Hi All, can someone tell me what fuel consumption one should expect out of a 1990 coaster diesel if I stick around the 90km/hr.
has anyone heard of putting a drop of two stroke oil in the fuel to help the motor. Thanks All Shero
-- Edited by shero on Sunday 19th of January 2014 09:19:56 PM
billeeeeeee said
09:48 PM Jan 19, 2014
Howdyeeeee Shero, could you be more Specific, the Van won't be going down hill in Neutral will it,??? Well Shero, hope to catch you out there in Planet Beautiful,, You know something Shero,??? as I have been reading your post , i'm getting some Vibs, you must be a very excited person..... Do you believe in Vibs,,,??????
Shero, I have the 3B 3.4 4 cylinder diesel engine in my Coaster.
I get around 6.5 to 7 kms to the litre just general running around, however on a trip cruising around the 80km I get about 8 km to the litre.
John
native pepper said
06:55 AM Jan 20, 2014
shero wrote:
Hi All, can someone tell me what fuel consumption one should expect out of a 1990 coaster diesel if I stick around the 90km/hr.
has anyone heard of putting a drop of two stroke oil in the fuel to help the motor. Thanks All Shero
-- Edited by shero on Sunday 19th of January 2014 09:19:56 PM
Putting a in small amount of 2 stroke is an excellent idea, since the introduction of ultra low sulhpur diesel, the lubricity of the fuel is not that good and is very close to an abrasive, especially with older engines. You can pay for additives, but 2 stroke does a just as good a job and heaps cheaper. There is a difference between 2 stroke for outboards and other engines, it's not recommended to use the outboard 2 stroke.
Mercedes and others who run racing diesel engines always add 2 stroke to their fuels, it not only lubricates, but cleans fuel systems and injectors to a degree. Been using it for many years and one of our land cruisers has done over 650000klms on it's engine.
-- Edited by native pepper on Monday 20th of January 2014 06:55:58 AM
KevKim37 said
02:17 PM Jan 20, 2014
Apart from 2 stroke oil as an injection system/upper cylinder lubricant, Any Mineral Type Auto Transmission Oil can also be used as it has a High Zinc content. All depends on the cheapest at purchase time. The American Trucking industry has been using the Auto Trans Fluid as a fuel additive for many years as also I have been for close to 11 years on two different diesel vehicles without any problems. Mixing ratio is 200:1 or 500mls to 100 litres.
A couple who I met 12 years ago with an old Bedford petrol had to start using Unleaded Fuel , so fitted a "Doring Fuel Catalyst" and the primary instructions were to add the Auto Trans Fluid for the first 1000 to 2000 kms until the "Tin"pellets in the Catalyst were working effectively and then there was no further need for the ATF after that.They travelled for 3 years around the country without any further problems with running the Unleaded Fuel.
Cheers Kev.
native pepper said
02:41 PM Jan 20, 2014
KevKim37 wrote:
Apart from 2 stroke oil as an injection system/upper cylinder lubricant, Any Mineral Type Auto Transmission Oil can also be used as it has a High Zinc content. All depends on the cheapest at purchase time. The American Trucking industry has been using the Auto Trans Fluid as a fuel additive for many years as also I have been for close to 11 years on two different diesel vehicles without any problems. Mixing ratio is 200:1 or 500mls to 100 litres.
A couple who I met 12 years ago with an old Bedford petrol had to start using Unleaded Fuel , so fitted a "Doring Fuel Catalyst" and the primary instructions were to add the Auto Trans Fluid for the first 1000 to 2000 kms until the "Tin"pellets in the Catalyst were working effectively and then there was no further need for the ATF after that.They travelled for 3 years around the country without any further problems with running the Unleaded Fuel.
Cheers Kev.
Used ATF for may years, but the majority is synthetic now, mineral seems hard to get on the road I've found and synthetic doesn't do the job, so I have been informed. So changed to 2 stroke mineral which you can get everywhere. When doing every second oil change, I always add 450mm of diesel and 50mm of ATF, or 2 stroke, fast idle then drain and have done for more than 35 years in diesels. Learnt that from a bush mechanic, when my boss told me to try it in my truck, was amazed at what came out of the sump, how quieter and cooler the engine ran. Since have always used it in all diesels, buy it and engine oil in bulk, the savings over a couple of years are pretty impressive, if you're on a pension.
