Are you not to take any water from parks and gardens. The taps used to have handles before they were vandalized and you could wash your hands before BBQing, wash the BBQ plate down. Fill up your drink bottle. Wash kids hands before they hold their sausage on a roll..... All of this is illegal now ?
I guess what might be illegal is filling up your water tanks with a hose attached to the park tap.
If you do have water tanks that you need a hose to fill, where do you legally fill them other than a caravan park or maybe an Information Centre...when they're open.
I've also seen them at Bunnings, perhaps they have just sold out everywhere, at this time.
-- Edited by countryroad on Sunday 13th of October 2013 01:43:45 PM
Highwayman said
05:48 PM Oct 13, 2013
In melb looking 4thakey to all the taps ...any clues ? Tried bunnings masters.raysso far
copper1 said
06:00 PM Oct 13, 2013
Highwayman wrote:
In melb looking 4thakey to all the taps ...any clues ? Tried bunnings masters.raysso far
I got another this morning at our bunnings they are down near all of the poly pipe fittings on the end of the isle hanging up here a photo hope you find it.
I'm trying to figure out why we need one of these?????
PeterD said
07:53 PM Oct 13, 2013
Santa, it's so they can thieve water from parks and gardens where the hose ****s don't have the normal T handle on them.
Santa said
08:04 PM Oct 13, 2013
PeterD wrote:
Santa, it's so they can thieve water from parks and gardens where the hose ****s don't have the normal T handle on them.
Are you serious Peter?
Santa said
09:32 PM Oct 13, 2013
countryroad wrote:
If you do have water tanks that you need a hose to fill, where do you legally fill them other than a caravan park or maybe an Information Centre...when they're open.
-- Edited by countryroad on Sunday 13th of October 2013 01:43:45 PM
I've never had a problem filling with water, most road houses are OK with it, information centers, van parks etc.
As for thieving a few cents worth of water! the day I feel a need to resort to this is the day I'll stop traveling.
ozjohn said
10:44 PM Oct 13, 2013
$9.95 in Bunnings.
jules47 said
11:54 PM Oct 13, 2013
Highwayman wrote:
In melb looking 4thakey to all the taps ...any clues ? Tried bunnings masters.raysso far
Bunnings or Mitre 10 Roy - where they sell plumbing stuff - called a TAP KEY!
And the tap handles are removed to stop idiots leave taps dripping and even running!!!! We use them at Greens, the water board guy told us to get one, actually!!!! So not stealing at all!!!!
Highwayman said
12:17 AM Oct 14, 2013
Gaz and rox .....appreciate all the help ...anyone gives me....luv learning curves no Alzheimer's for me ..I have one now along with the bladder so job done for now...they are called ...Vandal proof tap...and I thinking it was a faucet wrench..whoooooo Cya all
KFT said
04:44 AM Oct 14, 2013
we don't have any "faucets" in Australia. I am pretty sure they are called taps here. you usually have a hot one and a cold one(that is also the name for a beer)
Isn't aussie English great?
LOL
frank
Baz421 said
04:57 AM Oct 14, 2013
Santa wrote:
countryroad wrote:
If you do have water tanks that you need a hose to fill, where do you legally fill them other than a caravan park or maybe an Information Centre...when they're open.
-- Edited by countryroad on Sunday 13th of October 2013 01:43:45 PM
I've never had a problem filling with water, most road houses are OK with it, information centers, van parks etc.
As for thieving a few cents worth of water! the day I feel a need to resort to this is the day I'll stop traveling.
Don't over react Santa,,,, a lot of visitor centres etc send us all over the place to get water and many of these taps have been anti vandal heads for years.
KFT said
06:20 AM Oct 14, 2013
If we need to top up our tanks we always ask at the V.I.C and we are happy to pay for it.
with all the technology we have these days you still can't make water.
frank
sandsmere said
05:17 PM Oct 14, 2013
Well said Jules . We have one too . Haven't used it much .
Never thought of pinching water . Only thieves think about thieving don't they ?
-- Edited by sandsmere on Monday 14th of October 2013 05:18:24 PM
Santa said
06:23 PM Oct 14, 2013
Baz421 wrote:
I've never had a problem filling with water, most road houses are OK with it, information centers, van parks et
As for thieving a few cents worth of water! the day I feel a need to resort to this is the day I'll stop traveling.
Don't over react Santa,,,, a lot of visitor centres etc send us all over the place to get water and many of these taps have been anti vandal heads for years.
No over reaction Baz, I don't like subsidizing thieves.
Perhaps we travel differently, in my years of moving around OZ I have only come across these tap handles once, think it was at the Information centre in Norseman WA, the friendly volunteers handed over the handle on receipt of a gold coin donation, and we then filled up with 150 litres of water for the princely sum of $2.
jules47 said
06:43 PM Oct 14, 2013
Santa - have had the "vandal proof tap handle" for about a year - we have used it rarely - apart from here at Greens - usually get fresh water from places that are made for that purpose - around here at Girgarre there is a dump point, a water tap which is freely available to campers etc., and also hot showers available.
