Just heard on ABC news that a man aged 24 has been reported to have been taken by a croc while swimming in croc infested waters while staying at the Mary River Wilderness Park between Darwin and Kakadu N/P.
GaryKelly said
09:37 PM Aug 25, 2013
Not surprising.
Big Gorilla said
10:48 PM Aug 25, 2013
Never smile at a crocodile !!!
Happywanderer said
11:23 PM Aug 25, 2013
Oh Yuck, that's gruesome. What a waste of a life.
bill12 said
12:36 AM Aug 26, 2013
Yes , the Mary River is FULL of them . Go down to the barrage at Shady camp with a torch at night- I counted 29 pairs of eyes! not a good place for a swim...........Bill
Sheba said
03:04 AM Aug 26, 2013
Got the link from elsewhere. Stupid people make me soooooo angry.
I was up there last year for a folk festival and there were families camped about 6 ft from the river with little kids. They were told there were crocs and they had dogs too. I saw a croc while walking down by the river the first day I got there and I was a fair way back. People are crazy.
Tess
VKPORTABLE said
08:14 AM Aug 26, 2013
Well... he won't get a second run at that now will he.
It is similar to those signs you see saying 'Unstable cliff edge, do not stand near edge' with a group of people looking aimlessly over the edge beside the sign. Most areas in the top end, especially those populated by people have plenty of signs around where there are croccies around.
At any rate the basic rule is if you can't see the bottom and don't know 100% it's croc free - don't go in it. What's better - been hot and sticky or lukewarm and chewed.
herbie said
08:43 PM Aug 26, 2013
Just read on the news that police have recovered this young guys body along with a five meter croc..
The report said that the rescue people had ended up shooting four crocs.
-- Edited by herbie on Monday 26th of August 2013 11:06:36 PM
freehazzas said
11:52 PM Aug 26, 2013
Yep, tool of the week. Some people are just invincable.
Gerty Dancer said
12:51 AM Aug 27, 2013
I feel very sorry for his grieving family. He'd been at a birthday party, might have had a drink or two? that makes young fellows feel even more bullet-proof than usual.
Everywhere you go, theres people who wont obey the advice on signposts.
jules47 said
04:22 AM Aug 27, 2013
Why the croc - it not it's fault! Just doing what comes naturally!
Sheba said
05:40 AM Aug 27, 2013
jules47 wrote:
Why the croc - it not it's fault! Just doing what comes naturally!
That's exactly why I get angry Jules. The Croc always pays for human stupidity.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Cloak said
01:26 AM Aug 28, 2013
Perhaps a Darwin award nomination... no sorry that would be poor taste...
VKPORTABLE said
05:54 AM Aug 28, 2013
herbie wrote:
Just read on the news that police have recovered this young guys body along with a five meter croc..
The report said that the rescue people had ended up shooting four crocs.
-- Edited by herbie on Monday 26th of August 2013 11:06:36 PM
I for one don't agree with this method, same as with the Sharks. Even if you find said croc or shark with half an arm hanging out of it's jaws so what? You venture into water's you do so with the knowledge that there is some element of risk involved with doing so.
The benefit of capturing it and relocating it to a more suitable area outweighs the benefit of planting a slug into it's head.
Nelly said
03:43 PM Aug 28, 2013
I know it is not an ideal thing to destroy the animal but my way of thinking is that once an animal has a taste of something different - and is easy prey - that is what it goes after. I have had a bit to do with dingoes and also domestic dogs and once they have a taste of sheep or cattle there is only one way of dealing with them unfortunately. Happy camping.
adreamer said
07:48 PM Aug 28, 2013
Well who was here first????
Sheba said
01:58 AM Aug 29, 2013
Nelly wrote:
I know it is not an ideal thing to destroy the animal but my way of thinking is that once an animal has a taste of something different - and is easy prey - that is what it goes after. I have had a bit to do with dingoes and also domestic dogs and once they have a taste of sheep or cattle there is only one way of dealing with them unfortunately. Happy camping.
Not quite the same thing Nelly. Humans should have more sense than to put themselves at risk, and in any case, they can always re-locate so-called "problem" Crocs.
Cheers,
Sheba.
gold dandelion said
04:31 AM Aug 29, 2013
they say he was a local as well. the old saying, crocs don't eat humans....only eat idiots
VKPORTABLE said
01:02 PM Aug 29, 2013
Nelly wrote:
I have had a bit to do with dingoes and also domestic dogs and once they have a taste of sheep or cattle there is only one way of dealing with them unfortunately. Happy camping.
