I don't know who thought of it, but I have a rear vision mirror on the left of the van which shows vehicles and walls to be further away than they really are.
There's no curvature on the surface, but it's a very dangerous mirror. I don't know if I've cut off anyone as I return to the left land after overtaking, but the chances are pretty high that I might have come close.
I went to a local glass place who will replace the mirror, IF I remove it first, then break the mirror, and all will be replaced in the fullness of time.
What I want to know is, who the hell installed these dangerous mirrors in the first place?
The driver's side mirror is great, the inside rear vision mirror is almost useless because of the cupboard fit out and the column between the 2 rear doors.
Clare46 said
07:58 AM Sep 29, 2013
I had one like that on the left side of my last car and now on my new car it is on the drivers side. If I have to have one I think I preferred it on the left side.
Yuglamron said
02:05 PM Sep 29, 2013
I would imagine that your vehicle was designed as a Left Hand Drive vehicle and they used flat glass mirrors. Never changed from flat when they made them right hand drive.
Personally I would opt for a side camera to make it safer especially if it was my work vehicle and it would be tax deductible.
Lots of makes out there but one good lot are Polaris GPS and camera systems. You can have up to three cameras on your rig. Left right and rear.
chopit said
01:22 AM Sep 30, 2013
I don't know about all cameras but mine is a fish eye lens.
Handy but the distortion to the sides would be just as awkward
as your mirror,I would think.
( Dad's Day pressie from Repco )
Olley46 said
08:35 PM Sep 30, 2013
Cruising Granny wrote:
I don't know who thought of it, but I have a rear vision mirror on the left of the van which shows vehicles and walls to be further away than they really are.
There's no curvature on the surface, but it's a very dangerous mirror. I don't know if I've cut off anyone as I return to the left land after overtaking, but the chances are pretty high that I might have come close.
I went to a local glass place who will replace the mirror, IF I remove it first, then break the mirror, and all will be replaced in the fullness of time.
What I want to know is, who the hell installed these dangerous mirrors in the first place?
The driver's side mirror is great, the inside rear vision mirror is almost useless because of the cupboard fit out and the column between the 2 rear doors.
The mirror that you are referring to are what they call CONVEX MIRROR,supposed to give a wide angle view for safety,can't agree more like you I wrecon they are dangerous.
Lance C
ken thomas said
09:27 PM Sep 30, 2013
The new ford ranger has these dangerous mirrors on both sides, had them replaced in Airlie beach after I nearly run a police car off the road
Ken
glendadon said
07:39 PM Oct 1, 2013
Hello I went to a glass place and got new mirrors cut for my xtrail and now no longer have that problem,it cost about $50 for the two to be cut and fitted over the mirrors a good investment.
Regards
Don & Glenda
D and D said
04:30 AM Oct 2, 2013
If you're towing a van don't you need extension mirrors that are different from the mirrors fitted to the tug?
dieseltojo said
04:06 PM Oct 2, 2013
Hi Cruising Granny, You can easily look out of a driver side window and see side on cars with a head check. Not so easy on the left side of the car and the orientation Scope of adjustment is different on the left side mirror of a vehicle. Those who have fitted their own fancy (Clearview mirrors may have noticed that.)
So you will find most vehicles , for safety reasons, are fitted with convex mirrors to give a wider view of traffic conditions on that blind side. So you see a lot more for the same sized glass.
You may well void the roadworthy of your vehicles registration to change that mirror. Just talking here.
I looked it up and it does say flat is ok. What I was trying to find was .... Is it ok to change a car registered with a design rule?...that is "can you legally change a safety feature they had to provide to sell the car here. It's a bit hard to know.
Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 14/01
Rear Vision Mirrors) 2006
14.4.5. Mirrors on the driver's side shall be flat, and mirrors on the passenger's
side may be flat or convex.
14.4.5.1. 'Convex mirrors', if fitted, shall meet the requirements of Clauses
-- Edited by dieseltojo on Wednesday 2nd of October 2013 04:26:13 PM
Joe50 said
04:44 AM Oct 3, 2013
hmmmm ... my 2012 Ford Focus came standard with convex mirrors for both driver's and passenger's sides. I'm used to them now but they're diabolical at night - never can be sure exactly where following cars are.
PeterD said
01:53 AM Oct 4, 2013
dieseltojo wrote:Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 14/01
Rear Vision Mirrors) 2006
14.4.5. Mirrors on the driver's side shall be flat, and mirrors on the passenger's
side may be flat or convex.
14.4.5.1. 'Convex mirrors', if fitted, shall meet the requirements of Clauses
I don't know who thought of it, but I have a rear vision mirror on the left of the van which shows vehicles and walls to be further away than they really are.
There's no curvature on the surface, but it's a very dangerous mirror. I don't know if I've cut off anyone as I return to the left land after overtaking, but the chances are pretty high that I might have come close.
I went to a local glass place who will replace the mirror, IF I remove it first, then break the mirror, and all will be replaced in the fullness of time.
What I want to know is, who the hell installed these dangerous mirrors in the first place?
The driver's side mirror is great, the inside rear vision mirror is almost useless because of the cupboard fit out and the column between the 2 rear doors.
I had one like that on the left side of my last car and now on my new car it is on the drivers side. If I have to have one I think I preferred it on the left side.
I would imagine that your vehicle was designed as a Left Hand Drive vehicle and they used flat glass mirrors. Never changed from flat when they made them right hand drive.
Personally I would opt for a side camera to make it safer especially if it was my work vehicle and it would be tax deductible.
Lots of makes out there but one good lot are Polaris GPS and camera systems. You can have up to three cameras on your rig. Left right and rear.
Handy but the distortion to the sides would be just as awkward
as your mirror,I would think.
( Dad's Day pressie from Repco )
The mirror that you are referring to are what they call CONVEX MIRROR,supposed to give a wide angle view for safety,can't agree more like you I wrecon they are dangerous.
Lance C
Ken
Hello I went to a glass place and got new mirrors cut for my xtrail and now no longer have that problem,it cost about $50 for the two to be cut and fitted over the mirrors a good investment.
Regards
Don & Glenda
Hi Cruising Granny, You can easily look out of a driver side window and see side on cars with a head check.
Not so easy on the left side of the car and the orientation Scope of adjustment is different on the left side mirror of a vehicle. Those who have fitted their own fancy (Clearview mirrors may have noticed that.)
So you will find most vehicles , for safety reasons, are fitted with convex mirrors to give a wider view of traffic conditions on that blind side. So you see a lot more for the same sized glass.
You may well void the roadworthy of your vehicles registration to change that mirror. Just talking here.
I looked it up and it does say flat is ok. What I was trying to find was .... Is it ok to change a car registered with a design rule?...that is "can you legally change a safety feature they had to provide to sell the car here. It's a bit hard to know.
Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 14/01
Rear Vision Mirrors) 2006
14.4.5. Mirrors on the driver's side shall be flat, and mirrors on the passenger's
side may be flat or convex.
14.4.5.1. 'Convex mirrors', if fitted, shall meet the requirements of Clauses
14.2.4.2.1 and 14.2.4.2.2.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.comlaw.gov.au%2FDetails%2FF2007C00022%2F2ae6dad9-3fa1-4ebe-b500-55fb31650d6c&ei=FbtLUu3SKcWeiAeUyIHYAw&usg=AFQjCNEovjUc151NN
-- Edited by dieseltojo on Wednesday 2nd of October 2013 04:26:13 PM
ADR 15 is for windscreen demisting
ADR Applicability Summary
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Monday 7th of October 2013 12:54:32 PM