For the showers you need to leave a $30 deposit at the little shop/post office across from the hall - used to be open to all and unlocked, but that got spoilt by some young campers who had no consideration for others. When they had to ask for the key, they would not return it - just pass it on to other young travellers.
If, at Girgarre, they asked for a donation for fresh water - I would pay it gladly, as it allows us to stay out here longer. Would do the same at any place that requested a donation for water.
We do not "steal" water!!!!! I agree wish Baz421 - don't over react! It will raise your blood pressure!!!!
solarpanel4 said
07:31 PM Oct 14, 2013
I live in a small town in NSW and all outside water is untreated channel water. The shire uses the channel water for irrigation of parks and gardens in the town. There is not necessarily a sign indicating that the water is undrinkable so this is just a word to the wise that you have to be careful which taps you select for drinking water.
Regards .. Jeff
jules47 said
11:04 PM Oct 14, 2013
We always check where the water is from Jeff. Often there are signs about the water being non-potable - we take note of these signs.
Ontos45 said
10:22 AM Oct 15, 2013
KFT wrote:
If we need to top up our tanks we always ask at the V.I.C and we are happy to pay for it.
with all the technology we have these days you still can't make water.
frank
Yes we can make water! Saw on the internet an American Device that extracted water from the air using the humidity.
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Tuesday 15th of October 2013 10:27:28 AM
Ontos45 said
11:36 AM Oct 15, 2013
The problem is, the water cycle goes through dry periods. Because of this, some inventors have begun to wonder, why wait? Why not pull the water vapor right out of the air?
One Australian inventor has done just that. Max Whisson is the creator of the Whisson Windmill, a machine that uses wind power to collect water out of the atmosphere. Whisson points out to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that water vapor amounts to about "10,000 billion litres [about 2,600 billion gallons] in the bottom kilometere [about .62 miles] of air around the world" [source: ABC]. What's more, this water is replaced every few hours as part of the water cycle.
Whisson's windmill uses refrigerant to cool the blades of his mill, which he's named Max Water. These blades are situated vertically rather than diagonally, so that even the slightest breeze turns them. The cool blades cool the air, causing the water vapor to condense -- become liquid water again. This condensation is then collected and stored. Whisson's windmill can collect as much as 2,600 gallons of water from the air per day.
Whisson says that his biggest challenge isn't the engineering behind his invention but finding the venture capital to back it -- he says that people think it's too good to be true
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Tuesday 15th of October 2013 11:40:21 AM
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Tuesday 15th of October 2013 11:41:53 AM
jules47 said
04:31 PM Oct 15, 2013
Absolutely right there sandsmere - if you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about I reckon!
We had a lady once, when we were looking for water, offer to let us use her garden tap! We didn't, but it was a lovely gesture I thought.
Rip and Rosie said
04:41 PM Oct 15, 2013
PeterD wrote:
Santa, it's so they can thieve water from parks and gardens where the hose ****s don't have the normal T handle on them.
I must say it annoys me when self righteous people jump to conclusions.
We got our tap handle for use at home with the water meter and front garden tap.
KFT said
06:00 PM Oct 15, 2013
thanks Peter, nice little gadget. I could not see if it was available in Australia. I don't think it would make enough to fill the tank in our dry atmosphere though.
I suppose it does much the same as a refrigerated aircon unit by dehumidifying the air and catching the condensate.
I used to be able to catch the condensate from the aircon in our first caravan and it was always good water as long as you kept the aircon unit clean.
modern roof mounted units don't have condensate drains
good thought though
frank
Santa said
06:12 PM Oct 15, 2013
Rip and Rosie wrote:
PeterD wrote:
We got our tap handle for use at home with the water meter and front garden tap.
Why would you need this type of security device at home?
jules47 said
06:33 PM Oct 15, 2013
Because if you water meter is on your front lawn - some people have been know to turn your tap on, just for fun!!!!!! Have had it happen! Also had a tap handle taken off completely, and thrown through neighbours window!!!!!!
Santa said
07:19 PM Oct 15, 2013
jules47 wrote:
Because if you water meter is on your front lawn - some people have been know to turn your tap on, just for fun!!!!!! Have had it happen! Also had a tap handle taken off completely, and thrown through neighbours window!!!!!!
Seriously? I guess it takes all types.
Rip and Rosie said
08:20 PM Oct 15, 2013
Santa wrote:
jules47 wrote:
Because if you water meter is on your front lawn - some people have been know to turn your tap on, just for fun!!!!!! Have had it happen! Also had a tap handle taken off completely, and thrown through neighbours window!!!!!!
Seriously? I guess it takes all types.
plus the ones who turn your water off, just for fun.
jules47 said
09:42 PM Oct 15, 2013
That's another one Rosie!!!!
Duh said
10:34 PM Oct 15, 2013
I also have the 4 way tap handle, never used it but it is only small so take it on trips just in case I need water in an emergency (eg; radiator if other supply has been used up etc).
Are you not to take any water from parks and gardens. The taps used to have handles before they were vandalized and you could wash your hands before BBQing, wash the BBQ plate down. Fill up your drink bottle. Wash kids hands before they hold their sausage on a roll..... All of this is illegal now ?
