It is a great Idea without doubt, but, Leverage would be my concern.
If the bracket is pulled towards the outside of the awning the straight edge of the hinge will push the right side of the awning channel upwards, and the scroll side of the hinge will push the left side of the awning channel downwards thus rendering the channel bent.
OR, do you just anchor the awning down in a vertical direction, or have I completely missed the purpose of the bracket??
Is this something new or has it been in use for a while?
Really not wishing to be smart, just looking at it from a leverage point of view.
-- Edited by Mark on Friday 13th of September 2013 10:33:50 PM
MA247 said
01:08 AM Sep 14, 2013
Get a 3inch (75mm ) door hinge and cut as shown in photo make sure hinge fits into awning slot
We've seen 2 caravans damaged by their awning ripping off in heavy wind. It scared us. The first one was hit by a sudden windgust on a quiet day, and the awning which was tied down, including guy ropes and pegs, flicked over the roof of the van with such force that it pulled the pegs out of the ground, and threw one of the metal pegs through the hood of the tow-vehicle! The hole was about 10mms wide!
The other one was in a repair shop, and the whole side of the van had to be replaced.
In windy conditions, unless you have a full annexe which stops the wind from getting under the awning, roll it in.
-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Saturday 14th of September 2013 09:51:04 AM
MA247 said
02:53 PM Sep 14, 2013
Mark&Linda I bought one a while ago I just mad it simple ,I have been using them a few months and have had no problem with them.
Even in heavy wind .
Alan
GaryKelly said
05:05 PM Sep 14, 2013
Good advice, Gerty.
Mark said
09:38 PM Sep 14, 2013
MA247 wrote:
Mark&Linda I bought one a while ago I just mad it simple ,I have been using them a few months and have had no problem with them. Even in heavy wind . Alan
Thanks for that MA247
I use a butchers hook at each end and drop my tie downs off of that out at 45 dergrees, was interested in your invention for another purpose, I'll knock one up and give it a go. Cheers
M&L
Mark said
09:39 PM Sep 14, 2013
Gerty Dancer wrote:
In windy conditions, unless you have a full annexe which stops the wind from getting under the awning, roll it in.
-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Saturday 14th of September 2013 09:51:04 AM
Always do Gerty, thanks for the advice though.
Mark
Cruising Granny said
05:51 AM Sep 15, 2013
It's hard to be on awning duty when I'm 3000 kms away. I don't have the walls up for a couple of reasons relative to this site.
The awning is secured at each end by the storm flaps, and the legs are pegged into the ground, and ropes are tying down each end over the end cross bars. I have straight beams under the awning from the van to the roller and another one lying over the top of those because the annexe doesn't have much fall. I've had to assist run-off as I found in 2008 that an awning without much fall can hold about 500litres of water before the roller starts to bow.
So far it's survived all the raging winds Adelaide has had in the past 3 months. So I must be doing something right. My neighbours watch out for me when I'm away, for which I am eternally grateful.
MA247 said
11:36 PM Sep 15, 2013
Another use the war office. Uses it for her smalls,what was your other use .
Alan
Mark said
05:08 AM Sep 16, 2013
We have a privacy shade which blocks out 90% of everything, light/breeze, so my plans was, make a very simple "more open" shade cloth for when we have a bit more space around us and affix it to maybe 5 of those brackets with snap clips. If I make one and it is successful I let you have a piccie.
Cheers
Gerty Dancer said
03:17 PM Sep 16, 2013
Good idea MA 247, I like the shade-cloth idea too Mark.
MA247 said
06:27 PM Sep 16, 2013
Sorry I forgot to put pics in for the other use the wife uses clip for. Still learning about GN forum how to use.likeyour idea Mark Cruising Granny 500 litres of water is 500 kilo half.a tonne
Whatever means of anchorage system you use it needs to be a quick release system so when that unexpected wind pops up the system can be droped asap & awning rolled up, the only place for it in windy conditions.
I use the same spring clips as Alan, only they are on the end of the guy ropes which go around the end of the drum & clip back to the guy rope.
Its just loosen guy rope & unclip, drop to ground & roll up awning.
