A friend posted a video of some extreme weather in the SW of England ,reporting a huge 75 foot wave recorded in the SW English Channel and some footage of the waves hitting different parts of the coast.
At the other end of the English Channel the Old Brighton Pier which was derelict has nearly been washed away.
The whole of England is under extreme flooding alert.
Then reports of snow in Scotland with 33' deep areas. I think the Ruskies would like some of that snow for the Sochi Winter Olympics.
Here in Oz of course we have endless drought and extreme fire danger.
I had heard of the drovers doing The Long Paddock with their cattle but was surprised just how skinny the animals were as I drove down to Victoria from Qld on the Newel Highway.
Whether it's climate change or whatever there are lots of people around doing it tough and there is not a lot we can do about it except give support where we can.
native pepper said
02:40 PM Feb 9, 2014
It's climate change all right and only the very beginning, what is about to befall the human race and other life, is way beyond anything the vast majority can comprehend or even handle. When you realise the human population grew by 1 billion in the last 10 years and in the next 10, will grow by 2-5 billion, then consider we are now using more than 1/3 of arable land to produce meat and by doing this every cow produces 400lt of methane a day, it's a scenario anyone wouldn't like to face.
Add collapsing societies around the planet, never ending prices rises, denatured chemically saturate foods, growing incurable cancers, organ and bone disease caused by these poisons. Along with collapsing ecology, food chains, rivers and underground waters being polluted beyond use. There is no other outcome but total disaster for life on the planet. The dept of denial within ideological humans is astounding, but won't help when reality strikes and as 99% of humans rely fully upon others for their existence, makes one wonder where their minds dwell and how they will cope.
aussietraveller said
07:46 PM Feb 9, 2014
after reading this I don't think I want to be here anymore does anyone know of any other options, our governments are not likely to do anything they don't believe in climate change
Happywanderer said
08:04 PM Feb 9, 2014
The only positive from native pepper's post is we know we won't be around to see it happen.
Pity the future generations coming along behind us.
Jedo_03 said
10:29 PM Feb 9, 2014
native pepper wrote:
It's climate change all right and only the very beginning, what is about to befall the human race and other life, is way beyond anything the vast majority can comprehend or even handle. When you realise the human population grew by 1 billion in the last 10 years and in the next 10, will grow by 2-5 billion, then consider we are now using more than 1/3 of arable land to produce meat and by doing this every cow produces 400lt of methane a day, it's a scenario anyone wouldn't like to face.
Add collapsing societies around the planet, never ending prices rises, denatured chemically saturate foods, growing incurable cancers, organ and bone disease caused by these poisons. Along with collapsing ecology, food chains, rivers and underground waters being polluted beyond use. There is no other outcome but total disaster for life on the planet. The dept of denial within ideological humans is astounding, but won't help when reality strikes and as 99% of humans rely fully upon others for their existence, makes one wonder where their minds dwell and how they will cope.
Relax Mr Pepper... They're not going to kill us. They're only going to TRY and kill us... And that is a very different thing...
native pepper said
07:15 AM Feb 10, 2014
I'm pretty relaxed about it and well prepared. Been following this science for more than 40 years and have see the dramatic changes over those years every where we travel. Always thought we wouldn't be around to see it happen. Now, it's a certainty if you live through to 2020, you'll be right in the middle of the collapse. The science I've read doesn't relate to what people think will happen and the time line involved.
People expect it to be a slow process which they will be able to see and cope with. But what the science says, we will witness dramatic weather events and suddenly the planets food chain and ecology will collapse extremely rapidly. Already the most important aspect of the food chain is in the last stages of complete collapse and that's bees and other pollinators. They pollinate 85% of all our foods and they are disappearing around the planet, as they are poisoned by chemicals, destroyed by microwave and wireless transmissions.
Then add, just 3 of the 7.6 million fishing companies around the planet take out 2 million tonnes of sea food a day from the sea. Science calculates the total sea catch per day is over 6 million tonnes and and increasing daily. Completely unsustainable in the short term.
Forget pollution, or anything else, it's the unseen calamity rushing towards us, that will bring humanity to its knees in a very short time.
One look at the dysfunctional, elitist and destructive governance systems around the planet and the direction they are taking us, shows there is only one conclusion to be reached from this approach and it ain't pretty.
Then add 99.9% of humans are in complete denial of the reality, continue with their approach in the empty hope someone else will fix the problem. What other conclusion be reached.
