i am going to fit 20lt fuel containers to the A frame of the van alongside the 9.5lt gas cylinders , question is plastic or steel ,i have seen a lot of different types
any recommendations of what type might be best ,the van is not an off road van ,
03_troopy said
06:06 PM May 6, 2014
For Diesel I think plastic is OK, but for petrol I'd rather use steel.
justcruisin01 said
07:30 PM May 6, 2014
03_troopy wrote:
For Diesel I think plastic is OK, but for petrol I'd rather use steel.
The steel ones these days are crap as well, thin & made china possibily.
Had one & it cracked at the edge of the stiffening pressings on the side the second time I used it.
Plastic petrol swell that much that they are difficult to remove even when the pressure has been released.
The old ex army ones are the best if you can find them.
JC.
deverall11 said
07:45 PM May 6, 2014
Yep, like JC said ex-army one are the only metal ones worth using.
03_troopy said
07:54 PM May 6, 2014
Not having used a Jerry Can for petrol for over 20 years, Yes I agree with both of the previous posts. We didn't have Chinese Jerry's back then.
SnowT said
10:12 PM May 6, 2014
hiya and Welcome --
Has the Draw bar been designed to take the extra weight of the fuel can....?
Juergen
JustJim said
08:02 AM May 7, 2014
Justcruisin01 said.. 'The steel ones these days are crap as well, thin & made china possibily.'
That statement is only half true.
There are crappy Jerrycans on the market - made in Asia.. They do not carry any approval sticker.
But if you buy Proquip Jerrycans you'll have the best quality.Proquip Jerrycans are made in Europe. Proquip jerrycans comply with Australian Standard AS2906-2001.
Look for the approval sticker on the jerrycan.
Proquip have a decent sized breather tube and are lined internally to eliminate rust. Olive yellow is the recommended colour for diesel. http://www.proquip.com.au/ProductPages/JerryCans/MetalJerryCans.html If you compare the approved type with the non-approved you can see the difference.
With reasonable care - a quality steel jerrycan will last you 25 years or more.
thanks everyone good info all-round, have emailed pro quip to find out who stocks them in adelaide regards scooner
Aus-Kiwi said
12:48 PM May 7, 2014
We use the good ole outboard fuel tanks.. My old motorhome uses an Evinrude fuel tank withal the primer, filter, breather included.. I figure marine quality is the best you can get ! Oh btw its a plastic tank too..
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 7th of May 2014 01:02:36 PM
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 7th of May 2014 01:03:32 PM
native pepper said
01:00 PM May 7, 2014
Fishermen down here use beer kegs for their outboard fuel, almost bomb proof stainless steel. You can get those proquip jerry cans at most auto parts and hardware places around the country. We still have an ex army for carrying BD in for the last 30 years and a couple of proquip, had to renew the rubber gasket in the spout of the army one a couple of times, but that's it.
-- Edited by native pepper on Wednesday 7th of May 2014 01:03:02 PM
Legendts said
06:33 PM May 7, 2014
Just be aware that the yellow Sceptre plastic ones are "fatter" than the steel as I bought one and it does not fit into my holder where some plastic and all steel ones do. I have a green plastic 20 litre water jerry and it's fine.
Casey said
12:23 PM May 9, 2014
I can't imagine why anyone would buy marine fuel tanks or beer barrels to fit on a caravan drawbar when all the holders are designed for jerrycans. I'd think twice about using those items with a van or trailer even if I had them, as jerrycans are so safe and easy to use. It's best if the 20 litre jerrycan holders are a good design with padding and hold the steel cans nice and snug with no movement. The locking bar should cover the filler and lock them tight.No movement and padding means no wear or rub though on the jerrycans. But this also means the 20 litre plastic fuel cans won't fit as they are slightly larger.