-- Edited by native pepper on Monday 20th of January 2014 02:42:39 PM
Joe50 said
11:41 PM Jan 20, 2014
native pepper wrote:
Putting a in small amount of 2 stroke is an excellent idea, since the introduction of ultra low sulhpur diesel, the lubricity of the fuel is not that good and is very close to an abrasive, especially with older engines. You can pay for additives, but 2 stroke does a just as good a job and heaps cheaper. There is a difference between 2 stroke for outboards and other engines, it's not recommended to use the outboard 2 stroke.
Hi NP - what ratio of 2-stroke oil to diesel do you recommend, and how often? Also, when you add 450mm of diesel and 50mm (I assume you mean ml, not mm) of ATF, or 2-stroke oil before every second oil change, is that added to the fuel, or oil, prior to running on fast idle and draining. I'm planning to buy a Hino for motorhome conversion this year which will be my first diesel-powered vehicle, so I'm scanning for tips.
Joe
native pepper said
07:58 AM Jan 21, 2014
jpw50 wrote:
native pepper wrote:
Putting a in small amount of 2 stroke is an excellent idea, since the introduction of ultra low sulhpur diesel, the lubricity of the fuel is not that good and is very close to an abrasive, especially with older engines. You can pay for additives, but 2 stroke does a just as good a job and heaps cheaper. There is a difference between 2 stroke for outboards and other engines, it's not recommended to use the outboard 2 stroke.
Hi NP - what ratio of 2-stroke oil to diesel do you recommend, and how often? Also, when you add 450mm of diesel and 50mm (I assume you mean ml, not mm) of ATF, or 2-stroke oil before every second oil change, is that added to the fuel, or oil, prior to running on fast idle and draining. I'm planning to buy a Hino for motorhome conversion this year which will be my first diesel-powered vehicle, so I'm scanning for tips.
Joe
G'day Joe, only use a small amount just to discolour the diesel, maybe 1/50-75 and put it in every coupe of fills. The dino and ATF/2stroke goes into the sump, make sure it is not over filled or you may blow seals and gaskets. If you want your diesel engine to go a long time without many problems, you warm it before driving, luckily with a large buses you have to get your air up before you can go anywhere, so you have a couple of minutes pre warming. Idle slowly until your oil pressure is fully up, then idle at 12/1300revs, which will bring the temp up and all components to their operating tolerances, reducing wear and stress on components. It takes approximately 12klms to bring drive lines and running gear to operating temps once you start to move, until that time there's a lot of stress on components, so it's best to drive very easily an let the vehicle work itself up to operating temps and performances tolerances. Hope that helps.
shero said
08:36 PM Jan 21, 2014
Hi Bileeeeeee,
Believe in vibes not sure what you mean. I'm a christian and I believe that God is going to take me to some amazing places around this great country.
I'm getting a few things done to the coaster and then I'll be off. I don't know where but there will be a river to park beside of a night.
can you suggest any free camps around Gloucester area.
I,m planning a few short trips to get the feel of the bus first and the head up to Hervey Bay.
Might see you out and about.
Thanks to everyone else for their words of wisdom.
Shero
Joe50 said
12:29 AM Jan 22, 2014
native pepper wrote:G'day Joe, only use a small amount just to discolour the diesel, maybe 1/50-75 and put it in every coupe of fills. The dino and ATF/2stroke goes into the sump, make sure it is not over filled or you may blow seals and gaskets. If you want your diesel engine to go a long time without many problems, you warm it before driving, luckily with a large buses you have to get your air up before you can go anywhere, so you have a couple of minutes pre warming. Idle slowly until your oil pressure is fully up, then idle at 12/1300revs, which will bring the temp up and all components to their operating tolerances, reducing wear and stress on components. It takes approximately 12klms to bring drive lines and running gear to operating temps once you start to move, until that time there's a lot of stress on components, so it's best to drive very easily an let the vehicle work itself up to operating temps and performances tolerances. Hope that helps.
Thanks Native Pepper, looks like a ritual but I'm sure it'll become second nature after a while.
Hi All, can someone tell me what fuel consumption one should expect out of a 1990 coaster diesel if I stick around the 90km/hr.
has anyone heard of putting a drop of two stroke oil in the fuel to help the motor. Thanks All Shero
-- Edited by shero on Sunday 19th of January 2014 09:19:56 PM
Howdyeeeee Shero, could you be more Specific, the Van won't be going down hill in Neutral will it,??? Well Shero, hope to catch you out there in Planet Beautiful,, You know something Shero,??? as I have been reading your post , i'm getting some Vibs, you must be a very excited person..... Do you believe in Vibs,,,??????