-- Edited by native pepper on Monday 10th of February 2014 07:20:14 AM
Kooroorinya Kelpie said
07:20 AM Feb 10, 2014
Hi all. I woke and arose at 0330, my normal get up time, made a coffee and thought to myself ' another glorious, splendid, not to be missed day in this great country of ours. Sitting in the office with my coffee, rolled a smoke and while having my coffee and enjoying my first heart starter of the day I contemplated the joys the day was going too bring, watching the sunrise, greeting my lovely wife in a couple of hours, being greeted and fussed over by my two four legged mates Dot and Yip, anticipating the visit by the mail man and thinking about the rewiring I am part way through on the Motorhome. Yeah Mate life is bloody good. Still a good while til sunrise so I'll read the news online, and wouldn't you know it, there is no good news just the reports on the Vic bush fires and masses of non event detritus. Then decided to have a look at my favourite website, YES the GN Forum. Opened this thread and read Native Peppers' post and my whole world collapsed in a great jelly like heap at my feet. My mind was numbed by the revelations to which I had been brutally and mercilessly exposed. Being a bit of a knockabout bloke whose life has not been in any way been pampered, sheltered from reality or otherwise delicately lived I couldn't but wonder ' have I missed something on the way to where I am now'. No that's not it, did I , unknowingly, do a Rip van Winkle imitation, No. Confusion reigned supreme for as long as it took me to roll another smoke and gather my scrambled thoughts when my attention was caught by a mob of cattle wandering down the back fence line. My smoke befuddled mind realised that, as my contribution to the world, I should go out with my trusty rifle and shoot all of those beasts which would instantly stop them sh****ng and thereby producing evil, nasty methane and as an added bonus no one would have to eat their horrible, carcinogenic meat. I thought about this, but only briefly, before realising that if I, even partly, contributed to the salvation of the human race then I would cease to be a member of the human race as those cattle are worth $600 each and I reckon in short order the Boss ****y would do unto me as I done unto his cattle. Bu**er, this is not shaping up at all well so roll another smoke and think about it. I then recalled the village we left behind 12 months ago when we went full time on the road and says to myself "In that very well balanced community there were two prevalent opinions frequently expressed. One half of the population would walk around saying 'the world ends tomorrow' while the other half shuffled around saying 'the world ended yesterday'. I reckon I'll just roll another smoke, go out and watch the sunrise then have my bacon, beef sausages and a couple of cholesterol inducing eggs for brekkie and then get on with LIVING my life. Must make a note to get NP a get well card next time I go for supplies. Cheers.
jules47 said
09:15 AM Feb 10, 2014
It's the old "glass half full" syndrome - what we have to think is that we have gotten to the age we are, it is time to enjoy it, ok do your bit for the environment and other human beings, but LIVE YOUR LIFE - ENJOY EVERY DAY OF IT!
As one of the GN's has as her signature - (think it might be from Bob Dylan) "In the rain, some people get wet, others dance in it"!! Be the Dancer!
Rip and Rosie said
09:54 AM Feb 10, 2014
I'm dancing with Tony !
Roving-Dutchy said
02:18 PM Feb 10, 2014
If after reading some of the above posts you feel that you might as well pack it in now, instead, get online and help someone that is a lot worse off, than most of us are,
That $20 buys a bale of hay, helps a farmer out and helps provide us with the ongoing supply of food.
There feel better now.
Oh bugger forgot about all that methane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do it anyway, it wont hurt one bit.
Cheers
David
Mr B2 said
04:27 PM Feb 10, 2014
Methane, Arhhh, That explains it, Our forefathers shot millions of Bison, Deer, Elephants, Etc, And near every thing else that Migrated annually in their millions,
To save us from the Methane those animals produced,
I very much doubt if all those millions of exterminated animals would add up to the amount of Domesticated animals we have now,
I think your farting up the wrong tree,
Australia's weather runs on about an average of 9 years, 9 Wet, 9 Dry, We get floods in the Wet, We get fires in the dry,
As 10 year old, we had 113 Farenheit in Melbourne, 1961, We were heading for an Ice Age within 5 years,
As for the last 20 years, 13 years of it was Drought, No, It wasnt a record breaker, We have had two fifteen year droughts in Victoria since 1860,
The Vikings were growing vegetables in the ground, In Iceland, 900 years ago, Previous Global Warming from all those Migratory animals,
Ta, I think I got it now,
Gerty Dancer said
04:59 PM Feb 10, 2014
As Al Gore said, its an inconvenient truth. Very inconvenient.