A while ago Repco had a special on Proquip 10 litre Jerrycans, at just on half the price of 20 litre cans, so I bought eight of them instead of four 20 litre ones. Ten litre cans are so much easier to handle than the larger 20 litre cans, you just need the right secure space to store them, which I have along the inside of my trailer. I also have four external 20 litre jerrycan holders, two on my Hilux and two on the trailer, which have bars over the top to lock them in and cover the fillers. Its not unknown for fuel to be syphoned out of Jerrycans while still locked in holders if the fillers are uncovered. I didn't know about the five year life on plastic fuel cans, but taking note of the advice on Proquip's website, if I had a plastic marine tank I'd be checking to see if the five year life applies to plastic marine tanks as well. Charlie
Aus-Kiwi said
08:19 PM May 14, 2014
Didn't realise op has jerry can holders ?? Good suggestions . Not too sure about a fuel so close to gas cylinders also ?? I would have them each side or some barrier as some firewall ?
hi all
i am going to fit 20lt fuel containers to the A frame of the van alongside the 9.5lt gas cylinders , question is plastic or steel ,i have seen a lot of different types
any recommendations of what type might be best ,the van is not an off road van ,
The steel ones these days are crap as well, thin & made china possibily.
Had one & it cracked at the edge of the stiffening pressings on the side the second time I used it.
Plastic petrol swell that much that they are difficult to remove even when the pressure has been released.
The old ex army ones are the best if you can find them.
JC.
Has the Draw bar been designed to take the extra weight of the fuel can....?
Juergen
Justcruisin01 said..
'The steel ones these days are crap as well, thin & made china possibily.'
That statement is only half true.
There are crappy Jerrycans on the market - made in Asia.. They do not carry any approval sticker.
But if you buy Proquip Jerrycans you'll have the best quality. Proquip Jerrycans are made in Europe.
Proquip jerrycans comply with Australian Standard AS2906-2001.
Look for the approval sticker on the jerrycan.
Proquip have a decent sized breather tube and are lined internally to eliminate rust.
Olive yellow is the recommended colour for diesel.
http://www.proquip.com.au/ProductPages/JerryCans/MetalJerryCans.html
If you compare the approved type with the non-approved you can see the difference.
With reasonable care - a quality steel jerrycan will last you 25 years or more.
It's not generally known, but plastic Jerrycans have a recommended life of five years.
See the notice on the left hand column on this website page..
http://www.proquip.com.au/ProductPages/JerryCans/JerryCanMan.html
Jim
We use the good ole outboard fuel tanks.. My old motorhome uses an Evinrude fuel tank withal the primer, filter, breather included..
I figure marine quality is the best you can get ! Oh btw its a plastic tank too..
Similar to.. http://www.arnoldsboatshop.com.au/fuel-tank-227l-and-gauge-rwb4593/dp/22487
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 7th of May 2014 01:02:36 PM
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 7th of May 2014 01:03:32 PM
Fishermen down here use beer kegs for their outboard fuel, almost bomb proof stainless steel. You can get those proquip jerry cans at most auto parts and hardware places around the country. We still have an ex army for carrying BD in for the last 30 years and a couple of proquip, had to renew the rubber gasket in the spout of the army one a couple of times, but that's it.
-- Edited by native pepper on Wednesday 7th of May 2014 01:03:02 PM
I can't imagine why anyone would buy marine fuel tanks or beer barrels to fit on a caravan drawbar when all the holders are designed for jerrycans.
I'd think twice about using those items with a van or trailer even if I had them, as jerrycans are so safe and easy to use.
It's best if the 20 litre jerrycan holders are a good design with padding and hold the steel cans nice and snug with no movement. The locking bar should cover the filler and lock them tight. No movement and padding means no wear or rub though on the jerrycans.
But this also means the 20 litre plastic fuel cans won't fit as they are slightly larger.
A while ago Repco had a special on Proquip 10 litre Jerrycans, at just on half the price of 20 litre cans, so I bought eight of them instead of four 20 litre ones.
Ten litre cans are so much easier to handle than the larger 20 litre cans, you just need the right secure space to store them, which I have along the inside of my trailer.
I also have four external 20 litre jerrycan holders, two on my Hilux and two on the trailer, which have bars over the top to lock them in and cover the fillers. Its not unknown for fuel to be syphoned out of Jerrycans while still locked in holders if the fillers are uncovered.
I didn't know about the five year life on plastic fuel cans, but taking note of the advice on Proquip's website, if I had a plastic marine tank I'd be checking to see if the five year life applies to plastic marine tanks as well.
Charlie