I bought a smart Phone this morning and the smart young thing who served me was quite sure that the phone could use the 3G service even though it had NextG in the info given on the packaging. I still have my doubts, need the Telstra 3G signal when travelling.
Don't you hate it when these smart young things make you feel like a silly old duffer?
Happywanderer said
07:54 PM Jun 8, 2013
Ive just bought a net phone too Getty Mines 4g but at times it reverts to 3g. Just looked at someof the paperwork. It says NextG. HHmmm
Happywanderer said
08:00 PM Jun 8, 2013
Just read some of the paperwork Says the 4g will revert to Nextg When out of the 4g network
bill12 said
08:08 PM Jun 8, 2013
A horse is a horse , of course, of course,But can they tell you the difference between next g and 3g or 4g? I don,t think so. It all seems a bit confusing, but if it WORKS, I don,t really care. Bill
aussietraveller said
09:33 PM Jun 8, 2013
I was told when I questioned this that Next G is a Telstra trade mark name where as all phone service providers except Telstra use 3g and telstra also has the 4g network in capital cities.
Yuglamron said
10:03 PM Jun 8, 2013
What they haven't told people is that some of the digital TV transmission is now on the phone networks so the phones have to be precise in their use of the available bandwidth. The 4G network is limited to major centres and as said previously,reverts back to 3G if no 4G signal.
Pam said
11:36 PM Jun 8, 2013
Why don't you google your question?
Gerty Dancer said
11:41 PM Jun 8, 2013
Thanks Pam, I did that and remain confused. It seems that 3G replaced the old CDMA network (Which was better than anything since), and 4G is faster and mostly only available in cities. Anybody with a 4G service gets 3G when out of town. That's ok, but is NextG the same?
Next question... How much per month do people pay for smart-phone use?
Poppy sore eye said
01:45 AM Jun 9, 2013
Hi all, finally something I know a little about, and can repay some of the info you have all given me.
the "G" in 3G, 4G relates to generation, ie 3rd generation technology. So the higher the number the latest/fastest the technology. "Next G" I believe is a Telstra trade mark, inferring that they can/ or will provide the next generation of technology before others.
4G is currently the latest commercially available system. But is currently mostly restricted to metropolitan areas. if it is not available then your equipment will use the 3G network or in some area,s I notice mine use,s the 2G network.
Gerty, on the question of cost, I have been testing and trialling the Kogan offering, $29 month prepaid and you get all calls all text and 6gig of data. I have been using the phone as a hotspot to provide a data connection for the iPad. so far it's great, they use the Telstra 3G network, coverage so far has been good and i think the speeds are fine.
telstra network for a predictable $29 price I think is great. Would be interested in comments
jimricho said
06:48 AM Jun 9, 2013
Yuglamron wrote:
What they haven't told people is that some of the digital TV transmission is now on the phone networks so the phones have to be precise in their use of the available bandwidth. The 4G network is limited to major centres and as said previously,reverts back to 3G if no 4G signal.
Who's "they"? I've learnt to be very sceptical of anything "they" say.
Spectrum allocation is rigidly controlled and all TV transmissions must be within the channels allocated for TV. Different parts of the spectrum are allocated for mobile phone services.
Can you quote actual instances where an overlap occurs and the frequencies involved or is this just another urban myth. As I retired fifteen years ago from an industry where spectrum management issues were part of the job I'm prepared to stand to be corrected if someone more up to date can give me specific details.
Regardless, phones are required to be stable and precise in their frequencies and use of bandwidth. This applies to any device that transmits a signal.
Getting back on topic: "Poppy" has explained it well.
-- Edited by jimricho on Sunday 9th of June 2013 07:24:09 AM
Yuglamron said
04:49 PM Jun 9, 2013
OK "They"
In this case the Australian Communications Dept made the comment that the "new" Digital TV transmissions are carried over frequencies that were once only used for phone traffic.
Yes the transmissions have to be precise and not spread outside allocated frequencies. Same with the phones.
It means that the devices that use these airwaves (Spectrum) have to be much more accurate.
Very soon many parts of the country will have to retune their TV's when the frequencies(Channels) change. Some areas will remain as now but others will have changes to lots of the TV channels. I am told Brisbane is the 28th,how many channels will change is not on the website and an auto tune from the TV should sort that easily anyway.