A friend posted a video of some extreme weather in the SW of England ,reporting a huge 75 foot wave recorded in the SW English Channel and some footage of the waves hitting different parts of the coast.
At the other end of the English Channel the Old Brighton Pier which was derelict has nearly been washed away.
The whole of England is under extreme flooding alert.
Then reports of snow in Scotland with 33' deep areas. I think the Ruskies would like some of that snow for the Sochi Winter Olympics.
Here in Oz of course we have endless drought and extreme fire danger.
I had heard of the drovers doing The Long Paddock with their cattle but was surprised just how skinny the animals were as I drove down to Victoria from Qld on the Newel Highway.
Whether it's climate change or whatever there are lots of people around doing it tough and there is not a lot we can do about it except give support where we can.
Add collapsing societies around the planet, never ending prices rises, denatured chemically saturate foods, growing incurable cancers, organ and bone disease caused by these poisons. Along with collapsing ecology, food chains, rivers and underground waters being polluted beyond use. There is no other outcome but total disaster for life on the planet. The dept of denial within ideological humans is astounding, but won't help when reality strikes and as 99% of humans rely fully upon others for their existence, makes one wonder where their minds dwell and how they will cope.
Pity the future generations coming along behind us.
Relax Mr Pepper... They're not going to kill us. They're only going to TRY and kill us... And that is a very different thing...
I'm pretty relaxed about it and well prepared. Been following this science for more than 40 years and have see the dramatic changes over those years every where we travel. Always thought we wouldn't be around to see it happen. Now, it's a certainty if you live through to 2020, you'll be right in the middle of the collapse. The science I've read doesn't relate to what people think will happen and the time line involved.
People expect it to be a slow process which they will be able to see and cope with. But what the science says, we will witness dramatic weather events and suddenly the planets food chain and ecology will collapse extremely rapidly. Already the most important aspect of the food chain is in the last stages of complete collapse and that's bees and other pollinators. They pollinate 85% of all our foods and they are disappearing around the planet, as they are poisoned by chemicals, destroyed by microwave and wireless transmissions.
Then add, just 3 of the 7.6 million fishing companies around the planet take out 2 million tonnes of sea food a day from the sea. Science calculates the total sea catch per day is over 6 million tonnes and and increasing daily. Completely unsustainable in the short term.
Forget pollution, or anything else, it's the unseen calamity rushing towards us, that will bring humanity to its knees in a very short time.
One look at the dysfunctional, elitist and destructive governance systems around the planet and the direction they are taking us, shows there is only one conclusion to be reached from this approach and it ain't pretty.
Then add 99.9% of humans are in complete denial of the reality, continue with their approach in the empty hope someone else will fix the problem. What other conclusion be reached.
-- Edited by native pepper on Monday 10th of February 2014 07:20:14 AM
As one of the GN's has as her signature - (think it might be from Bob Dylan) "In the rain, some people get wet, others dance in it"!! Be the Dancer!
I'm dancing with Tony !
If after reading some of the above posts you feel that you might as well pack it in now, instead, get online and help someone that is a lot worse off, than most of us are,
https://www.buyabale.com.au/donate
That $20 buys a bale of hay, helps a farmer out and helps provide us with the ongoing supply of food.
There feel better now.
Oh bugger forgot about all that methane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do it anyway, it wont hurt one bit.
Cheers
David
Methane, Arhhh, That explains it, Our forefathers shot millions of Bison, Deer, Elephants, Etc, And near every thing else that Migrated annually in their millions,
To save us from the Methane those animals produced,
I very much doubt if all those millions of exterminated animals would add up to the amount of Domesticated animals we have now,
I think your farting up the wrong tree,
Australia's weather runs on about an average of 9 years, 9 Wet, 9 Dry, We get floods in the Wet, We get fires in the dry,
As 10 year old, we had 113 Farenheit in Melbourne, 1961, We were heading for an Ice Age within 5 years,
As for the last 20 years, 13 years of it was Drought, No, It wasnt a record breaker, We have had two fifteen year droughts in Victoria since 1860,
The Vikings were growing vegetables in the ground, In Iceland, 900 years ago, Previous Global Warming from all those Migratory animals,
Ta, I think I got it now,