Shero, I have the 3B 3.4 4 cylinder diesel engine in my Coaster.
I get around 6.5 to 7 kms to the litre just general running around, however on a trip cruising around the 80km I get about 8 km to the litre.
John
Putting a in small amount of 2 stroke is an excellent idea, since the introduction of ultra low sulhpur diesel, the lubricity of the fuel is not that good and is very close to an abrasive, especially with older engines. You can pay for additives, but 2 stroke does a just as good a job and heaps cheaper. There is a difference between 2 stroke for outboards and other engines, it's not recommended to use the outboard 2 stroke.
Mercedes and others who run racing diesel engines always add 2 stroke to their fuels, it not only lubricates, but cleans fuel systems and injectors to a degree. Been using it for many years and one of our land cruisers has done over 650000klms on it's engine.
-- Edited by native pepper on Monday 20th of January 2014 06:55:58 AM
Apart from 2 stroke oil as an injection system/upper cylinder lubricant, Any Mineral Type Auto Transmission Oil can also be used as it has a High Zinc content. All depends on the cheapest at purchase time. The American Trucking industry has been using the Auto Trans Fluid as a fuel additive for many years as also I have been for close to 11 years on two different diesel vehicles without any problems. Mixing ratio is 200:1 or 500mls to 100 litres.
A couple who I met 12 years ago with an old Bedford petrol had to start using Unleaded Fuel , so fitted a "Doring Fuel Catalyst" and the primary instructions were to add the Auto Trans Fluid for the first 1000 to 2000 kms until the "Tin"pellets in the Catalyst were working effectively and then there was no further need for the ATF after that.They travelled for 3 years around the country without any further problems with running the Unleaded Fuel.
Cheers Kev.
Used ATF for may years, but the majority is synthetic now, mineral seems hard to get on the road I've found and synthetic doesn't do the job, so I have been informed. So changed to 2 stroke mineral which you can get everywhere. When doing every second oil change, I always add 450mm of diesel and 50mm of ATF, or 2 stroke, fast idle then drain and have done for more than 35 years in diesels. Learnt that from a bush mechanic, when my boss told me to try it in my truck, was amazed at what came out of the sump, how quieter and cooler the engine ran. Since have always used it in all diesels, buy it and engine oil in bulk, the savings over a couple of years are pretty impressive, if you're on a pension.
-- Edited by native pepper on Monday 20th of January 2014 02:42:39 PM
Hi NP - what ratio of 2-stroke oil to diesel do you recommend, and how often? Also, when you add 450mm of diesel and 50mm (I assume you mean ml, not mm) of ATF, or 2-stroke oil before every second oil change, is that added to the fuel, or oil, prior to running on fast idle and draining. I'm planning to buy a Hino for motorhome conversion this year which will be my first diesel-powered vehicle, so I'm scanning for tips.
Joe
G'day Joe, only use a small amount just to discolour the diesel, maybe 1/50-75 and put it in every coupe of fills. The dino and ATF/2stroke goes into the sump, make sure it is not over filled or you may blow seals and gaskets. If you want your diesel engine to go a long time without many problems, you warm it before driving, luckily with a large buses you have to get your air up before you can go anywhere, so you have a couple of minutes pre warming. Idle slowly until your oil pressure is fully up, then idle at 12/1300revs, which will bring the temp up and all components to their operating tolerances, reducing wear and stress on components. It takes approximately 12klms to bring drive lines and running gear to operating temps once you start to move, until that time there's a lot of stress on components, so it's best to drive very easily an let the vehicle work itself up to operating temps and performances tolerances. Hope that helps.
Hi Bileeeeeee,
Believe in vibes not sure what you mean. I'm a christian and I believe that God is going to take me to some amazing places around this great country.
I'm getting a few things done to the coaster and then I'll be off. I don't know where but there will be a river to park beside of a night.
can you suggest any free camps around Gloucester area.
I,m planning a few short trips to get the feel of the bus first and the head up to Hervey Bay.
Might see you out and about.
Thanks to everyone else for their words of wisdom.
Shero
Thanks Native Pepper, looks like a ritual but I'm sure it'll become second nature after a while.
Happy & safe travels
Joe