Picking up new van in Melbourne but want it rego-ed in NSW
Rip and Rosie said
08:04 PM Jan 23, 2014
Have found a good deal on a new van in Melbourne, is there any problem asking the dealership to register it in NSW?
brian said
08:16 PM Jan 23, 2014
If you have a friend in Victoria, then get it registered there.
A comparison of costs to register a 20 foot van in both states for your interest:-
1. NSW:- $600 per year registration fee, $60 per year inspection fee, $200 one off cost to fit brake-safe monitor.
2. Victoria:- $ 48 per year registration cost, $0 per year inspection fee, No brake-safe monitor required.
Gerty Dancer said
08:27 PM Jan 23, 2014
We moved to NSW last year and re-registered or caravan here. It was a monumental hassle, due mostly to the ACT dealer who first registered it putting the wrong weight on the rego forms. The compliance plate was correct thankfully.
Brake-safe-monitor is only required over a certain weight. Not sure but think its 2.5 tons.
And the inspection fee is only for the first time you register in NSW.
chris & terry said
08:45 PM Jan 23, 2014
From memory you can get a travel permit, forget the period of compliance, then travel to NSW for registration. You will require an inspection cert. from NSW though. If a pensioner & have a NSW address & have no other vehicle registered in your name the rego is $0.
terry
Bunkerbob said
08:45 PM Jan 23, 2014
All of what Gerty Dancer says are probably right but that doesn't get away from the $600 ever increasing cost to register per year to $47.60 in Victoria. (Might add that Vic Rego is also ever increasing). We have Vic rego, just paid as it is due this month (January). Out van is 22' inside, about 31' overall including A frame and stuff hanging off the back, weighs about 3 tonne. so had the Brake Safe already fitted. My daughter called it our Council Rates. Bless her.
Find a friend in Victoria. If you are nomadic or itinerant or "Of No Fixed Abode", it doesn't matter as long as one of the States registers the van. It would be prudent to also insure it from the same address.
Roving-Dutchy said
10:06 PM Jan 23, 2014
If the van weighs in excess of 2000kg's in NSW it requires a break away monitor and once van is over 5 years old it has to get a rego inspection every year, if it is over 2000kg's it must be done at a heavy vehicle inspection station at a higher cost than the standard pink slip. If you can get it registered in Victoria, get it done there, it will save you endless hassles in the future.
If you are a pensioner couple you can free rego for the van in one name and the car in the other name
Cheers David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Thursday 23rd of January 2014 10:10:00 PM
Gerty Dancer said
09:15 AM Jan 24, 2014
Thanks RD, it looks like we have the joys of inspections ahead of us as our van is 4 years old this year.
Big Gorilla said
09:35 AM Jan 24, 2014
Changing the subject just a little, my MH is an Iveco Daily MWB. Rego in Tasmania is ever increasing and I just paid $677.00 a year. I can't get Pensioner's discount coz I have a car registered with the discount. Any info on how that compares with Victoria. I have a good friend in Melbourne and could use his address. Might even get Pensioner's Discount in a State outside of Tasmania..
Bunkerbob said
09:55 AM Jan 24, 2014
We're talking caravans here. Motor Homes obviously have a power plant normally an Internal Combustion engine. That would preclude it from being classified as a Trailer. IMHO
Pay the fees, Laura's Government needs the money. Car Rego in Vic is north of $720.00 so $677.00 isn't too bad.
Bob
Big Gorilla said
10:15 AM Jan 24, 2014
Bunkerbob wrote:
We're talking caravans here. Motor Homes obviously have a power plant normally an Internal Combustion engine. That would preclude it from being classified as a Trailer. IMHO
Bob
I did say I was "Changing the subject just a little ".....
Rip and Rosie said
12:24 PM Jan 24, 2014
Would the authorities in any state take umbrage that the car was registered in NSW and the van registered in Vic?
Not looking for trouble here.
Big Gorilla said
01:21 PM Jan 24, 2014
Rip and Rosie wrote:
Would the authorities in any state take umbrage that the car was registered in NSW and the van registered in Vic?
Not looking for trouble here.
In Tasmania, and I'm sure it applies in other States, when you first register a vehicle, and when you renew, you are asked if the vehicle is garaged in that State. I have told a little white lie before about this, but the point is irrespective of State of registration, you could be travelling through all States of Australia. Are you expected to change State of registration to the State you are currently in when registration falls due ? Just do it Rip & Rosie...
barina said
01:59 PM Jan 24, 2014
I bought in NSW and could not register it there as my licence was Vic, even though I have a property in NSW.