I guess what might be illegal is filling up your water tanks with a hose attached to the park tap.
If you do have water tanks that you need a hose to fill, where do you legally fill them other than a caravan park or maybe an Information Centre...when they're open.
I've also seen them at Bunnings, perhaps they have just sold out everywhere, at this time.
-- Edited by countryroad on Sunday 13th of October 2013 01:43:45 PM
In melb looking 4thakey to all the taps ...any clues ? Tried bunnings masters.raysso far
I got another this morning at our bunnings they are down near all of the poly pipe fittings on the end of the isle hanging up here a photo hope you find it.
I'm trying to figure out why we need one of these?????
Are you serious Peter?
I've never had a problem filling with water, most road houses are OK with it, information centers, van parks etc.
As for thieving a few cents worth of water! the day I feel a need to resort to this is the day I'll stop traveling.
$9.95 in Bunnings.
Bunnings or Mitre 10 Roy - where they sell plumbing stuff - called a TAP KEY!
And the tap handles are removed to stop idiots leave taps dripping and even running!!!! We use them at Greens, the water board guy told us to get one, actually!!!! So not stealing at all!!!!
Gaz and rox .....appreciate all the help ...anyone gives me....luv learning curves no Alzheimer's for me ..I have one now along with the bladder so job done for now...they are called ...Vandal proof tap...and I thinking it was a faucet wrench..whoooooo Cya all
Isn't aussie English great?
LOL
frank
Don't over react Santa,,,, a lot of visitor centres etc send us all over the place to get water and many of these taps have been anti vandal heads for years.
with all the technology we have these days you still can't make water.
frank
Well said Jules . We have one too . Haven't used it much .
Never thought of pinching water . Only thieves think about thieving don't they ?
-- Edited by sandsmere on Monday 14th of October 2013 05:18:24 PM
No over reaction Baz, I don't like subsidizing thieves.
Perhaps we travel differently, in my years of moving around OZ I have only come across these tap handles once, think it was at the Information centre in Norseman WA, the friendly volunteers handed over the handle on receipt of a gold coin donation, and we then filled up with 150 litres of water for the princely sum of $2.
For the showers you need to leave a $30 deposit at the little shop/post office across from the hall - used to be open to all and unlocked, but that got spoilt by some young campers who had no consideration for others. When they had to ask for the key, they would not return it - just pass it on to other young travellers.
If, at Girgarre, they asked for a donation for fresh water - I would pay it gladly, as it allows us to stay out here longer. Would do the same at any place that requested a donation for water.
We do not "steal" water!!!!! I agree wish Baz421 - don't over react! It will raise your blood pressure!!!!
Regards .. Jeff
Yes we can make water! Saw on the internet an American Device that extracted water from the air using the humidity.
http://www.philstar.com/news-feature/2013/08/03/1045571/new-tech-makes-water-air
Peter
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Tuesday 15th of October 2013 10:27:28 AM
The problem is, the water cycle goes through dry periods. Because of this, some inventors have begun to wonder, why wait? Why not pull the water vapor right out of the air?
One Australian inventor has done just that. Max Whisson is the creator of the Whisson Windmill, a machine that uses wind power to collect water out of the atmosphere. Whisson points out to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that water vapor amounts to about "10,000 billion litres [about 2,600 billion gallons] in the bottom kilometere [about .62 miles] of air around the world" [source: ABC]. What's more, this water is replaced every few hours as part of the water cycle.
Whisson's windmill uses refrigerant to cool the blades of his mill, which he's named Max Water. These blades are situated vertically rather than diagonally, so that even the slightest breeze turns them. The cool blades cool the air, causing the water vapor to condense -- become liquid water again. This condensation is then collected and stored. Whisson's windmill can collect as much as 2,600 gallons of water from the air per day.
Whisson says that his biggest challenge isn't the engineering behind his invention but finding the venture capital to back it -- he says that people think it's too good to be true
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/manufacture-water1.htm
https://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=water+from+air+aus&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_enAU551AU552&q=water+from+air+australia&gs_l=hp..0.0l4.0.0.1.390349...........0._RjH1AyXmFk&pbx=1
Peter
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Tuesday 15th of October 2013 11:40:21 AM
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Tuesday 15th of October 2013 11:41:53 AM
We had a lady once, when we were looking for water, offer to let us use her garden tap! We didn't, but it was a lovely gesture I thought.
I must say it annoys me when self righteous people jump to conclusions.
We got our tap handle for use at home with the water meter and front garden tap.
I suppose it does much the same as a refrigerated aircon unit by dehumidifying the air and catching the condensate.
I used to be able to catch the condensate from the aircon in our first caravan and it was always good water as long as you kept the aircon unit clean.
modern roof mounted units don't have condensate drains
good thought though
frank
Why would you need this type of security device at home?
Seriously? I guess it takes all types.
plus the ones who turn your water off, just for fun.
I also have the 4 way tap handle, never used it but it is only small so take it on trips just in case I need water in an emergency (eg; radiator if other supply has been used up etc).