Different situation. Although you are correct in what you say with respect to dogs/dingoes. You can try and relocate them, but they always come back!
Crocs don't 'get a taste for humans', they are opportunistic. They don't go on hunting expeditions, they wait for it to come to them. So if there is a ready supply of fresh food willing to waltz up to their little ol' patch of water, be it other animals or human they are more then happy to lay in wait for weeks on end.
Even something as simple as carrying a stick with you and if in doubt throwing it in the water will raise the interest of a croc and it will almost always launch in it's direction. Of course by then it is going to be pissed off so you need a good escape route if employing this technique
Nelly said
06:38 PM Aug 29, 2013
I know that this is a different situation with dogs/dingoes but I did think that the croc would be the same - as the saying goes 'you learn something different everyday'. I fully agree that humans ignore signs that say croc area (or whatever) also don't go near the edge as VKPORTABLE wrote - I think that the thought 'it won't happen to me' comes into play. Happy camping.
herbie said
06:49 PM Aug 29, 2013
I also suggest you read some of the news reports, as they say alcohol was involved as they were out there celebrating someone's birthday...
Sheba said
03:18 AM Aug 30, 2013
VKPORTABLE wrote:
You can try and relocate them, but they always come back!
Sorry VKPORTABLE. I should have been more specific. I meant relocated to either a Zoo/Wild Life Park, or Croc. Farm. You're right about them going back to their old Territory.
I believe Steve Irwin once took one from one side of Cape York to the other, but they discovered after a period of time, that it had gone back "home".
Cheers,
Sheba.
rockylizard said
03:40 AM Aug 30, 2013
Gday...
HMMMMM .... so if a dopey human gets into, or too close to, a creek/river where crocs are known to live .. and the croc decides to kill the stoopid human, we then go and kill the croc (or any croc we can find) as 'punishment' ... there, that'll larn them !
Therefore, if a stoopid croc decides to wander foolishly onto a road and a 4X4 hits it and kills it ... should we then hunt down the 4X4 driver (or any 4X4 driver we find) and kill them ?
And cars kill people too .. but we take very little action to 'get retribution' against a driver killing/maiming another human.
Just makes me wonder. Leave em alone - and stay outta their territory.
Cheers - John
jules47 said
03:46 AM Aug 30, 2013
RL!!
johnq said
07:44 AM Aug 30, 2013
Crocodile farms don't raise them as pets. It is a commercial operation.
Is the difference between 'harvest' and 'shot' just expensive trapping and transport?
johnq said
12:10 AM Aug 31, 2013
Sheba wrote:
Hi johnq. I think you'll find that the ones that are usually relocated to Croc. Farms, are usuall used for breeding. I believe the "harvested" farm stock are usually smaller than so-called "problem" Crocs.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Hi Sheba,
Yes, maybe*. But where is the practical difference if it is the kids getting the chop and not dad? [Similarly collecting eggs in the wild to hatch and raise crocs for slaughter on the farm?]
On the farm, .22 cal up close, or a chisel to the neck. Humane slaughter - Code of Practice for crocodile farming.
If dad was culled in the wild, it would be the same humane slaughter - one shot. Use the $$thousands saved for other priorities.
There is no question of sustainability. The place where the accident happened is reputed to have the highest population density of crocodiles anywhere in the world.
While the person who died made a stupid choice, he did not deserve to lose his life. We should be more considerate of the value of human life and the grieving of bereaved family and friends.
*<13.1.1
Wild caught captive farm and zoo stock
Problem crocodiles(now known as crocodiles of concern) taken into farms do not have to be tagged.
They are only eligible for slaughter after being scientifically examined by Department staff and should be
held alive until then. Progeny of crocodiles of concern are not subject to this requirement. Disposal of
crocodiles of concern ' may also be through sales of live animals to other farms or to zoos, subject to
authorisation under the Nature Conservation Act 1992>
- example of regulations taken from, http://www.ehp.qld.gov.au/register/p00065aa.pdf
-- Edited by johnq on Saturday 31st of August 2013 12:23:51 AM
Sheba said
01:33 AM Aug 31, 2013
Hi johnq. I think you'll find that the ones that are usually relocated to Croc. Farms, are usuall used for breeding. I believe the "harvested" farm stock are usually smaller than so-called "problem" Crocs.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Rondavoo said
12:53 AM Sep 7, 2013
Hi Kerry and Paul,
Sorry my comment is not about crocs but would love to know how you find your 5th wheeler. Can you see a single woman handling one,
Just heard on ABC news that a man aged 24 has been reported to have been taken by a croc while swimming in croc infested waters while staying at the Mary River Wilderness Park between Darwin and Kakadu N/P.
