I know many men - but not all - believe the blacker the billy and better the taste. IMHO that is hogwash! I use mine in and out of the van and also at home and I insist they be kept in as new condition as possible. Mine are years old and still shining. I always smear some washing up detergent around them before putting them on an open fire. They clean up quickly in the washup without any scrubbing or having to use steel wool, but obviously a good idea to just wipe the outside with paper trowel or baby wipe before washing with any other stuff. The process is known as soft soaping and when first introduced they used leftover bits of soap which into collected in a jar and a little water added to,make it like a paste. The washup liquid is easier and quicker than the old method.
jules47 said
05:37 PM Aug 9, 2013
I just make him have a shower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hahahahahahaaa - sorry!!!!! couldn't help myself!!!
Have heard that one before,chaslib - I miss my old boiling billy - it had a spout as well - been a lot of miles, now sitting in sons garage gathering dust!!!
Happywanderer said
06:01 PM Aug 9, 2013
I would be grabbing it out of sons garage Jules. Such a great invention. Saw one at the market couple weeks ago. Should have got it, but thought when on my own probably won't light a fire.
No wonder Billeeee head is so shiny!! It's all the washing up detergent.
rockylizard said
11:03 PM Aug 9, 2013
Gday...
Interesting how we have different ideas, expectations and preferences.
I have always thought that the best reason to keep the billy in its 'blackened' condition (on the outside) was so that it absorbed heat much better - shiny outside 'reflected' heat taking longer to boil. [those with differing proof enter the discussion here ]
I have three 'main' billies -
1. open fire (my favourite) which has its own liddle "sleeping bag" to keep the black off other things - carried in the 4X4. I bought this billy in 1986 in the Alice on my NT trip;
2. for the outside 'camping' gas stove (only gets a bit darker from the gas heat) which also has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - carried in the 4X4. A newer model, bought in 1997 in Brisbane, and;
3. for in the van on the gas stove - it stays much cleaner for some reason but still has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - lives inside the van. This one is the baby of the group - bought in 2003.
I have never in my 50 years of camping seen the need to have a 'shiny' billy. I haven't met many, if any, who clean their billy on the outside.
Cheers - John
chaslib said
02:19 AM Aug 10, 2013
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
Interesting how we have different ideas, expectations and preferences.
I have always thought that the best reason to keep the billy in its 'blackened' condition (on the outside) was so that it absorbed heat much better - shiny outside 'reflected' heat taking longer to boil. [those with differing proof enter the discussion here ]
I have three 'main' billies -
1. open fire (my favourite) which has its own liddle "sleeping bag" to keep the black off other things - carried in the 4X4. I bought this billy in 1986 in the Alice on my NT trip;
2. for the outside 'camping' gas stove (only gets a bit darker from the gas heat) which also has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - carried in the 4X4. A newer model, bought in 1997 in Brisbane, and;
3. for in the van on the gas stove - it stays much cleaner for some reason but still has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - lives inside the van. This one is the baby of the group - bought in 2003.
I have never in my 50 years of camping seen the need to have a 'shiny' billy. I haven't met many, if any, who clean their billy on the outside.
Cheers - John
Ahhhh, John, guess we must agree to disagree, as you say, we all have different expectations and that is what makes each and everyone unique. Perhaps its something about being a female of the species ..... My kids even tell me that I am anal in how I like things done Lol! Just hate the thought of getting that hideous black stuff over each and every thing it touches ... including me. Good luck with your colourful billy collection, i am sure they have served you well, as mine do me!
cheers
Libby
Baz421 said
02:36 AM Aug 10, 2013
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
Interesting how we have different ideas, expectations and preferences.
I have always thought that the best reason to keep the billy in its 'blackened' condition (on the outside) was so that it absorbed heat much better - shiny outside 'reflected' heat taking longer to boil. [those with differing proof enter the discussion here ]
I have three 'main' billies -
1. open fire (my favourite) which has its own liddle "sleeping bag" to keep the black off other things - carried in the 4X4. I bought this billy in 1986 in the Alice on my NT trip;
2. for the outside 'camping' gas stove (only gets a bit darker from the gas heat) which also has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - carried in the 4X4. A newer model, bought in 1997 in Brisbane, and;
3. for in the van on the gas stove - it stays much cleaner for some reason but still has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - lives inside the van. This one is the baby of the group - bought in 2003.
I have never in my 50 years of camping seen the need to have a 'shiny' billy. I haven't met many, if any, who clean their billy on the outside.
Cheers - John
I agree John,,, our campfire billy is as black as the ace of spades,,, why clean the outside???? Takes away the camping / bush feel I think,, am I being a bit romantic (surely not me,, lol). I has a braided fencing wire handle to replace the crummy one it came with.
Ours goes in its place, no cover, but in its place to avoid blackening everything.
PS The inside is clean,,, apart from years of bore water use and calcium stains.
justcruisin01 said
04:15 AM Aug 10, 2013
One 20 + yrs old stainles & black for the fire & looks like it been used. One clean one for the gas stove.
JC.
GaryKelly said
11:36 PM Aug 15, 2013
Instead of a billy, I bought a stainless steel whistling kettle. I hope other campers don't point at me and hold their hands over their mouths.
neilnruth said
12:56 AM Aug 16, 2013
We have a geriatric blue aluminium whistling kettle Gary. At least it tells us when it is boiling! It's been part of our camping for over 30 years.
