Some of the characters, Michael Douglas as Liberace, Mat Damon as Scott his lover, Dan Ackroyd as Liberace's manager and Debbie Reynolds as his mother....
-- Edited by Duh on Tuesday 13th of August 2013 12:00:46 PM
Dougwe said
12:24 AM Aug 13, 2013
I saw the trailer a while back Vic and looked good, make up looks great too. I will check out cinema over in Leongatha, Victoria and see if it is on, otherwise I might see it up in town next week.
Santa said
05:35 PM Aug 14, 2013
Has has excellent reviews, looking forward to seeing it.
Duh said
05:46 PM Aug 14, 2013
Santa wrote:
Has has excellent reviews, looking forward to seeing it.
Let's know how you found it Santa when you do, I remember older ladies (mum's) years ago loved his TV show because he always said he loved him mom and would dedicate songs to her.....I think it hit the spot with mum's....
jimbo said
03:58 PM Aug 15, 2013
Watched the Trailer...makes me sick.......
Duh said
06:22 PM Aug 15, 2013
jimbo wrote:
Watched the Trailer...makes me sick.......
Yes it is a bit "in your face" Jim, there is no way they could get me to kiss another bloke no matter how much they paid, as far as I know the two actors involved are straight (who knows these days, all the women thought Rock Hudson was straight in the beginning) but I suppose professional actors look at it differently and it is just a role they have to play.
PS: I am not making a judgement on others, just saying it's not for me, also I did put some will find the movie to be confronting in my first post. Having said that the movie and acting was well done about a lifestyle most of us would never experience or want to.
Santa said
08:06 PM Aug 16, 2013
jimbo wrote:
Watched the Trailer...makes me sick.......
It's called redneck syndrome, Liberace was a fine artist and entertainer, his life style choices were his own business.
Sheba said
07:58 PM Aug 17, 2013
Some people still don't seem to want to realise that being Gay is not a matter of choice. Luck of the draw. You're either born that way or not.
I've had some very good friends of both sexes who were gay.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Saturday 17th of August 2013 07:59:26 PM
Dougwe said
01:18 AM Aug 18, 2013
The first chance I will get is this Thursday in Leongatha, South Gippsland, Victoria. Not on till then.
Duh said
07:39 AM Aug 18, 2013
Sheba wrote:
Some people still don't seem to want to realise that being Gay is not a matter of choice. Luck of the draw. You're either born that way or not.
I've had some very good friends of both sexes who were gay.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Totally agree Sheba, no doubt some on this forum have a child or other relative that is also. Glad I'm not though, too much discrimination and prejudice in the community about it although it is getting better, but a long way to go yet. I take my hat off to those celebrities and others who come out publicly too, they help break down the barriers for others with the same gender leanings.
Duh said
11:02 PM Aug 18, 2013
jimbo wrote:
Some on this forum! prejudice! Hope your not refering to me It is a disgusting habit....The only thing I agree with the muslims about.... They don't muk around with what they get up too..."Off with their Heads
Which head Jim ?
dorian said
11:47 PM Aug 18, 2013
Sheba wrote:
Some people still don't seem to want to realise that being Gay is not a matter of choice. Luck of the draw. You're either born that way or not.
Sexual preferences may or may not be a matter of choice, but lifestyles are. To consider an analogy, people are born with fat genes, so one should pity them and understand them, but one should not condone their overeating. Similarly, I should be able to denounce the act of buggery for what it is, without being seen as a bigot. If people engage in such acts in private, whether heterosexual or homosexual, then I have nothing to say against them. It's only when they preach to me about it and demand that I respect it as an acceptable part of an alternative lifestyle.
As for Muslims outlawing homosexuality, has anyone ever actually read the Bible?
Duh said
02:02 AM Aug 19, 2013
Some interesting reading about Homophobia on this link, including religious beliefs;
I prefer not to dwell on any individual's sexuality, as long as I'm not directly confronted by it. I see Liberace in the same way as Peter Allen, Freddie Mercury, or Oscar Wilde (the author of "The Picture of Dorian Gray"). All were artists, performers, and literary figures who enriched the lives of millions of others via their work, and we should be grateful for that. That's all I need to know.