Those brackets would have to be removed before roll up.
Also use the shade cloth outer wall at times. A sudden storm one night, droped the ropes & rolled the awning in with the shade cloth still attached, no problem & sorted it the next morning.
JC.
-- Edited by justcruisin01 on Tuesday 17th of September 2013 09:15:10 PM
MA247 said
10:24 PM Sep 17, 2013
Hi mark just one more thing I was told by many people ,in vans & shows never put ropes around Center axel of awning
might bend.
alan
MA247 said
02:42 PM Sep 18, 2013
I under stand what your saying Jim but it doesn't take long to unclip ropes slide it out and roll up awning .
It is a great Idea without doubt, but, Leverage would be my concern.
If the bracket is pulled towards the outside of the awning the straight edge of the hinge will push the right side of the awning channel upwards, and the scroll side of the hinge will push the left side of the awning channel downwards thus rendering the channel bent.
OR, do you just anchor the awning down in a vertical direction, or have I completely missed the purpose of the bracket??
Is this something new or has it been in use for a while?
Really not wishing to be smart, just looking at it from a leverage point of view.
-- Edited by Mark on Friday 13th of September 2013 10:33:50 PM
Get a 3inch (75mm ) door hinge and cut as shown in photo make sure hinge fits into awning slot
We've seen 2 caravans damaged by their awning ripping off in heavy wind. It scared us. The first one was hit by a sudden windgust on a quiet day, and the awning which was tied down, including guy ropes and pegs, flicked over the roof of the van with such force that it pulled the pegs out of the ground, and threw one of the metal pegs through the hood of the tow-vehicle! The hole was about 10mms wide!
The other one was in a repair shop, and the whole side of the van had to be replaced.
In windy conditions, unless you have a full annexe which stops the wind from getting under the awning, roll it in.
-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Saturday 14th of September 2013 09:51:04 AM
Even in heavy wind .
Alan
Thanks for that MA247
I use a butchers hook at each end and drop my tie downs off of that out at 45 dergrees, was interested in your invention for another purpose, I'll knock one up and give it a go. Cheers
M&L
Always do Gerty, thanks for the advice though.
Mark
The awning is secured at each end by the storm flaps, and the legs are pegged into the ground, and ropes are tying down each end over the end cross bars. I have straight beams under the awning from the van to the roller and another one lying over the top of those because the annexe doesn't have much fall. I've had to assist run-off as I found in 2008 that an awning without much fall can hold about 500litres of water before the roller starts to bow.
So far it's survived all the raging winds Adelaide has had in the past 3 months. So I must be doing something right. My neighbours watch out for me when I'm away, for which I am eternally grateful.
Alan
We have a privacy shade which blocks out 90% of everything, light/breeze, so my plans was, make a very simple "more open" shade cloth for when we have a bit more space around us and affix it to maybe 5 of those brackets with snap clips. If I make one and it is successful I let you have a piccie.
Cheers
Still learning about GN forum how to use.likeyour idea Mark Cruising Granny 500 litres of water is 500 kilo half.a tonne
Whatever means of anchorage system you use it needs to be a quick release system so when that unexpected wind pops up the system can be droped asap & awning rolled up, the only place for it in windy conditions.
I use the same spring clips as Alan, only they are on the end of the guy ropes which go around the end of the drum & clip back to the guy rope.
Its just loosen guy rope & unclip, drop to ground & roll up awning.
Those brackets would have to be removed before roll up.
Also use the shade cloth outer wall at times. A sudden storm one night, droped the ropes & rolled the awning in with the shade cloth still attached, no problem & sorted it the next morning.
JC.
-- Edited by justcruisin01 on Tuesday 17th of September 2013 09:15:10 PM
Hi mark just one more thing I was told by many people ,in vans & shows never put ropes around Center axel of awning
might bend.
alan
I under stand what your saying Jim but it doesn't take long to unclip ropes slide it out and roll up awning .
i like your new tug ....AlanAlan
Lance C
I tried that ,but the eye bolt snapped off and I had a bugger of I time getting the broken stub out ..Had the right size bolt
6mm .but still a very good tie down.Olley46