Beth54 said
03:45 AM Aug 16, 2013
I've had a billy with a pouring spout and a lid for years..yes black on the outside, and has it's own bag. But I don't often do a campfire these days, so it just sits in the pot drawer. When I bought the caravan, I bought a whistling kettle for inside use, but it's since lost it's whistle. Very disappointing, but it still makes a bit of noise to let me know it's boiling.
No offence chaslib, but me thinks your kids may be right.
chaslib said
04:02 AM Aug 16, 2013
Yep, agree the kids are right, but dont tell them. still stick with my anti black Billy's stand ... When you have Only a couple of good Billy's that are used in and out of the van and also at home ... Black is not an a acceptable colour.
Just finished the washup tonight after fried chicken and baked veggies all cooked on the open fire ..... 3 nice shinny billys all in a row ...
And, no offence taken, everyone has their own opinions.
Cheers
Beth54 said
04:17 AM Aug 16, 2013
chaslib wrote:
Yep, agree the kids are right, but dont tell them. still stick with my anti black Billy's stand ... When you have Only a couple of good Billy's that are used in and out of the van and also at home ... Black is not an a acceptable colour.
Just finished the washup tonight after fried chicken and baked veggies all cooked on the open fire ..... 3 nice shinny billys all in a row ...
And, no offence taken, everyone has their own opinions.
Cheers
Good for you! And wouldn't it be a very boring world if we were all the same.
GaryKelly said
12:08 AM Aug 18, 2013
How come we say it would be boring if we were all the same but we point at people who are different? :)
Beth54 said
12:11 AM Aug 18, 2013
GaryKelly wrote:
How come we say it would be boring if we were all the same but we point at people who are different? :)
hmmm
GaryKelly said
09:13 PM Aug 18, 2013
Come to think of it, that's not a bad thing to teach our kids. Kids naturally point and giggle at anyone who is different, which would be an opportune time to explain that variety is the spice of life, and differences are what make life so interesting. With a bit of luck, it might make kids think twice before they ridicule others.
I know many men - but not all - believe the blacker the billy and better the taste. IMHO that is hogwash! I use mine in and out of the van and also at home and I insist they be kept in as new condition as possible. Mine are years old and still shining. I always smear some washing up detergent around them before putting them on an open fire. They clean up quickly in the washup without any scrubbing or having to use steel wool, but obviously a good idea to just wipe the outside with paper trowel or baby wipe before washing with any other stuff. The process is known as soft soaping and when first introduced they used leftover bits of soap which into collected in a jar and a little water added to,make it like a paste. The washup liquid is easier and quicker than the old method.
Have heard that one before,chaslib - I miss my old boiling billy - it had a spout as well - been a lot of miles, now sitting in sons garage gathering dust!!!
No wonder Billeeee head is so shiny!! It's all the washing up detergent.
Gday...
Interesting how we have different ideas, expectations and preferences.
I have always thought that the best reason to keep the billy in its 'blackened' condition (on the outside) was so that it absorbed heat much better - shiny outside 'reflected' heat taking longer to boil. [those with differing proof enter the discussion here
]
I have three 'main' billies -
1. open fire (my favourite) which has its own liddle "sleeping bag" to keep the black off other things - carried in the 4X4. I bought this billy in 1986 in the Alice on my NT trip;
2. for the outside 'camping' gas stove (only gets a bit darker from the gas heat) which also has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - carried in the 4X4. A newer model, bought in 1997 in Brisbane, and;
3. for in the van on the gas stove - it stays much cleaner for some reason but still has its own liddle "sleeping bag" - lives inside the van. This one is the baby of the group - bought in 2003.
I have never in my 50 years of camping seen the need to have a 'shiny' billy. I haven't met many, if any, who clean their billy on the outside.
Cheers - John
Ahhhh, John, guess we must agree to disagree, as you say, we all have different expectations and that is what makes each and everyone unique. Perhaps its something about being a female of the species ..... My kids even tell me that I am anal in how I like things done Lol! Just hate the thought of getting that hideous black stuff over each and every thing it touches ... including me. Good luck with your colourful billy collection, i am sure they have served you well, as mine do me!
cheers
Libby
I agree John,,, our campfire billy is as black as the ace of spades,,, why clean the outside???? Takes away the camping / bush feel I think,, am I being a bit romantic (surely not me,, lol). I has a braided fencing wire handle to replace the crummy one it came with.
Ours goes in its place, no cover, but in its place to avoid blackening everything.
PS The inside is clean,,, apart from years of bore water use and calcium stains.
One 20 + yrs old stainles & black for the fire & looks like it been used. One clean one for the gas stove.
JC.
I've had a billy with a pouring spout and a lid for years..yes black on the outside, and has it's own bag. But I don't often do a campfire these days, so it just sits in the pot drawer. When I bought the caravan, I bought a whistling kettle for inside use, but it's since lost it's whistle.
Very disappointing, but it still makes a bit of noise to let me know it's boiling.
No offence chaslib, but me thinks your kids may be right.

Yep, agree the kids are right, but dont tell them. still stick with my anti black Billy's stand ... When you have Only a couple of good Billy's that are used in and out of the van and also at home ... Black is not an a acceptable colour.
Just finished the washup tonight after fried chicken and baked veggies all cooked on the open fire ..... 3 nice shinny billys all in a row ...
And, no offence taken, everyone has their own opinions.
Cheers
Good for you!
And wouldn't it be a very boring world if we were all the same. 
hmmm