Could be interested but the link keeps freezing on me.
neilnruth said
12:46 AM Nov 1, 2013
I can get the link but without buying the book it tells me nothing. Pity. I would have liked to know.
Dunmowin said
02:09 AM Nov 1, 2013
I managed to get on to it today (had issues last night with good connectivity) The scalp conditioners etc look good, would like to try, but nothing is guaranteed. I currently use Moroccan Oil which helps ease the itch, but does not take away the flake.
dorian said
02:27 AM Nov 1, 2013
I'm always suspicious when some self styled expert offers to sell you their "medical" or "health" secrets. Sure, "Doctor" Irene has two official looking academic credentials, but I don't believe that a Bachelor of Applied Science degree is anything like a real medical degree.
And what exactly is Chinese "medicine"? To me, it's one step away from quackery. Lotions, potions, elixirs, tonics, herbs, roots, fungi, needles, etc.
In fact I used to share an office with a Chinese fellow who really believed that stirring his soup with a tiger's penis would endow him with sexual potency, like natural Viagra (he didn't actually do this, or at least I never saw him do it). I also heard of people swallowing live white baby mice (I can't remember why), and others who would eat the brain of a live monkey until it stopped dancing on a tambourine.
jules47 said
04:15 AM Nov 1, 2013
That stuff with the Chinese fellow and the other ones are scary stuff Dorian!!!!!
Judy - I don't have psoriasis, but exzema - had it on my scalp, as well as other places. I found that using a pure woollen pillow, and a pure cotton pillowslip helped a lot with the itchiness and also the flaking - the pillows are hard to find - but gettable - maybe google, Target used to do them, but haven't seen them for ages.
She came across it at the markets in Rockhampton Qld, when she lived there for a few years.
Cloak said
04:41 AM Nov 6, 2013
I agree with you dorian.
When a claim to offer a cure is used as a hook to sell seminars and books AND the credentials don't stack up AND no independent peer review material exists.....
Spells bullsh1t to me.
Be sceptical and keep you wallet in your pocket.
Beth54 said
01:10 AM Nov 8, 2013
Also, what works for some may not work for others. Just because Neem products work for my daughter doesn't mean it'll work for Joe down the road.
Duh said
05:00 AM Nov 9, 2013
As a long term suffer of Psoriasis and also at one time a Psoriasis support group, my understanding is that there is no cure, but it can be controlled by certain lotions, shampoos and in some cases ultra violet light treatment and medication.
Sometimes some things work for awhile for some, for others not. I even tried Derisal at one time as did others in my group, however it does stain clothing and is for animals, not humans, see; http://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/DERISAL#.Uny0QoyQ8qQ
Unfortunately for me, I am also one of the 30% of psoriasis sufferers who have Psoriatic Arthritis, I was taking a drug called Methotrexate for it at one time which also helped clear the skin psoriasis up a bit, but I was not happy about using it although under the direction of a specialist and stopped taking it. The psoriasis returned to the previous level and also the arthritis pain ( I just use panadol when things get too bad). See this article on the subject; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psoriatic_arthritis
Beth54 said
12:16 AM Nov 10, 2013
That sounds awful Vic. I feel for you.
I don't know if it's the same for all cases, but my daughters seems to be stress related. The first time she had it her son was 2. They told her to bath in that black stuff, of which I've forgotten the name, twice a day. But that was pretty difficult to do with a 2 year old running loose.
She has it on her knees and elbows mostly. Naturally, it's all there for the world to see in the summer, and she does get some strange looks. I don't think she gives a rats anymore. She knows it's nothing contagious.
Thank goodness she doesn't get the Arthritis with it Vic.
Duh said
12:59 AM Nov 10, 2013
Sorry to hear about your daughters Beth, I have it in those places too among others. In the Psoriasis support group I was in years ago (since folded) as well as sufferers we had a chemist used to come along to offer advice etc, we also had a priest, but he was a sufferer too so his prayers didn't help him.
There were all sorts of treatments tried by all there, rubbing Aloe Vera on the psoriasis or drinking Aloe Vera Juice, some said bath in sea water, but one bloke there that had it all over his legs said that he was a regular fisherman and always jumping in and out of his dinghy to bring it to sure and it didn't do anything for his, etc, etc. Some things worked for some people for awhile and then they had to try something else. That black stuff might be coal tar, that is the base for some of the stuff you get from the chemists etc.
I mainly use Novasone liquid on mine when it gets too bad (steroid liquid or cream, Elocon is similar) but don't like using it too often but in between I just use ordinary skin lotion. As your daughter says it is not contagious but some people look at your like your are a leper or something. I get it behind the ears and on the scalp too and hate going to have my hair cut, although most barbers are aware of what it is and is part of their training to recognise it.
Some medico's say it is stress related and also can be genetic, although all members of a family do not get it as a rule. Sending you a pm.
Beth54 said
01:18 AM Nov 10, 2013
Yes, coal tar. I just remembered that she got something when she was in Thailand that worked really well, but apparently you can't get it here.
Nobody else in out immediate family has it. The only one's from the extended family that I know of is my late Aunt on my Mum's side, and a cousin and her son on my Dad's side.
Duh said
01:30 AM Nov 10, 2013
Not sure what that might be Beth (from Thailand), but with genetics sometimes it only affects some, my sister and I are afflicted but not my other 5 siblings, my dad had it too.