As for religion (a taboo subject in this forum), both Islam and Christianity denounce homosexuality, so one cannot be a believer and be gay at the same time. That would require Orwellian doublethink. The aforementioned Wikipedia article takes the all too typical approach of attempting to "reinterpret" the scriptures to make them fit today's changing moral values. Muslims, OTOH, faithfully adhere to the original text, albeit with outrageous consequences.
My philosophy is to allow people to be and do what they want, unless it interferes with the peace and security of others, and help those who can't help themselves. That necessarily makes me an atheist and a socialist.
Duh said
05:46 PM Aug 19, 2013
dorian wrote: My philosophy is to allow people to be and do what they want, unless it interferes with the peace and security of others, and help those who can't help themselves. That necessarily makes me an atheist and a socialist.
We're on the same page there dorian on both counts.
I also like to try to keep open minded about people and not to judge them on their preferences, but view them through their actions and their contribution to society as a whole.
I saw that movie by default as SWMBO wanted to see it so I tagged along, not sorry I did though. I learnt something in the movie on a subject I have an interest in to do with health in general, something I wasn't aware of (a health hazard and nothing to do with being gay).
The dog lady said
06:48 AM Aug 22, 2013
Sheba wrote:
Some people still don't seem to want to realise that being Gay is not a matter of choice. Luck of the draw. You're either born that way or not.
I've had some very good friends of both sexes who were gay.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Saturday 17th of August 2013 07:59:26 PM
Totally agree Sheba. And some I've known some who would not have chosen to be gay as they were rejected by society and often family. I don't imagine they could make themselves be heterosexual any more than I could become gay. We are what we are.
Gerty Dancer said
04:51 PM Aug 22, 2013
Long before I was born, an uncle committed suicide in England. I wasn't told until I was old enough to understand that he was gay, and would have been rejected by his family, his church, and at the time he would have been a criminal too. Poor bloke was anything but "gay", how did we begin to use that term?
Duh said
06:05 PM Aug 22, 2013
Other than their choice of sexual partners, these days there is nothing that some gays do in private that is not done by some hetrosexual couples in private as well. Whether gay or straight it is up to the couples to choose their own sexual habits they are both happy with.
I remember reading an article somewhere written by a doctor that said if things that are done in a consensual sexual relationship are agreeable to both parties and both are comfortable with it then that is ok. All parties however do need to take precautions though especially those who have casual encounters.
Has anyone else seen the movie yet? I would like to comment on one particular thing in the movie but don't want to spoil it for anyone who might be seeing it, it is about a health risk, but believe it or not it is not about a sexual health risk, but is something I wasn't aware of.
The dog lady said
05:03 AM Aug 23, 2013
Duh wrote:
Snip
Other than their choice of sexual partners, these days there is nothing that some gays do in private that is not done by some hetrosexual couples in private as well. Whether gay or straight it is up to the couples to choose their own sexual habits they are both happy with.
Don't care what people do in bed as long as they're not in my bed! LOL
A tad surprised tho when someone introduced himself to me with
"Hi, I'm John Smith and I'm gay"
I think he had mistaken me for someone who cares!
Duh said
07:24 PM Aug 24, 2013
The dog lady wrote:
Snip......A tad surprised tho when someone introduced himself to me with
"Hi, I'm John Smith and I'm gay"
I was sitting on a bench seat in a shopping mall yesterday waiting for SWMBO and a bloke about 70 came up to me and asked if he could sit on the seat. I said yes, I was just waiting for my wife. He sat down and asked me how I was, and I replied fine and asked how he was.
He told me his name was "Wally he was fine physically but he had mental problems", he couldn't get a beach boys song out of his head, it was about a sloop (can't say I know it) and he wanted to sing it for me. I told him no but he could tell me the words to the song, which he preceded to do (forgotten them now though).
He said he drove his wife and mates mad singing the song all the time so I was just glad he didn't sing it for me. I asked him if he was on medication or was getting professional help for his mental problems and he said he wasn't. I told him he should (nicely) and then he got up, shook my hand and left.....OT but the dog lady's comment about introductions reminded me about it.
Santa said
07:29 PM Aug 24, 2013
Duh wrote:
he couldn't get a beach boys song out of his head, it was about a sloop (can't say I know it) and he wanted to sing it for me.
