Not sure about the weight John, they had a full chassis in those days so maybe that's why it stood up to the roll over, also I think the metal body on them was a bit heavier
Here is an interesting link to the history of Dodge cars.
I've never known any car sales people called Dodge, but I've met a few you could call "Dodgy"
-- Edited by Duh on Tuesday 1st of October 2013 04:22:57 PM
rockylizard said
05:59 PM Oct 1, 2013
Gday...
Cheers - John
Duh said
07:30 PM Oct 1, 2013
It is amazing stuff John, only narrow tyres on those things also.....
Yendorane said
08:16 PM Oct 1, 2013
imagine a modern car on its roof then tipped back on its wheels thousands of $ worth of damage
copper1 said
08:33 PM Oct 1, 2013
Looked just like the Princes Hwy LOL LOL
aussietraveller said
09:50 PM Oct 1, 2013
I really think a lot of today's 4X4 vehicles would not be able to achieve what that one did.
rockylizard said
11:02 PM Oct 1, 2013
Duh wrote:
It is amazing stuff John, only narrow tyres on those things also.....
Gday...
I think the clues to its success - and so many of the vehicles in those days -
a) narrow tyres with stiff sidewalls;
b) good ground clearance;
c) the vehicles were quite light in comparison to today;
d) wheel travel was quite good - compared to a 'standard' vehicle today;
e) low gearing (high numerically) giving low top speed, but good torque transference to wheels;
d) low revving motors with good torque.
It was good to see this - AHHHH ... the era of adventure
Cheers - John
rockylizard said
11:40 PM Oct 1, 2013
Gday...
Bit of info via google on the 1920 Dodge -
Engine: 3,479cc
Power: 30hp (25.76Kw) @ 2,000rpm
Weight: 2245lbs (1018.31kg)
Transmission: 3-speed sliding floor control
They don't make em like they used to
cheers - John
Bryan said
02:25 AM Oct 2, 2013
Loved the way they bobbed up and down.
D and D said
04:44 AM Oct 2, 2013
Ah, but can it tow a van at the same time?
Olley46 said
06:03 AM Oct 2, 2013
If you can't afford a Ford bye a Dodge and dodge a Ford.
Lance C
ShortNorth said
06:04 AM Oct 2, 2013
My late father-in-law used to say "If you can't afford a dodge, dodge a Ford" - and .................................. his surname was Ford !
GaryKelly said
05:52 PM Oct 2, 2013
If you've ever had your foot stuck deep in mud, you'll know how difficult it is to pull it out. Those large old wheels with narrow tyres were designed to travel through mud without getting stuck - and if they did, were relatively easy to pull out. Think of the old covered wagons heading west during the pioneering days of the US with not a road in sight.
johnq said
06:40 PM Oct 2, 2013
It is the length of the footprint of the tyre that matters, not the width. He would have been running low pressure as well for the mud.
But what can you say except that some fellows are magicians with their vehicles. They understand how to do it and they have plenty of practice to help.
For the rest of us ordinary types the emphasis has to be on conserving the vehicle and of course the payload.
We had an old Ford on the farm that I remember would go everywhere. In truth though the men knew the land features and walked any path they were unsure of prior, and they did go slowly, picking their way. No-one rushed into mud for fear of the sharp rocks, holes and tree limbs that could rip the fuel lines and so on out of the vehicle. I also remember the old truck dry bogged on dry grass and ball-bearing rubble on the slightest of slopes. -We were once in danger of sliding sideways over a drop with a load and saved only by having just enough space to accelerate slowly at a shallow angle. Very sweaty shirts that day.
The only thing I don't like about modern vehicles are the computer bits such as computer chip dwell angle sensors that save a poofteenth of a mile per gallon and if they fail you are hopelessly stranded with nothing you can do to remedy. Honestly, who would put delicate electronics that hate heat, dust and moisture into a vehicle that can and will go into remote areas? It was government bureaucrats and their 'environmental' legislation that did that I suppose.
-- Edited by johnq on Wednesday 2nd of October 2013 06:41:41 PM
Duh said
12:15 AM Oct 3, 2013
GaryKelly wrote:
Think of the old covered wagons heading west during the pioneering days of the US with not a road in sight.
