We have found out in Sth Aust they do not have a registration code for Motorhome over 4.5 ton
If it is a Winabago type they are registered as a Ridged Truck
If its a Coaster type they are registered as a Bus
And on both papers its still says they are a caravan type
But the codes do not match the vehicle description
Our last MH which we sold last year was registered as a 2B2 @ $181 for 3 mths (Caravan Type)
Our new MH is a bit bigger and was registered as a 2B3 @ $499 for 3 mths with out of areas concession(Caravan Type)
the reason for this is they DO NOT HAVE A CODE for Motorhomes over 4.5ton in Sth Australia
But now with a fair bit of jumping up and down they have now registered our MH as a 2R3 making it a 3 Axle Ridged
Truck, but still the rego papers say its a Caravan Type Vehicle
@ $381 for 3 mths or $1428 Yr
Now we will have to stop at Weigh Bridges and carry a log book.
I hope we are not the only ones with this problem because it needs to be rectified by the Transport Minister.
This effects everyone in SA with a Motorhome.
Others have registered theirs in other states because its cheaper.
We have contacted our Ombudsman and he has suggested that the CMCA approach the minister as a club.
Bear in mind the codes dictate the price of the vehicle registration.
mainworry said
04:28 PM Feb 20, 2014
Motor home in NSW is exempt log book requirements (must be registered as a MOTOR HOME also exempt checking stations) With the Safety Cam systems a photo of your number plate will be captured and a cross reference with the relevant jurisdiction records will be instantly completed if the vehicle is not registered as a MOTOR HOME you will receive in the mail a "please explain" and this will be costly...the same if the registration has expired. By the way there is National H/Vehicle regs in force now so with any luck this will hopefully standardise things a little for the heavy vehicle class of vehicles Hope this helps.....
-- Edited by mainworry on Thursday 20th of February 2014 04:32:01 PM
Holdsy said
04:55 PM Feb 20, 2014
Thats our main worry, We head off early march...SA if different from other states
Nelly said
06:59 PM Feb 20, 2014
Do you have to have a different licence for this also?
Holdsy said
07:42 PM Feb 20, 2014
Hi Nelly
You will require a Heavy Rigid license but if you are towing a trailer you may require a Articulated License
mainworry said
08:10 PM Feb 20, 2014
All depends on the GVM of the vehicle also the number of axles to determine the class of licence which is a national one (the same across all states and territories.) Regards and enjoy
Baz421 said
08:34 PM Feb 20, 2014
I think you are confusing two issues here.
Firstly if you bus was originally a bus it will have a compliance plate fitted that starts with M as vehicle ADR category.
Other "registration codes" are for body type I think.
This is from there website: quote
A motorhome includes a campervan and any other motor vehicle specifically designed to incorporate living amenities, cooking facilities and accommodation.
Unquote.
Your bus, I assume was designed as a bus originally and not a motorhome.
Baz421 said
08:40 PM Feb 20, 2014
Baz421 wrote:
I think you are confusing two issues here.
Firstly if you bus was originally a bus it will have a compliance plate fitted that starts with M as vehicle ADR category.
Other "registration codes" are for body type I think.
This is from there website: quote
A motorhome includes a campervan and any other motor vehicle specifically designed to incorporate living amenities, cooking facilities and accommodation.
Unquote.
Your bus, I assume was designed as a bus originally and not a motorhome.
Missed some off sorry,,,, 2R3 means a tandem axle rigid vehicle (which a bus is technically,,, but with a bus body) and if it is fitted with a road friendly suspension it may be approved for a higher vehicle mass ie GVM,, provided it is operated without a trailer.
Baz421 said
08:45 PM Feb 20, 2014
your bus would be ADR category ME =
ME HEAVY OMNIBUS - An omnibus with a Gross Vehicle Mass exceeding 5.0 tonnes.
Holdsy said
10:15 PM Feb 20, 2014
Yes it was a bus but is now a motorhome with all the usual bits and peices so it cannot be regod as a passanger carrying vehicle with a rego code to match but in south australia it does not and now they regod mine as a three axle truck this is the problem it is a three axle motorhome with a gvm over 16500 kgs.
deverall11 said
11:43 AM Feb 21, 2014
When will this country operate as one when it comes to vehicle registration, driver license and road rules.
Larry
Holdsy said
04:47 PM Feb 21, 2014
Yes Larry you are right we can travel in any state and even our national licences arnt the same.
RosieW said
06:53 PM Feb 21, 2014
Once we get the bus plated (hurry up DIER!), we can register as it a 6 cylinder vehicle, and pay the same as a 6 cylinder car - around $600 a year I think. As a private bus, it was $1500 per year.
dundreamin said
09:06 AM Feb 23, 2014
I live in SA and bought a Winnebago Blaxland motorhome built with an Isuzu truck motor & chassis.
When I purchased it, I was told that it was able to be driven on a car licence and when I checked the plate it was rated just under the 4.5 tonne (4.490 - how convenient). Looking at the vehicle and having been in the heavy vehicle industry most of my life, I had doubts about the weight rating so I took it over a weigh bridge with very little fuel or water, no gear and no people in it. The result was that it was over weight at 4.960 almost empty.
