Found this on Ebay - remember days of old when in Sydney, Mr Condy the boss of Bunnerong powerhouse would call a strike and you'd have no power - then it was out with the Primus, pump her up, fill the little container under the burner with metho and light it, wait till it nearly went our and then turn the flow knob and.....heat. Sometime if the jet wasn't pricked it would erupt in flames.
So now they have them again but now you can run them on kero, petrol, propane, diesel etc. Dunno how they do that! Price is right but not sure of the safety.
I would think that this stove would be very dicey to use when running on petrol.
But why bother with a stove like this when a butane stove using Butane disposable cylinders is much more safer and convenient.
Cheers
David
Baz421 said
10:02 PM Feb 24, 2014
Roving-Dutchy wrote:
I would think that this stove would be very dicey to use when running on petrol. But why bother with a stove like this when a butane stove using Butane disposable cylinders is much more safer and convenient. Cheers David
Agree 100%,, plus the petrol side is probably illegal in Oz,,, just guessing,, someone in the know,,, - will know!!!!!!
Edit - forgot to say the jet or metering for petrol and kero would be very different I would think.
-- Edited by Baz421 on Monday 24th of February 2014 10:04:23 PM
Tim thetruckie said
11:19 PM Feb 24, 2014
I would be very wary of the above they reckon it can run on kero ,petrol,diesel ,butane ,etc
I have used both a 2 burner and a single burner Coleman dual fuel ,( Shellite and Unleaded ) for years without any problems .
Liquid fuel pressure stoves never went away, MSR and Optimus make them, mostly in a different design with the pump and fuel bottle separate from the stove, sold to travellers, hikers and mountaineers. Liquid fuel pressure types are the most effective stove at high altitudes, and shellite has a higher energy density than metho so it reduces the weight of fuel you have to carry. The multi-fuel versions ship with different jets which you may have to change out if you change fuel; my Optimus Explorer 11 (long out of production, the Nova replaced it) came with three different jets with different sized apertures. It has a spiffy built-in cleaning needle that can be operated even while the stove is running. It's my day-to-day cooker, which I prime with metho and run on shellite to minimise soot. The Hiker is their self-contained model, an heirloom but at more than twice the price of @Timthetruckie's Coleman.
As to how this one runs on gas fuels as well as liquid ones, in the case of this example I think I'd rather not know. Having had even an MSR pump catch fire on me (after which I switched to Optimus for their metal pump and greater durability generally) I would never buy a cheaply made pressure stove.
goannaway said
04:37 PM Feb 25, 2014
I was at Stockton lake near Collie WA last Thursday and one of the butane cylinders (possibly not in the stove but believed to be near it) exploded injuring 4 people, even though to use the unit is considered safe, care must be used in regard to the use and storage of cylinders.
hako said
09:12 PM Feb 25, 2014
goannaway wrote:
I was at Stockton lake near Collie WA last Thursday and one of the butane cylinders (possibly not in the stove but believed to be near it) exploded injuring 4 people, even though to use the unit is considered safe, care must be used in regard to the use and storage of cylinders.
I guess you're referring to the camping stoves that sell for about $14.95 and take the throw-away gas cylinders. I have one of those that I use on picnics and I'd be very interested in what to watch out for when using these units. I've heard of them catching fire when the cylinder was incorrectly installed but not of them exploding but it must be possible. They must have sold millions of those units so you'd have to expect a few 'incidents'.
Found this on Ebay - remember days of old when in Sydney, Mr Condy the boss of Bunnerong powerhouse would call a strike and you'd have no power - then it was out with the Primus, pump her up, fill the little container under the burner with metho and light it, wait till it nearly went our and then turn the flow knob and.....heat. Sometime if the jet wasn't pricked it would erupt in flames.
So now they have them again but now you can run them on kero, petrol, propane, diesel etc. Dunno how they do that! Price is right but not sure of the safety.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/multi-fuel-camping-stove-Kerosene-Gasoline-Gas-Propane-Petrol-outdoor-Stove/321227347477?_trksid=p2047675.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D333005%26algo%3DRIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D177%26meid%3D5056245027656235455%26pid%3D100009%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D291080021826%26
But why bother with a stove like this when a butane stove using Butane disposable cylinders is much more safer and convenient.
Cheers
David
Agree 100%,, plus the petrol side is probably illegal in Oz,,, just guessing,, someone in the know,,, - will know!!!!!!
Edit - forgot to say the jet or metering for petrol and kero would be very different I would think.
-- Edited by Baz421 on Monday 24th of February 2014 10:04:23 PM
I would be very wary of the above they reckon it can run on kero ,petrol,diesel ,butane ,etc
I have used both a 2 burner and a single burner Coleman dual fuel ,( Shellite and Unleaded ) for years without any problems .
http://www.colemanaustralia.com.au/Products/0601/dual-fuel-stoves
Liquid fuel pressure stoves never went away, MSR and Optimus make them, mostly in a different design with the pump and fuel bottle separate from the stove, sold to travellers, hikers and mountaineers. Liquid fuel pressure types are the most effective stove at high altitudes, and shellite has a higher energy density than metho so it reduces the weight of fuel you have to carry. The multi-fuel versions ship with different jets which you may have to change out if you change fuel; my Optimus Explorer 11 (long out of production, the Nova replaced it) came with three different jets with different sized apertures. It has a spiffy built-in cleaning needle that can be operated even while the stove is running. It's my day-to-day cooker, which I prime with metho and run on shellite to minimise soot. The Hiker is their self-contained model, an heirloom but at more than twice the price of @Timthetruckie's Coleman.
As to how this one runs on gas fuels as well as liquid ones, in the case of this example I think I'd rather not know. Having had even an MSR pump catch fire on me (after which I switched to Optimus for their metal pump and greater durability generally) I would never buy a cheaply made pressure stove.
I was at Stockton lake near Collie WA last Thursday and one of the butane cylinders (possibly not in the stove but believed to be near it) exploded injuring 4 people, even though to use the unit is considered safe, care must be used in regard to the use and storage of cylinders.
I guess you're referring to the camping stoves that sell for about $14.95 and take the throw-away gas cylinders. I have one of those that I use on picnics and I'd be very interested in what to watch out for when using these units. I've heard of them catching fire when the cylinder was incorrectly installed but not of them exploding but it must be possible. They must have sold millions of those units so you'd have to expect a few 'incidents'.
Regards