Never smile at a crocodile !!!
Got the link from elsewhere. Stupid people make me soooooo angry.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-24/d ... nd/4910386
Cheers,
Sheba.
No brain no pain.
Tess
Well... he won't get a second run at that now will he.
It is similar to those signs you see saying 'Unstable cliff edge, do not stand near edge' with a group of people looking aimlessly over the edge beside the sign.
Most areas in the top end, especially those populated by people have plenty of signs around where there are croccies around.
At any rate the basic rule is if you can't see the bottom and don't know 100% it's croc free - don't go in it.
What's better - been hot and sticky or lukewarm and chewed.
Just read on the news that police have recovered this young guys body along with a five meter croc..
The report said that the rescue people had ended up shooting four crocs.
-- Edited by herbie on Monday 26th of August 2013 11:06:36 PM
Everywhere you go, theres people who wont obey the advice on signposts.
That's exactly why I get angry Jules. The Croc always pays for human stupidity.
Cheers,
Sheba.
I for one don't agree with this method, same as with the Sharks.
Even if you find said croc or shark with half an arm hanging out of it's jaws so what? You venture into water's you do so with the knowledge that there is some element of risk involved with doing so.
The benefit of capturing it and relocating it to a more suitable area outweighs the benefit of planting a slug into it's head.
Not quite the same thing Nelly. Humans should have more sense than to put themselves at risk, and in any case, they can always re-locate so-called "problem" Crocs.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Different situation. Although you are correct in what you say with respect to dogs/dingoes. You can try and relocate them, but they always come back!
Crocs don't 'get a taste for humans', they are opportunistic. They don't go on hunting expeditions, they wait for it to come to them. So if there is a ready supply of fresh food willing to waltz up to their little ol' patch of water, be it other animals or human they are more then happy to lay in wait for weeks on end.
Even something as simple as carrying a stick with you and if in doubt throwing it in the water will raise the interest of a croc and it will almost always launch in it's direction.
Of course by then it is going to be pissed off so you need a good escape route if employing this technique
I also suggest you read some of the news reports, as they say alcohol was involved as they were out there celebrating someone's birthday...
Sorry VKPORTABLE. I should have been more specific. I meant relocated to either a Zoo/Wild Life Park, or Croc. Farm. You're right about them going back to their old Territory.
I believe Steve Irwin once took one from one side of Cape York to the other, but they discovered after a period of time, that it had gone back "home".
Cheers,
Sheba.
Gday...
HMMMMM .... so if a dopey human gets into, or too close to, a creek/river where crocs are known to live .. and the croc decides to kill the stoopid human, we then go and kill the croc (or any croc we can find) as 'punishment' ... there, that'll larn them !
Therefore, if a stoopid croc decides to wander foolishly onto a road and a 4X4 hits it and kills it ... should we then hunt down the 4X4 driver (or any 4X4 driver we find) and kill them ?
And cars kill people too .. but we take very little action to 'get retribution' against a driver killing/maiming another human.
Just makes me wonder. Leave em alone - and stay outta their territory.
Cheers - John
Is the difference between 'harvest' and 'shot' just expensive trapping and transport?
Hi Sheba,
Yes, maybe*. But where is the practical difference if it is the kids getting the chop and not dad? [Similarly collecting eggs in the wild to hatch and raise crocs for slaughter on the farm?]
On the farm, .22 cal up close, or a chisel to the neck. Humane slaughter - Code of Practice for crocodile farming.
If dad was culled in the wild, it would be the same humane slaughter - one shot. Use the $$thousands saved for other priorities.
There is no question of sustainability. The place where the accident happened is reputed to have the highest population density of crocodiles anywhere in the world.
While the person who died made a stupid choice, he did not deserve to lose his life. We should be more considerate of the value of human life and the grieving of bereaved family and friends.
*<13.1.1
-- Edited by johnq on Saturday 31st of August 2013 12:23:51 AM
Hi johnq. I think you'll find that the ones that are usually relocated to Croc. Farms, are usuall used for breeding. I believe the "harvested" farm stock are usually smaller than so-called "problem" Crocs.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Hi Kerry and Paul,
Sorry my comment is not about crocs but would love to know how you find your 5th wheeler. Can you see a single woman handling one,