Our prayers are with the missing souls and their relatives and friends.
milo said
03:42 PM Mar 8, 2014
that does not sound good.. some Aussie's too on board...
Bryan said
06:24 PM Mar 8, 2014
Very sad.
Vic41 said
07:35 PM Mar 8, 2014
Sad news indeed.
kiwijims said
08:06 PM Mar 8, 2014
"OH FLAMIN GREAT" I've just returned from the Airport,
where I saw my Son off on a flight to Sydney.
Now turning on the computer I read of a lost Air-liner,
I sure feel sorry for all the people on board and for all the families,
who await to hear what all are probably dreading right now.
Wish my Son would ring to say they have arrived alright. !!
K.J.
Big Gorilla said
07:29 AM Mar 11, 2014
The loss of this aircraft is unbelievable. The fact there is no wreckage found, no transmissions from Transponders and ELTBs leads me to believe, and I'll stick my neck out here, this aircraft has been hijacked. It's probably sitting on the desert sand in Afghanistan or some other Islamic country...
Sheba said
09:44 PM Mar 11, 2014
Saw just how slack Security on board was, tonight on "A Current Affair." A young girl who is in Australia at the moment was taken into the Cabin with her girlfriend, on the same Airline, when they were there recently. They stayed there from Take-off, to Landing. One of the Pilots is on the Plane that's missing. She had good Photos of him.
You could very well be right BG. One of the guys using one of the stolen Passports, has been trying to get to Germany. According to latest news reports, he is an Iranian Asylum Seeker.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Tuesday 11th of March 2014 10:48:15 PM
Big Gorilla said
07:24 AM Mar 12, 2014
I watched the Current Affairs program which featured the two young girls invited to the Flight Deck by the Malayasian Airlines crew. This action by the crew was a flagrant breach of operational security. You would not think that 2 young ladies on the Flight Deck would cause a security problem, it doesnt really, but it does cause an operational problem. The aircraft would have been on Auto Pilot with a Flight Management System controlling the aircraft navigation, but it is the Crews responsibility to monitor the instruments and progress of the flight. A bit hard to do if your hand is under some young ladys dress !! The same two Pilots dont always work together. The Captain of this particular flight was not the Captain of the missing aircraft. This Captain will be severely reprimanded, either fired or demoted to First Officer for a year or 2.
The two passengers with stolen Passports seem to have been discarded as suspects in the disappearance. One person, an Iranian was 19 years old and travelling to Amsterdam to meet up with his mother. No details have been released yet on the second guy.
If the radar paint showed the aircraft turning some 2 hours after take off, it could also be descending. Flying at 300 feet above the sea would be hairy but the aircraft would not be detectable by radar. The aircraft also carried some 6 ½ hours of fuel, plus statutory reserves, say 8 hours of fuel. If after 2 hours of flight the aircraft was diverted by a hijack, it could only fly about 5 hours before running out of fuel. I havent checked the maps but Im sure Afghanistan would be within range. Im still sticking to my theory the aircraft was hijacked. I maybe wrong but if it has been hijacked, there is a good chance all on board are still alive.for now anyway..
Bryan said
09:53 AM Mar 12, 2014
I heard on the radio this morning on the way to work that radar showed the plane way off course and heading further away. As it was more than 30 minutes ago I can't remember the distances given. I just wonder why this did not raise alarm bells at the time or why did it take so long to be made public.
Baz421 said
10:52 AM Mar 12, 2014
Bryan wrote:
I heard on the radio this morning on the way to work that radar showed the plane way off course and heading further away. As it was more than 30 minutes ago I can't remember the distances given. I just wonder why this did not raise alarm bells at the time or why did it take so long to be made public.
I don't think it was civil ATC that saw this, due to range issue. I think it would be the military air defence radar (IADS - the 5 power defence regime) as they look over a much longer distance.
dorian said
08:00 AM Mar 14, 2014
Apparently Chinese satellites spotted something that looked like wreckage in the ocean, but the Chinese authorities didn't inform anyone until 4 days later. Subsequently they decided that it was all a mistake. ISTM that the investigation is all just a big screwup.
Earlier, search planes found no trace of the plane near the site where Chinese satellites spotted three large "floating objects" in the sea. China said one of its satellites detected three objects in a region of the South China Sea where it suspects the plane crashed. The pictures were taken on March 9 at 11:00am, the day after the plane went missing, but were only published on a Chinese government website overnight. However, at the briefing Mr Hishammuddin said China had told Malaysia that satellite photos released on the website of a Chinese state oceanic agency, were released "by mistake and did not show any debris". The Chinese agency's images had prompted Malaysia and Vietnam to dispatch planes to the area in question in the South China Sea to hunt for the suspect objects. "The publication of the images on the website is an accident," Mr Hishammuddin said, relating a statement he said he had received from China's ambassador to Malaysia. He said the Chinese government did not endorse the action and was investigating.