Herb said
07:55 PM Jan 24, 2014
I have van registered in Sa ( I have SA lic) and landcruiser registered in Vic ( wifes has Vic lic).
Reason: Landcruiser was brought in Victoria, to change it to SA i need to pit it ($120) and pay over $100 for the change in SA office ( dont know what that was for, admin I guess)
the Caravan was brought in SA. I would of had to drive it all the way over border to a VIC testing point and have it checked ($$$$) and then pay a new registration fee to change in Victoria. i also had to get new plates and also the rego still valid in SA was cancelled.
It was cheaper to change my Licence to SA ($50) then change ownership $75 than to take van over border. Rego in SA is alot cheaper than rest of Australia with exception maybe WA.
As for the address issue I just went to a caravan park and got receipt to say I stayed there (listed as my address for COA. For renewals as SA doesnt have window stickers it is all done by email.
moamajohn said
09:24 PM Jan 24, 2014
I now live on the Vic NSW border,but whilst I was still a regular visitor here I visited a solicitors office and explained that my ins was far cheaper on cars if I lived rural.So for a small annual fee his address was mine after I swapped my licence to same and he forwarded my mail on .I seem to recall many semi drivers did it in SA some years ago.Just a thought .
Rip and Rosie said
09:35 PM Jan 24, 2014
It's amazing how complex a simple thing can be.
Dealers sell something with "on road" costs clearly advertised, but only if it is to be registered in the same state. ... which they don't tell you. It would simply be a different phone call or email for them to register it in another state as the client preferred, but not so.
The dealer wants to stay within his comfort zone, and now it seems "on road" means do it yourself when you get home..... But don't stop on the way, and don't dally.
It's a small thing really, but it annoys me.
TAJ said
09:53 PM Jan 24, 2014
we bought our van in Cobram got it weighed and inspected
paid rego all at finley nsw
suenray
brian said
08:55 AM Jan 25, 2014
Rip and Rosie wrote:
It's amazing how complex a simple thing can be. Dealers sell something with "on road" costs clearly advertised, but only if it is to be registered in the same state. ... which they don't tell you. It would simply be a different phone call or email for them to register it in another state as the client preferred, but not so. The dealer wants to stay within his comfort zone, and now it seems "on road" means do it yourself when you get home..... But don't stop on the way, and don't dally.
It's a small thing really, but it annoys me.
That's not quite fair. As has been stated, the registration in NSW is around $700 higher for the same van. If a Victorian dealer was to allow for that in his pricing he would be uncompetitive with his opposition.
Anyone who did not expect that "on road costs" was only applicable in the same state as the item was being sold needs to get a hold of themselves...Or maybe to stop getting a hold of themselves.
As a van needs to be presented for inspection, number checking and sometimes weighing at an office in the state of registration, how would you expect a dealer in Melbourne to do that in NSW or say WA economically?
My tow vehicle is registered in NSW, my van is registered in Vic via a friend's address, Vicroads send the renewal papers directly to my home in NSW.
My insurance company is aware of and comfortable with the arrangement as am I.
rockylizard said
09:27 AM Jan 25, 2014
Gday...
Perhaps one day we will become a Commonwealth of Australia, rather than a collection autonomous colonies.
Cheers - John
Rip and Rosie said
09:48 AM Jan 25, 2014
brian wrote:
Rip and Rosie wrote:
It's amazing how complex a simple thing can be. Dealers sell something with "on road" costs clearly advertised, but only if it is to be registered in the same state. ... which they don't tell you. It would simply be a different phone call or email for them to register it in another state as the client preferred, but not so. The dealer wants to stay within his comfort zone, and now it seems "on road" means do it yourself when you get home..... But don't stop on the way, and don't dally.
It's a small thing really, but it annoys me.
That's not quite fair. As has been stated, the registration in NSW is around $700 higher for the same van. If a Victorian dealer was to allow for that in his pricing he would be uncompetitive with his opposition.
Anyone who did not expect that "on road costs" was only applicable in the same state as the item was being sold needs to get a hold of themselves...Or maybe to stop getting a hold of themselves.
As a van needs to be presented for inspection, number checking and sometimes weighing at an office in the state of registration, how would you expect a dealer in Melbourne to do that in NSW or say WA economically?
My tow vehicle is registered in NSW, my van is registered in Vic via a friend's address, Vicroads send the renewal papers directly to my home in NSW.
My insurance company is aware of and comfortable with the arrangement as am I.
Oh, don't get me me wrong, I'm aware of the differences between state re costs, and would be happy to negotiate the difference......
brian said
10:19 AM Jan 25, 2014
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
Perhaps one day we will become a Commonwealth of Australia, rather than a collection autonomous colonies.