I learnt something in the movie on a subject I have an interest in to do with health in general, something I wasn't aware of (a health hazard and nothing to do with being gay).
Want to let us in on the secret Vic.? We all might benefit.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Duh said
03:25 AM Aug 25, 2013
Santa wrote:
Duh wrote:
he couldn't get a beach boys song out of his head, it was about a sloop (can't say I know it) and he wanted to sing it for me.
Thanks Santa, now that I've heard it I recognise the song, been sung by a few, Johnny Cash, Waylen Jennings, Kingston Trio etc....
Duh said
03:30 AM Aug 25, 2013
Sheba wrote:
Duh wrote:
I learnt something in the movie on a subject I have an interest in to do with health in general, something I wasn't aware of (a health hazard and nothing to do with being gay).
Want to let us in on the secret Vic.? We all might benefit.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Well seeing as nobody seems in a hurry to see the movie, I may as well tell you.
Liberace was in hospital suffering organ failure, in particular his kidneys and looked like having to go on dialysis.
It turned out he was being poisoned by his stage costumes which were dry cleaned after every performance and the chemicals used in the dry cleaning process were being absorbed into his skin under the hot lights/sweating etc.
He cut out the dry cleaning and his health recovered, I assume he found another way to clean his costumes without chemicals.
The dog lady said
04:56 AM Aug 27, 2013
Snip
It turned out he was being poisoned by his stage costumes which were dry cleaned after every performance and the chemicals used in the dry cleaning process were being absorbed into his skin under the hot lights/sweating.
Guess that's one health problem I don't need to worry about. Can't remeber when I last had something dry-cleaned
Duh said
05:04 AM Aug 27, 2013
The dog lady wrote:
Snip
It turned out he was being poisoned by his stage costumes which were dry cleaned after every performance and the chemicals used in the dry cleaning process were being absorbed into his skin under the hot lights/sweating.
Guess that's one health problem I don't need to worry about. Can't remeber when I last had something dry-cleaned
Same here, haven't done it for years, thank goodness for "drip dry"....
We saw this movie today, interesting movie, superb acting.....won't spoil it with any more info though !
(Yes, worth going to see
)
Quite good Doug, warning though it would be a bit confronting for some if that is the right word....
Here is some history on Liberace, his father was Italian and his mother Polish...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberace
See also this link which has some more info plus a video trailer attached for those who want to see it;
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2013/07/26/245831_entertainment.html
Some of the characters, Michael Douglas as Liberace, Mat Damon as Scott his lover, Dan Ackroyd as Liberace's manager and Debbie Reynolds as his mother....
-- Edited by Duh on Tuesday 13th of August 2013 12:00:46 PM
Has has excellent reviews, looking forward to seeing it.
Let's know how you found it Santa when you do, I remember older ladies (mum's) years ago loved his TV show because he always said he loved him mom and would dedicate songs to her.....I think it hit the spot with mum's....
Yes it is a bit "in your face" Jim, there is no way they could get me to kiss another bloke no matter how much they paid, as far as I know the two actors involved are straight (who knows these days, all the women thought Rock Hudson was straight in the beginning) but I suppose professional actors look at it differently and it is just a role they have to play.
PS: I am not making a judgement on others, just saying it's not for me, also I did put some will find the movie to be confronting in my first post. Having said that the movie and acting was well done about a lifestyle most of us would never experience or want to.
It's called redneck syndrome, Liberace was a fine artist and entertainer, his life style choices were his own business.
Some people still don't seem to want to realise that being Gay is not a matter of choice. Luck of the draw. You're either born that way or not.
I've had some very good friends of both sexes who were gay.
Cheers,
Sheba.
-- Edited by Sheba on Saturday 17th of August 2013 07:59:26 PM
Totally agree Sheba, no doubt some on this forum have a child or other relative that is also. Glad I'm not though, too much discrimination and prejudice in the community about it although it is getting better, but a long way to go yet. I take my hat off to those celebrities and others who come out publicly too, they help break down the barriers for others with the same gender leanings.
Which head Jim ?
