There are a lot of adverts recommending an additional fuel filter, either before or after the original one. We only have what Henry gave the van when he designed it, and our serviceman says that is OK provided we avoid aftermarket filters, and stick to the specified service intervals.
I have read the various threads on choice of fuel but would be interested to read comments from anyone who has gone down this track and added an extra filter or determined that it is unnecessary.
Thanks,
Barry
Bunkerbob said
07:23 PM Jan 17, 2014
Some add a water separator before the filter but as long as they are changed regularly, that is before they need to be changed you shouldn't have a problem. I have heard that the new 200 series can get a computer glitch that says you have to change the filter after a short period of time. 200 owners may be able to help.I change mine very 10,000 ams regardless. 1990 GQ Patrol 4.2TD
Sheba said
08:07 PM Jan 17, 2014
I'm going to get one of these when I finally get going. If I remember rightly, only about $20.00.
There are a lot of adverts recommending an additional fuel filter, either before or after the original one. We only have what Henry gave the van when he designed it, and our serviceman says that is OK provided we avoid aftermarket filters, and stick to the specified service intervals.
I have read the various threads on choice of fuel but would be interested to read comments from anyone who has gone down this track and added an extra filter or determined that it is unnecessary.
Thanks,
Barry
I have been running the CAV filters for the last 25yrs with no problem, they have been around longer than me & still here so that speaks for itself.
Inexpensive, can have them with the glass bowl so water can be seen & a with water drain, also with an alloy bowl with drain plug.
Fitted before factory unit means the expensive factory will last much longer & should only need a change due to age.
As for changing any filter at service is only a guide, IF you pick up a load of bad fuel you may change several filters before you get rid of all the water/dirt. In saying that I have never had bad fuel my self BUT have seen my share in the trade.
Two very important tips;;(1) IF a fuel tanker is in the servo filling underground tanks, drive on. (2) IF there are ground works going around the driveway & tanks, drive on.
JC
justcruisin01 said
08:28 PM Jan 17, 2014
Sheba wrote:
I'm going to get one of these when I finally get going. If I remember rightly, only about $20.00.
Cheers,
Sheba.
That looks like a funnel with a strainer, can't use that at the servo.
Sheba said
08:37 PM Jan 17, 2014
justcruisin01 wrote:
That looks like a funnel with a strainer, can't use that at the servo.
Why not JC ? I had planned to.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Olley46 said
08:38 PM Jan 17, 2014
The last time I looked at that funnel in BCF it was close on $ 100.00.
lance C
Sheba said
08:40 PM Jan 17, 2014
Was it the one made by Shurhold Industries Lance ?
Cheers,
Sheba.
Olley46 said
08:46 PM Jan 17, 2014
Sheba wrote:
Was it the one made by Shurhold Industries Lance ?
Cheers,
Sheba.
Hi Sheba
The one I looked at was identical to the one in the post above,but that one is a large one, you can bye a smaller one but I can't remember the price.
lance C.
justcruisin01 said
08:54 PM Jan 17, 2014
Sheba wrote:
justcruisin01 wrote:
That looks like a funnel with a strainer, can't use that at the servo.
Why not JC ? I had planned to.
Cheers,
Sheba.
There's a major flow difference between a funnel with strainer & a driveway pump, the pump is under pressure & funnel is gravity ,you would have to fill so slow to avoid spillage that it would not be worth the effort. I can just see the driveway rage comming on & possibibly the servo attendant would put a stop to it.
JC.
in transit said
09:00 PM Jan 17, 2014
Thanks for the tips on tankers and ground works. Makes sense to me.
Barry
ST391GQ said
11:35 PM Jan 17, 2014
That looks like a funnel with a strainer, can't use that at the servo.
I have used one at a servo on a fair few occasions now....but all except one time were at the servos in outer locations ( Marre..William Creek etc).
Have had no problem with any station as yet...and the look of surprise at one place when they saw the crud that the filter separated was priceless !
I do however use the biggest one available (the one with 2 filters in it). these are supposed to have a flow rate of about 40 litres per minute...so some control on the handpiece is needed. I reckon that on 2 occasions now it has saved me grief...one at a servo...and one time out of my own jerries. Still not sure why my jerries had water in them....only thing I can think of is condensation as the fuel was in them right from home through the high country to the upper Flinders. We had some time of heavy rain plus cold days and then hot ones...so maybe it was condensation....will never know for sure tho.
IMO...these are highly recomended ...speshly if you travel and refuel at places like some of the more remote stations and towns etc.
Cheers Keith
deverall11 said
12:05 PM Jan 18, 2014
Bunkerbob,
The 200 series can be touchy when it comes to fuel filter. Most of the people on the forum (LCOOL) that have report issues with the fuel filter have been genuine issues. The one thing that perhaps escapes a lot of people is the fact that when using bio diesel, there is a cleaning action which can/will result in the ECU detecting 'dirt' in the filter. This is really the ECU detecting a drop in fuel pressure from what it expects.
Also, new vehicles are quite highly tunes when it comes to injectors and their performance.
I guess it is the price you pay for technological advancement. Gone are the days where if you had a problem whilst travelling and you could stop on the side of the road for a quick repair. Hope this makes sense.