-- Edited by dorian on Friday 14th of March 2014 08:04:15 AM
Big Gorilla said
04:41 PM Mar 15, 2014
Investigators conclude missing jet was hijacked, Malaysian official says
http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysia-airlines-plane-missing-with-227-passengers-on-board-20140308-hvgnx.html
Several passengers are Australian...
Latest: 7 Australians and 2 Kiwis on board...
-- Edited by Big Gorilla on Saturday 8th of March 2014 02:36:20 PM
For those interested, these two sites give more information>
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-mh370-contact-lost.html
Sad news indeed.
"OH FLAMIN GREAT" I've just returned from the Airport,
where I saw my Son off on a flight to Sydney.
Now turning on the computer I read of a lost Air-liner,
I sure feel sorry for all the people on board and for all the families,
who await to hear what all are probably dreading right now.
Wish my Son would ring to say they have arrived alright. !!
K.J.
The loss of this aircraft is unbelievable. The fact there is no wreckage found, no transmissions from Transponders and ELTBs leads me to believe, and I'll stick my neck out here, this aircraft has been hijacked. It's probably sitting on the desert sand in Afghanistan or some other Islamic country...
Saw just how slack Security on board was, tonight on "A Current Affair." A young girl who is in Australia at the moment was taken into the Cabin with her girlfriend, on the same Airline, when they were there recently. They stayed there from Take-off, to Landing. One of the Pilots is on the Plane that's missing. She had good Photos of him.
You could very well be right BG. One of the guys using one of the stolen Passports, has been trying to get to Germany. According to latest news reports, he is an Iranian Asylum Seeker.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Tuesday 11th of March 2014 10:48:15 PM
I watched the Current Affairs program which featured the two young girls invited to the Flight Deck by the Malayasian Airlines crew. This action by the crew was a flagrant breach of operational security. You would not think that 2 young ladies on the Flight Deck would cause a security problem, it doesnt really, but it does cause an operational problem. The aircraft would have been on Auto Pilot with a Flight Management System controlling the aircraft navigation, but it is the Crews responsibility to monitor the instruments and progress of the flight. A bit hard to do if your hand is under some young ladys dress !! The same two Pilots dont always work together. The Captain of this particular flight was not the Captain of the missing aircraft. This Captain will be severely reprimanded, either fired or demoted to First Officer for a year or 2.
The two passengers with stolen Passports seem to have been discarded as suspects in the disappearance. One person, an Iranian was 19 years old and travelling to Amsterdam to meet up with his mother. No details have been released yet on the second guy.
If the radar paint showed the aircraft turning some 2 hours after take off, it could also be descending. Flying at 300 feet above the sea would be hairy but the aircraft would not be detectable by radar. The aircraft also carried some 6 ½ hours of fuel, plus statutory reserves, say 8 hours of fuel. If after 2 hours of flight the aircraft was diverted by a hijack, it could only fly about 5 hours before running out of fuel. I havent checked the maps but Im sure Afghanistan would be within range. Im still sticking to my theory the aircraft was hijacked. I maybe wrong but if it has been hijacked, there is a good chance all on board are still alive.for now anyway..
I don't think it was civil ATC that saw this, due to range issue. I think it would be the military air defence radar (IADS - the 5 power defence regime) as they look over a much longer distance.
Apparently Chinese satellites spotted something that looked like wreckage in the ocean, but the Chinese authorities didn't inform anyone until 4 days later. Subsequently they decided that it was all a mistake. ISTM that the investigation is all just a big screwup.
www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-13/malaysia-airlines-mh370-deny-plane-flew-hours-after-contact/5319716
Earlier, search planes found no trace of the plane near the site where Chinese satellites spotted three large "floating objects" in the sea. China said one of its satellites detected three objects in a region of the South China Sea where it suspects the plane crashed. The pictures were taken on March 9 at 11:00am, the day after the plane went missing, but were only published on a Chinese government website overnight. However, at the briefing Mr Hishammuddin said China had told Malaysia that satellite photos released on the website of a Chinese state oceanic agency, were released "by mistake and did not show any debris". The Chinese agency's images had prompted Malaysia and Vietnam to dispatch planes to the area in question in the South China Sea to hunt for the suspect objects. "The publication of the images on the website is an accident," Mr Hishammuddin said, relating a statement he said he had received from China's ambassador to Malaysia. He said the Chinese government did not endorse the action and was investigating.
-- Edited by dorian on Friday 14th of March 2014 08:04:15 AM
Investigators conclude missing jet was hijacked, Malaysian official says
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fgw-wn-malaysia-plane-hijacking-20140314,0,356436.story#axzz2w0U9PnM9