I didn't know you were that old Gary !
I think the high clearance helped too. The old Army Landrover's were useless in mud, no ground clearance and if they went down in the mud to the floor it acted like a suction cup.....
GaryKelly said
05:18 PM Oct 3, 2013
Interesting insights, Johng.
mr glassies said
03:24 AM Oct 11, 2013
naaaaaa olley its if ya cant aford a ford dodge a doge and buy a holden
that was till i bought my colorado nevaagain
dibs
Beth54 said
02:41 AM Oct 12, 2013
That was a good giggle, and a little bit of a trip down memory lane. No, I'm not that old, but I spent my teenage years on Macleay Island in Moreton Bay. No licence or rego needed there in those days, so there were all sorts of weird and wonderful vehicles.
And the rollover reminded me of the boys rolling the Morrie..Morris Minor..then getting it upright again amid raucous laughter, drove it home, and just chopped off the dented roof!
Duh said
07:19 AM Oct 12, 2013
I was on an army camp in NSW and we were on a bush track with large hills, our 4WD Landrovers were towing 1 ton trailers and were struggling to get up over the hills, a local farmer came along in a Holden FJ ute, he obviously knew the area and how to drive on it, took the hill we were on at speed (we could see him coming up the road flat chat) up and over leaving us in his dust........grrrrr....
So not what you've got but how you drive it in the conditions
dorian said
03:02 PM Oct 13, 2013
Decades ago, I remember one motoring writer saying that a LandRover couldn't pull an old lady off a cast iron pisspot. IIRC the article was about a VW Kombi that he used to trek across Australia.
My cousin used to work on the Picton pipeline and I remember him saying that LandRovers were the worst of the three vehicles that they used, with the Nissan Patrol being the best. In the 1970s a mate had a LandRover which couldn't do better than 100kph on a downhill run.
Duh said
03:39 PM Oct 13, 2013
dorian wrote:
Decades ago, I remember one motoring writer saying that a LandRover couldn't pull an old lady off a cast iron pisspot. IIRC the article was about a VW Kombi that he used to trek across Australia.
My cousin used to work on the Picton pipeline and I remember him saying that LandRovers were the worst of the three vehicles that they used, with the Nissan Patrol being the best. In the 1970s a mate had a LandRover which couldn't do better than 100kph on a downhill run.
In the very early model ones (around late 59 early 1960's) we found the low ground clearance and floor acted as a suction cup, in mud touching the floor they stuck fast. Pretty useless both in Oz and PNG where we used them. On the other hand, the US type jeep you see in War movies were good in PNG as they were lighter and if stuck a few blokes could just lift them out.
Beth54 said
10:12 PM Oct 14, 2013
We had our Land Rover in the 80's, and it was old then. I used to drive it from Warrego NT into Tennant Creek to shop. I'd often set the hand throttle so I could get my feet off the hot floor. And if the wind was blowing the right way it'd be a quick trip, but if not, it was very very slow. I once got a flat tyre. Luckily I was in town and some good samaritan changed it for me. There was no way I could get that spare off the bonnet, let alone change the damn thing!
We had a perfectly good Kingswood wagon before that. Mum thought we were mad. In hindsight, maybe we were, but we wanted a 4WD.
When we returned to Brisbane and started using it on the beach, it became 'The Bogger'.
Just get a 1920 Dodge! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/embed/nq2jY1trxqg?rel=0
Not sure about the weight John, they had a full chassis in those days so maybe that's why it stood up to the roll over, also I think the metal body on them was a bit heavier
Here is an interesting link to the history of Dodge cars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge
I've never known any car sales people called Dodge, but I've met a few you could call "Dodgy"
-- Edited by Duh on Tuesday 1st of October 2013 04:22:57 PM
Gday...
Cheers - John
It is amazing stuff John, only narrow tyres on those things also.....
imagine a modern car on its roof then tipped back on its wheels thousands of $ worth of damage
Gday...
I think the clues to its success - and so many of the vehicles in those days -
a) narrow tyres with stiff sidewalls;
b) good ground clearance;
c) the vehicles were quite light in comparison to today;
d) wheel travel was quite good - compared to a 'standard' vehicle today;
e) low gearing (high numerically) giving low top speed, but good torque transference to wheels;
d) low revving motors with good torque.