Take the radios used by many today on the road to communicate. Used to be 40 channel now 80. The older ones with 40 still work but the newer versions at 80 have to be more precise in their use of the allocated channels.
There are no actual extra channels per se. Just making 80 fit into the old 40 range. Hence everything has to be more precise.
ALL of this is from the Govt Digital website.
I did not say that there is overlap or spread just that the devices have to be more accurate and not spread outside their allocated spectrum.
jimricho said
06:03 PM Jun 9, 2013
Thanks for the update
Jim
EllenajoeL said
10:20 PM Jun 9, 2013
here's some relatively unbiased info to read for further clarity on what the 3G/NextG/4G terms are about (or maybe as a replacement for a sleep pill )
Thanks Pam, I did that and remain confused. It seems that 3G replaced the old CDMA network (Which was better than anything since), and 4G is faster and mostly only available in cities. Anybody with a 4G service gets 3G when out of town. That's ok, but is NextG the same?
Next question... How much per month do people pay for smart-phone use?
we have a $40 prepaid phone with Boost and we get unlimited calls to both landlines and mobiles, free SMS and 3gig of data each month on the Smelstra 3G network we just hot spot our phone and connect our puters to it.
I bought a smart Phone this morning and the smart young thing who served me was quite sure that the phone could use the 3G service even though it had NextG in the info given on the packaging. I still have my doubts, need the Telstra 3G signal when travelling.
Don't you hate it when these smart young things make you feel like a silly old duffer?
What they haven't told people is that some of the digital TV transmission is now on the phone networks so the phones have to be precise in their use of the available bandwidth. The 4G network is limited to major centres and as said previously,reverts back to 3G if no 4G signal.
Next question... How much per month do people pay for smart-phone use?
Hi all, finally something I know a little about, and can repay some of the info you have all given me.
the "G" in 3G, 4G relates to generation, ie 3rd generation technology. So the higher the number the latest/fastest the technology. "Next G" I believe is a Telstra trade mark, inferring that they can/ or will provide the next generation of technology before others.
4G is currently the latest commercially available system. But is currently mostly restricted to metropolitan areas. if it is not available then your equipment will use the 3G network or in some area,s I notice mine use,s the 2G network.
Gerty, on the question of cost, I have been testing and trialling the Kogan offering, $29 month prepaid and you get all calls all text and 6gig of data. I have been using the phone as a hotspot to provide a data connection for the iPad. so far it's great, they use the Telstra 3G network, coverage so far has been good and i think the speeds are fine.
telstra network for a predictable $29 price I think is great. Would be interested in comments
Who's "they"? I've learnt to be very sceptical of anything "they" say.
Spectrum allocation is rigidly controlled and all TV transmissions must be within the channels allocated for TV. Different parts of the spectrum are allocated for mobile phone services.
Can you quote actual instances where an overlap occurs and the frequencies involved or is this just another urban myth. As I retired fifteen years ago from an industry where spectrum management issues were part of the job I'm prepared to stand to be corrected if someone more up to date can give me specific details.
Regardless, phones are required to be stable and precise in their frequencies and use of bandwidth. This applies to any device that transmits a signal.
Getting back on topic: "Poppy" has explained it well.
-- Edited by jimricho on Sunday 9th of June 2013 07:24:09 AM
OK "They"
In this case the Australian Communications Dept made the comment that the "new" Digital TV transmissions are carried over frequencies that were once only used for phone traffic.
Yes the transmissions have to be precise and not spread outside allocated frequencies. Same with the phones.
It means that the devices that use these airwaves (Spectrum) have to be much more accurate.
Very soon many parts of the country will have to retune their TV's when the frequencies(Channels) change. Some areas will remain as now but others will have changes to lots of the TV channels. I am told Brisbane is the 28th,how many channels will change is not on the website and an auto tune from the TV should sort that easily anyway.
Take the radios used by many today on the road to communicate. Used to be 40 channel now 80. The older ones with 40 still work but the newer versions at 80 have to be more precise in their use of the allocated channels.
There are no actual extra channels per se. Just making 80 fit into the old 40 range. Hence everything has to be more precise.
ALL of this is from the Govt Digital website.
I did not say that there is overlap or spread just that the devices have to be more accurate and not spread outside their allocated spectrum.
Jim
here's some relatively unbiased info to read for further clarity on what the 3G/NextG/4G terms are about (or maybe as a replacement for a sleep pill
)
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/mobile_phone_frequencies