Sexual preferences may or may not be a matter of choice, but lifestyles are. To consider an analogy, people are born with fat genes, so one should pity them and understand them, but one should not condone their overeating. Similarly, I should be able to denounce the act of buggery for what it is, without being seen as a bigot. If people engage in such acts in private, whether heterosexual or homosexual, then I have nothing to say against them. It's only when they preach to me about it and demand that I respect it as an acceptable part of an alternative lifestyle.
As for Muslims outlawing homosexuality, has anyone ever actually read the Bible?
Some interesting reading about Homophobia on this link, including religious beliefs;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia
As for religion (a taboo subject in this forum), both Islam and Christianity denounce homosexuality, so one cannot be a believer and be gay at the same time. That would require Orwellian doublethink. The aforementioned Wikipedia article takes the all too typical approach of attempting to "reinterpret" the scriptures to make them fit today's changing moral values. Muslims, OTOH, faithfully adhere to the original text, albeit with outrageous consequences.
My philosophy is to allow people to be and do what they want, unless it interferes with the peace and security of others, and help those who can't help themselves. That necessarily makes me an atheist and a socialist.
We're on the same page there dorian on both counts.
I also like to try to keep open minded about people and not to judge them on their preferences, but view them through their actions and their contribution to society as a whole.
I saw that movie by default as SWMBO wanted to see it so I tagged along, not sorry I did though. I learnt something in the movie on a subject I have an interest in to do with health in general, something I wasn't aware of (a health hazard and nothing to do with being gay).
Totally agree Sheba. And some I've known some who would not have chosen to be gay as they were rejected by society and often family. I don't imagine they could make themselves be heterosexual any more than I could become gay. We are what we are.
Other than their choice of sexual partners, these days there is nothing that some gays do in private that is not done by some hetrosexual couples in private as well. Whether gay or straight it is up to the couples to choose their own sexual habits they are both happy with.
I remember reading an article somewhere written by a doctor that said if things that are done in a consensual sexual relationship are agreeable to both parties and both are comfortable with it then that is ok. All parties however do need to take precautions though especially those who have casual encounters.
Has anyone else seen the movie yet? I would like to comment on one particular thing in the movie but don't want to spoil it for anyone who might be seeing it, it is about a health risk, but believe it or not it is not about a sexual health risk, but is something I wasn't aware of.
Don't care what people do in bed as long as they're not in my bed! LOL
A tad surprised tho when someone introduced himself to me with
"Hi, I'm John Smith and I'm gay"
I think he had mistaken me for someone who cares!
I was sitting on a bench seat in a shopping mall yesterday waiting for SWMBO and a bloke about 70 came up to me and asked if he could sit on the seat. I said yes, I was just waiting for my wife. He sat down and asked me how I was, and I replied fine and asked how he was.
He told me his name was "Wally he was fine physically but he had mental problems", he couldn't get a beach boys song out of his head, it was about a sloop (can't say I know it) and he wanted to sing it for me. I told him no but he could tell me the words to the song, which he preceded to do (forgotten them now though).
He said he drove his wife and mates mad singing the song all the time so I was just glad he didn't sing it for me. I asked him if he was on medication or was getting professional help for his mental problems and he said he wasn't. I told him he should (nicely) and then he got up, shook my hand and left.....OT but the dog lady's comment about introductions reminded me about it.
Here ya go Vic (Sloop John B) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubAjEjkJIJo
Thanks Santa, now that I've heard it I recognise the song, been sung by a few, Johnny Cash, Waylen Jennings, Kingston Trio etc....
Well seeing as nobody seems in a hurry to see the movie, I may as well tell you.
Liberace was in hospital suffering organ failure, in particular his kidneys and looked like having to go on dialysis.
It turned out he was being poisoned by his stage costumes which were dry cleaned after every performance and the chemicals used in the dry cleaning process were being absorbed into his skin under the hot lights/sweating etc.
He cut out the dry cleaning and his health recovered, I assume he found another way to clean his costumes without chemicals.
Snip
It turned out he was being poisoned by his stage costumes which were dry cleaned after every performance and the chemicals used in the dry cleaning process were being absorbed into his skin under the hot lights/sweating.
Guess that's one health problem I don't need to worry about. Can't remeber when I last had something dry-cleaned
Same here, haven't done it for years, thank goodness for "drip dry"....