It was good to see this - AHHHH ... the era of adventure
Cheers - John
Gday...
Bit of info via google on the 1920 Dodge -
Engine: 3,479cc
Power: 30hp (25.76Kw) @ 2,000rpm
Weight: 2245lbs (1018.31kg)
Transmission: 3-speed sliding floor control
They don't make em like they used to
cheers - John
Ah, but can it tow a van at the same time?
Lance C
My late father-in-law used to say "If you can't afford a dodge, dodge a Ford" - and .................................. his surname was Ford !
It is the length of the footprint of the tyre that matters, not the width. He would have been running low pressure as well for the mud.
But what can you say except that some fellows are magicians with their vehicles. They understand how to do it and they have plenty of practice to help.
For the rest of us ordinary types the emphasis has to be on conserving the vehicle and of course the payload.
We had an old Ford on the farm that I remember would go everywhere. In truth though the men knew the land features and walked any path they were unsure of prior, and they did go slowly, picking their way. No-one rushed into mud for fear of the sharp rocks, holes and tree limbs that could rip the fuel lines and so on out of the vehicle. I also remember the old truck dry bogged on dry grass and ball-bearing rubble on the slightest of slopes. -We were once in danger of sliding sideways over a drop with a load and saved only by having just enough space to accelerate slowly at a shallow angle. Very sweaty shirts that day.
The only thing I don't like about modern vehicles are the computer bits such as computer chip dwell angle sensors that save a poofteenth of a mile per gallon and if they fail you are hopelessly stranded with nothing you can do to remedy. Honestly, who would put delicate electronics that hate heat, dust and moisture into a vehicle that can and will go into remote areas? It was government bureaucrats and their 'environmental' legislation that did that I suppose.
-- Edited by johnq on Wednesday 2nd of October 2013 06:41:41 PM
I didn't know you were that old Gary !
I think the high clearance helped too. The old Army Landrover's were useless in mud, no ground clearance and if they went down in the mud to the floor it acted like a suction cup.....
that was till i bought my colorado nevaagain
dibs
That was a good giggle, and a little bit of a trip down memory lane. No, I'm not that old, but I spent my teenage years on Macleay Island in Moreton Bay. No licence or rego needed there in those days, so there were all sorts of weird and wonderful vehicles.
And the rollover reminded me of the boys rolling the Morrie..Morris Minor..then getting it upright again amid raucous laughter, drove it home, and just chopped off the dented roof!
I was on an army camp in NSW and we were on a bush track with large hills, our 4WD Landrovers were towing 1 ton trailers and were struggling to get up over the hills, a local farmer came along in a Holden FJ ute, he obviously knew the area and how to drive on it, took the hill we were on at speed (we could see him coming up the road flat chat) up and over leaving us in his dust........grrrrr....
So not what you've got but how you drive it in the conditions
My cousin used to work on the Picton pipeline and I remember him saying that LandRovers were the worst of the three vehicles that they used, with the Nissan Patrol being the best. In the 1970s a mate had a LandRover which couldn't do better than 100kph on a downhill run.
In the very early model ones (around late 59 early 1960's) we found the low ground clearance and floor acted as a suction cup, in mud touching the floor they stuck fast. Pretty useless both in Oz and PNG where we used them. On the other hand, the US type jeep you see in War movies were good in PNG as they were lighter and if stuck a few blokes could just lift them out.
We had our Land Rover in the 80's, and it was old then. I used to drive it from Warrego NT into Tennant Creek to shop. I'd often set the hand throttle so I could get my feet off the hot floor. And if the wind was blowing the right way it'd be a quick trip, but if not, it was very very slow. I once got a flat tyre. Luckily I was in town and some good samaritan changed it for me. There was no way I could get that spare off the bonnet, let alone change the damn thing!
We had a perfectly good Kingswood wagon before that. Mum thought we were mad. In hindsight, maybe we were, but we wanted a 4WD.
When we returned to Brisbane and started using it on the beach, it became 'The Bogger'.