Beth54 said
02:08 AM Nov 10, 2013
My daughter is a throw back to my Paternal Grandmothers side. Red hair, strong sturdy build, very fair skin. So maybe there was some Psoriasis back there too.
Duh said
03:31 AM Nov 10, 2013
Yes, it is strange genetics Beth, makes you wonder...
Gerty Dancer said
05:28 PM Nov 10, 2013
Ah yes, the elbows and knees... I get psoriasis in these areas in the tropics, its hardly ever shows up in the cooler/dryer climate. I'm lucky!
Yes 3 generations of my family have had it, but not everybody in each generation.
Heard this lady interviewed on the radio today and she seemed to make a lot of sense.
May help some
http://ireneprantalos.com/
Could be interested but the link keeps freezing on me.
I managed to get on to it today (had issues last night with good connectivity) The scalp conditioners etc look good, would like to try, but nothing is guaranteed. I currently use Moroccan Oil which helps ease the itch, but does not take away the flake.
And what exactly is Chinese "medicine"? To me, it's one step away from quackery. Lotions, potions, elixirs, tonics, herbs, roots, fungi, needles, etc.
In fact I used to share an office with a Chinese fellow who really believed that stirring his soup with a tiger's penis would endow him with sexual potency, like natural Viagra (he didn't actually do this, or at least I never saw him do it). I also heard of people swallowing live white baby mice (I can't remember why), and others who would eat the brain of a live monkey until it stopped dancing on a tambourine.
Judy - I don't have psoriasis, but exzema - had it on my scalp, as well as other places. I found that using a pure woollen pillow, and a pure cotton pillowslip helped a lot with the itchiness and also the flaking - the pillows are hard to find - but gettable - maybe google, Target used to do them, but haven't seen them for ages.
My daughter finds Neem products work well for her. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neem_oil
She came across it at the markets in Rockhampton Qld, when she lived there for a few years.
When a claim to offer a cure is used as a hook to sell seminars and books AND the credentials don't stack up AND no independent peer review material exists.....
Spells bullsh1t to me.
Be sceptical and keep you wallet in your pocket.
Also, what works for some may not work for others. Just because Neem products work for my daughter doesn't mean it'll work for Joe down the road.
As a long term suffer of Psoriasis and also at one time a Psoriasis support group, my understanding is that there is no cure, but it can be controlled by certain lotions, shampoos and in some cases ultra violet light treatment and medication.
Sometimes some things work for awhile for some, for others not. I even tried Derisal at one time as did others in my group, however it does stain clothing and is for animals, not humans, see; http://www.vetnpetdirect.com.au/DERISAL#.Uny0QoyQ8qQ
Unfortunately for me, I am also one of the 30% of psoriasis sufferers who have Psoriatic Arthritis, I was taking a drug called Methotrexate for it at one time which also helped clear the skin psoriasis up a bit, but I was not happy about using it although under the direction of a specialist and stopped taking it. The psoriasis returned to the previous level and also the arthritis pain ( I just use panadol when things get too bad). See this article on the subject; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psoriatic_arthritis
That sounds awful Vic. I feel for you.
I don't know if it's the same for all cases, but my daughters seems to be stress related. The first time she had it her son was 2. They told her to bath in that black stuff, of which I've forgotten the name, twice a day. But that was pretty difficult to do with a 2 year old running loose.
She has it on her knees and elbows mostly. Naturally, it's all there for the world to see in the summer, and she does get some strange looks. I don't think she gives a rats anymore. She knows it's nothing contagious.
Thank goodness she doesn't get the Arthritis with it Vic.
Sorry to hear about your daughters Beth, I have it in those places too among others. In the Psoriasis support group I was in years ago (since folded) as well as sufferers we had a chemist used to come along to offer advice etc, we also had a priest, but he was a sufferer too so his prayers didn't help him.
There were all sorts of treatments tried by all there, rubbing Aloe Vera on the psoriasis or drinking Aloe Vera Juice, some said bath in sea water, but one bloke there that had it all over his legs said that he was a regular fisherman and always jumping in and out of his dinghy to bring it to sure and it didn't do anything for his, etc, etc. Some things worked for some people for awhile and then they had to try something else. That black stuff might be coal tar, that is the base for some of the stuff you get from the chemists etc.
I mainly use Novasone liquid on mine when it gets too bad (steroid liquid or cream, Elocon is similar) but don't like using it too often but in between I just use ordinary skin lotion. As your daughter says it is not contagious but some people look at your like your are a leper or something. I get it behind the ears and on the scalp too and hate going to have my hair cut, although most barbers are aware of what it is and is part of their training to recognise it.
Some medico's say it is stress related and also can be genetic, although all members of a family do not get it as a rule. Sending you a pm.
Yes, coal tar. I just remembered that she got something when she was in Thailand that worked really well, but apparently you can't get it here.
Nobody else in out immediate family has it. The only one's from the extended family that I know of is my late Aunt on my Mum's side, and a cousin and her son on my Dad's side.
Not sure what that might be Beth (from Thailand), but with genetics sometimes it only affects some, my sister and I are afflicted but not my other 5 siblings, my dad had it too.
My daughter is a throw back to my Paternal Grandmothers side. Red hair, strong sturdy build, very fair skin. So maybe there was some Psoriasis back there too.
Yes, it is strange genetics Beth, makes you wonder...
Yes 3 generations of my family have had it, but not everybody in each generation.