I went back to the place I purchased it from and showed them the weigh note and told them they could either take it back and return my money or have it re - complianced at their cost. They chose the latter at a cost of approx $800. It now has a GVM of 6.200 & GCM of 7.300. Luckily I have a heavy rigid licence because now it requires a minimum light truck licence to drive it and of course the down side of it was that the registration cost more than doubled. I often go to Caravan & Motorhome shows and see these large motorhomes with big signs on the windscreen - "Drive on Car Licence" and I'll bet that most are overweight especially when all the tanks are full and all the gear is loaded on. I suppose it makes motorhomes are easier to sell if you only need a car licence.
In SA I'm pretty sure you don't need an arctic licence to drive a large bus/motorhome towing a trailer. I used to drive a 49 seater coach occasionally with a trailer and it didn't require an arctic licence. Of course that was while ago and they might have changed the rules since then as they do from time to time.
We have found out in Sth Aust they do not have a registration code for Motorhome over 4.5 ton
If it is a Winabago type they are registered as a Ridged Truck
If its a Coaster type they are registered as a Bus
And on both papers its still says they are a caravan type
But the codes do not match the vehicle description
Our last MH which we sold last year was registered as a 2B2 @ $181 for 3 mths (Caravan Type)
Our new MH is a bit bigger and was registered as a 2B3 @ $499 for 3 mths with out of areas concession(Caravan Type)
the reason for this is they DO NOT HAVE A CODE for Motorhomes over 4.5ton in Sth Australia
But now with a fair bit of jumping up and down they have now registered our MH as a 2R3 making it a 3 Axle Ridged
Truck, but still the rego papers say its a Caravan Type Vehicle
@ $381 for 3 mths or $1428 Yr
Now we will have to stop at Weigh Bridges and carry a log book.
I hope we are not the only ones with this problem because it needs to be rectified by the Transport Minister.
This effects everyone in SA with a Motorhome.
Others have registered theirs in other states because its cheaper.
We have contacted our Ombudsman and he has suggested that the CMCA approach the minister as a club.
Bear in mind the codes dictate the price of the vehicle registration.
Motor home in NSW is exempt log book requirements (must be registered as a MOTOR HOME also exempt checking stations) With the Safety Cam systems a photo of your number plate will be captured and a cross reference with the relevant jurisdiction records will be instantly completed if the vehicle is not registered as a MOTOR HOME you will receive in the mail a "please explain" and this will be costly...the same if the registration has expired. By the way there is National H/Vehicle regs in force now so with any luck this will hopefully standardise things a little for the heavy vehicle class of vehicles
Hope this helps.....
-- Edited by mainworry on Thursday 20th of February 2014 04:32:01 PM
Thats our main worry, We head off early march...SA if different from other states
You will require a Heavy Rigid license but if you are towing a trailer you may require a Articulated License
I think you are confusing two issues here.
Firstly if you bus was originally a bus it will have a compliance plate fitted that starts with M as vehicle ADR category.
Other "registration codes" are for body type I think.
This is from there website: quote
A motorhome includes a campervan and any other motor vehicle specifically designed to incorporate living amenities, cooking facilities and accommodation.
Unquote.
Your bus, I assume was designed as a bus originally and not a motorhome.
Missed some off sorry,,,, 2R3 means a tandem axle rigid vehicle (which a bus is technically,,, but with a bus body) and if it is fitted with a road friendly suspension it may be approved for a higher vehicle mass ie GVM,, provided it is operated without a trailer.
your bus would be ADR category ME =
ME HEAVY OMNIBUS - An omnibus with a Gross Vehicle Mass exceeding 5.0 tonnes.
Yes it was a bus but is now a motorhome with all the usual bits and peices so it cannot be regod as a passanger carrying vehicle with a rego code to match but in south australia it does not and now they regod mine as a three axle truck this is the problem it is a three axle motorhome with a gvm over 16500 kgs.
Larry
I live in SA and bought a Winnebago Blaxland motorhome built with an Isuzu truck motor & chassis.
When I purchased it, I was told that it was able to be driven on a car licence and when I checked the plate it was rated just under the 4.5 tonne (4.490 - how convenient). Looking at the vehicle and having been in the heavy vehicle industry most of my life, I had doubts about the weight rating so I took it over a weigh bridge with very little fuel or water, no gear and no people in it. The result was that it was over weight at 4.960 almost empty.
I went back to the place I purchased it from and showed them the weigh note and told them they could either take it back and return my money or have it re - complianced at their cost. They chose the latter at a cost of approx $800. It now has a GVM of 6.200 & GCM of 7.300. Luckily I have a heavy rigid licence because now it requires a minimum light truck licence to drive it and of course the down side of it was that the registration cost more than doubled. I often go to Caravan & Motorhome shows and see these large motorhomes with big signs on the windscreen - "Drive on Car Licence" and I'll bet that most are overweight especially when all the tanks are full and all the gear is loaded on. I suppose it makes motorhomes are easier to sell if you only need a car licence.
In SA I'm pretty sure you don't need an arctic licence to drive a large bus/motorhome towing a trailer. I used to drive a 49 seater coach occasionally with a trailer and it didn't require an arctic licence. Of course that was while ago and they might have changed the rules since then as they do from time to time.