see leaking on many vans on a walk around the park.
I've never seen a damaged tap thread in a van park so why the tape (or stock and die nuts)?
Keith....