I would suggest anyone with a late model 4wd diesel to find the appropriate forum for their vehicles and have a browse. There is a hell of a lot information out there. On quite a few occasions I have found that the people on the Landcruiser forum to have better knowledge on Lancruisers than dealers.
Larry
native pepper said
07:11 PM Jan 18, 2014
We have in line throw away and cleanable filters before the main filter and iP. The throw aways are cheap and collect any water as well as any junk, the ones you can clean are good to but of a higher micron. Only change the main filter once a year and are always pretty clean since using the in line filters. I see it as double safety, got the idea from when driving road trains, we used them all the time as the quality of the fuel by the time you got it in the past, was sometimes not that great. Much easier pull out an in line and change it quickly, than have to remove the main and change or clean it. We also had water traps, particularly when in the rainy season.
in transit said
09:34 PM Jan 18, 2014
That seems like a good plan and probably an easy job (relatively)
03_troopy said
07:15 PM Jan 20, 2014
Native Pepper, can you post a link or pic of the inline filters you're talking about please? Sounds like a good idea.
native pepper said
08:14 AM Jan 21, 2014
03_troopy wrote:
Native Pepper, can you post a link or pic of the inline filters you're talking about please? Sounds like a good idea.
You can get them at super cheap for $2.99, or slightly different at repco for about $4
This one is cleanable and $8 from china
-- Edited by native pepper on Tuesday 21st of January 2014 08:23:28 AM
There are a lot of adverts recommending an additional fuel filter, either before or after the original one. We only have what Henry gave the van when he designed it, and our serviceman says that is OK provided we avoid aftermarket filters, and stick to the specified service intervals.
I have read the various threads on choice of fuel but would be interested to read comments from anyone who has gone down this track and added an extra filter or determined that it is unnecessary.
Thanks,
Barry
I'm going to get one of these when I finally get going. If I remember rightly, only about $20.00.
Cheers,
Sheba.
I have been running the CAV filters for the last 25yrs with no problem, they have been around longer than me & still here so that speaks for itself.
Inexpensive, can have them with the glass bowl so water can be seen & a with water drain, also with an alloy bowl with drain plug.
Fitted before factory unit means the expensive factory will last much longer & should only need a change due to age.
As for changing any filter at service is only a guide, IF you pick up a load of bad fuel you may change several filters before you get rid of all the water/dirt. In saying that I have never had bad fuel my self BUT have seen my share in the trade.
Two very important tips;;(1) IF a fuel tanker is in the servo filling underground tanks, drive on. (2) IF there are ground works going around the driveway & tanks, drive on.
JC
That looks like a funnel with a strainer, can't use that at the servo.
Why not JC ? I had planned to.
Cheers,
Sheba.
The last time I looked at that funnel in BCF it was close on $ 100.00.
lance C
Was it the one made by Shurhold Industries Lance ?
Cheers,
Sheba.
Hi Sheba
The one I looked at was identical to the one in the post above,but that one is a large one, you can bye a smaller one but I can't remember the price.
lance C.
There's a major flow difference between a funnel with strainer & a driveway pump, the pump is under pressure & funnel is gravity ,you would have to fill so slow to avoid spillage that it would not be worth the effort. I can just see the driveway rage comming on & possibibly the servo attendant would put a stop to it.
JC.
Barry
I have used one at a servo on a fair few occasions now....but all except one time were at the servos in outer locations ( Marre..William Creek etc).
Have had no problem with any station as yet...and the look of surprise at one place when they saw the crud that the filter separated was priceless !
I do however use the biggest one available (the one with 2 filters in it). these are supposed to have a flow rate of about 40 litres per minute...so some control on the handpiece is needed. I reckon that on 2 occasions now it has saved me grief...one at a servo...and one time out of my own jerries. Still not sure why my jerries had water in them....only thing I can think of is condensation as the fuel was in them right from home through the high country to the upper Flinders. We had some time of heavy rain plus cold days and then hot ones...so maybe it was condensation....will never know for sure tho.
IMO...these are highly recomended ...speshly if you travel and refuel at places like some of the more remote stations and towns etc.
Cheers Keith
The 200 series can be touchy when it comes to fuel filter. Most of the people on the forum (LCOOL) that have report issues with the fuel filter have been genuine issues. The one thing that perhaps escapes a lot of people is the fact that when using bio diesel, there is a cleaning action which can/will result in the ECU detecting 'dirt' in the filter. This is really the ECU detecting a drop in fuel pressure from what it expects.
Also, new vehicles are quite highly tunes when it comes to injectors and their performance.
I guess it is the price you pay for technological advancement. Gone are the days where if you had a problem whilst travelling and you could stop on the side of the road for a quick repair. Hope this makes sense.
I would suggest anyone with a late model 4wd diesel to find the appropriate forum for their vehicles and have a browse. There is a hell of a lot information out there. On quite a few occasions I have found that the people on the Landcruiser forum to have better knowledge on Lancruisers than dealers.
Larry
You can get them at super cheap for $2.99, or slightly different at repco for about $4
This one is cleanable and $8 from china
-- Edited by native pepper on Tuesday 21st of January 2014 08:23:28 AM