Cheers - John
Gee...I hope not.. You can bet your boots that if ever the states agree to co-ordinate their van registration fees....It won't be at Victorian prices.
Have found a good deal on a new van in Melbourne, is there any problem asking the dealership to register it in NSW?
A comparison of costs to register a 20 foot van in both states for your interest:-
1. NSW:- $600 per year registration fee, $60 per year inspection fee, $200 one off cost to fit brake-safe monitor.
2. Victoria:- $ 48 per year registration cost, $0 per year inspection fee, No brake-safe monitor required.
Brake-safe-monitor is only required over a certain weight. Not sure but think its 2.5 tons.
And the inspection fee is only for the first time you register in NSW.
terry
Find a friend in Victoria. If you are nomadic or itinerant or "Of No Fixed Abode", it doesn't matter as long as one of the States registers the van. It would be prudent to also insure it from the same address.
If the van weighs in excess of 2000kg's in NSW it requires a break away monitor and once van is over 5 years old it has to get a rego inspection every year, if it is over 2000kg's it must be done at a heavy vehicle inspection station at a higher cost than the standard pink slip.
If you can get it registered in Victoria, get it done there, it will save you endless hassles in the future.
If you are a pensioner couple you can free rego for the van in one name and the car in the other name
Cheers
David
-- Edited by Roving-Dutchy on Thursday 23rd of January 2014 10:10:00 PM
Changing the subject just a little, my MH is an Iveco Daily MWB. Rego in Tasmania is ever increasing and I just paid $677.00 a year. I can't get Pensioner's discount coz I have a car registered with the discount. Any info on how that compares with Victoria. I have a good friend in Melbourne and could use his address. Might even get Pensioner's Discount in a State outside of Tasmania..
Pay the fees, Laura's Government needs the money. Car Rego in Vic is north of $720.00 so $677.00 isn't too bad.
Bob
I did say I was "Changing the subject just a little ".....
Not looking for trouble here.
In Tasmania, and I'm sure it applies in other States, when you first register a vehicle, and when you renew, you are asked if the vehicle is garaged in that State. I have told a little white lie before about this, but the point is irrespective of State of registration, you could be travelling through all States of Australia. Are you expected to change State of registration to the State you are currently in when registration falls due ? Just do it Rip & Rosie...
I bought in NSW and could not register it there as my licence was Vic, even though I have a property in NSW.
Reason: Landcruiser was brought in Victoria, to change it to SA i need to pit it ($120) and pay over $100 for the change in SA office ( dont know what that was for, admin I guess)
the Caravan was brought in SA. I would of had to drive it all the way over border to a VIC testing point and have it checked ($$$$) and then pay a new registration fee to change in Victoria. i also had to get new plates and also the rego still valid in SA was cancelled.
It was cheaper to change my Licence to SA ($50) then change ownership $75 than to take van over border. Rego in SA is alot cheaper than rest of Australia with exception maybe WA.
As for the address issue I just went to a caravan park and got receipt to say I stayed there (listed as my address for COA. For renewals as SA doesnt have window stickers it is all done by email.
Dealers sell something with "on road" costs clearly advertised, but only if it is to be registered in the same state. ... which they don't tell you. It would simply be a different phone call or email for them to register it in another state as the client preferred, but not so.
The dealer wants to stay within his comfort zone, and now it seems "on road" means do it yourself when you get home..... But don't stop on the way, and don't dally.
It's a small thing really, but it annoys me.
we bought our van in Cobram got it weighed and inspected
paid rego all at finley nsw
suenray
That's not quite fair. As has been stated, the registration in NSW is around $700 higher for the same van. If a Victorian dealer was to allow for that in his pricing he would be uncompetitive with his opposition.
Anyone who did not expect that "on road costs" was only applicable in the same state as the item was being sold needs to get a hold of themselves...Or maybe to stop getting a hold of themselves.
As a van needs to be presented for inspection, number checking and sometimes weighing at an office in the state of registration, how would you expect a dealer in Melbourne to do that in NSW or say WA economically?
My tow vehicle is registered in NSW, my van is registered in Vic via a friend's address, Vicroads send the renewal papers directly to my home in NSW.
My insurance company is aware of and comfortable with the arrangement as am I.
Gday...
Perhaps one day we will become a Commonwealth of Australia, rather than a collection autonomous colonies.
Cheers - John
Oh, don't get me me wrong, I'm aware of the differences between state re costs, and would be happy to negotiate the difference......
Gee...I hope not.. You can bet your boots that if ever the states agree to co-ordinate their van registration fees....It won't be at Victorian prices.