Santa wrote:Only picked it up and looked at it Jim, didn't buy.
Good thinking Someone's pulling a fast one there.
Some of the ones I've seen in (I think) Bunnings are actually labelled "caravan cords".
Jim
PS: I also recall that in the case of the ones I saw both the heavy duty 10 amp cords and the 15 amp cords used the same size wire. That shouldn't be a problem provided that they meet the relevant AS/NZ standard and the cord is fully uncoiled when in use.
-- Edited by jimricho on Monday 4th of February 2013 08:37:41 PM
Santa said
08:59 PM Feb 4, 2013
I'm looking to buy a 25m 15A extension lead for the MH, any recommended brand names, suppliers, or pitfalls would be helpful.
Cruising Cruze said
09:32 PM Feb 4, 2013
Just go to SuperCheep or the like
maybe Bunnings
15 amp lead is 15 amp you can't much change on it
Hope this will help you John
Santa said
09:59 PM Feb 4, 2013
First one I picked up at the local h/ware store, marked 15A 25 metre extension lead, then in very small print "10 amp plugs" the plugs were connected so earth pin not visible.
allinone said
10:36 PM Feb 4, 2013
Santa wrote:
I'm looking to buy a 25m 15A extension lead for the MH, any recommended brand names, suppliers, or pfalls would be helpful.
Many sold now have a sheath around the female end, keeps them together when joining an appliance etc but when connecting to the power in connector of the van it does not join properly. So a sharp knife to remove the covering edge may be needed if you have this issue.
-- Edited by allinone on Monday 4th of February 2013 10:37:08 PM
2weis said
12:59 AM Feb 5, 2013
bunnings have many varitities of 15 amp plugs with the heavy earth pin reasonable prices brian
jimricho said
02:37 AM Feb 5, 2013
Santa wrote:
First one I picked up at the local h/ware store, marked 15A 25 metre extension lead, then in very small print "10 amp plugs" the plugs were connected so earth pin not visible.
Take it back and tell them if it doesn't have 15 amp plugs it's not a 15 amp extension cord.
Santa said
02:53 AM Feb 5, 2013
jimricho wrote:
Santa wrote:
First one I picked up at the local h/ware store, marked 15A 25 metre extension lead, then in very small print "10 amp plugs" the plugs were connected so earth pin not visible.
Take it back and tell them if it doesn't have 15 amp plugs it's not a 15 amp extension cord.
Only picked it up and looked at it Jim, didn't buy.
oldtrack123 said
05:55 AM Feb 5, 2013
Cruising Cruze wrote:
Just go to SuperCheep or the like
maybe Bunnings
15 amp lead is 15 amp you can't much change on it
Hope this will help you John
Hi John
Not quite correct
you can get 15A standard duty leads & 15A heavy duty leads
In that length [25M] the standard duty only requires 1.5mm2 conductors
but the heavy duty requires 2.5mm2 conductors
The actual lead length also determines the CABLE conductor size so one may need a cable rated @ a higher current than the actual plug & socket,
One of the reasons extension leads should not be joined, the cable may not be the correct size for the length
Peter
The actual conductor size should be printed or imprinted along the actual cable.
Cruising Cruze said
06:59 AM Feb 5, 2013
Sorry Ralf and other members
I dind't know that ,sorry for my mistake
I tough that when it had the 15 amp plugs on it that is was ok to use for the caravan
will check up on mine what it is ( Bunnings one ) thanks anyway for letting us know ,we never to old to learn
regards John
oldtrack123 said
07:19 AM Feb 5, 2013
Santa wrote:
First one I picked up at the local h/ware store, marked 15A 25 metre extension lead, then in very small print "10 amp plugs" the plugs were connected so earth pin not visible.
Hi
That one probably had 1.5mm2 cable [15A cable] but is a HEAVY DUTY 10A extension lead as determined by the fitted plug & socket
All OK & complies with the requirements of the Standard for extension leads
Would be suitable for equipment which required no more than 10A when running ,but had much higher start up current requirements!!!
Cable current rating is not the defining factor
Length .voltage drop , continious & peak current, determine the size of cable relative to length
Again one of the reasons why extension leads SHOULD not be joined
The combined length could mean the cable is undersized for that COMBINED length.!
Peter
PeterD said
03:03 PM Feb 5, 2013
I'm currently out of touch with prices. However this mob may be OK- Extension Leads Australia - I see they have a 30 m one for $85 (tested & tagged,) I paid nearly $100 years ago for just the cable for my 30 m lead. They also offer an anti pilfering option, you can have your name and phone number printed on the lead every metre for $16.50.
-- Edited by PeterD on Tuesday 5th of February 2013 03:06:12 PM
pricey43 said
01:37 AM Feb 6, 2013
allinone wrote:
Santa wrote:
Many sold now have a sheath around the female end, keeps them together when joining an appliance etc but when connecting to the power in connector of the van it does not join properly. So a sharp knife to remove the covering edge may be needed if you have this issue.
-- Edited by allinone on Monday 4th of February 2013 10:37:08 PM
If you remove this sheath, the lead becomes illegal. Will not pass Test and Tag. Need to have a new inlet on the van to accept the lead with the sheath.
PeterD said
11:21 PM Feb 6, 2013
PeterD wrote:
I'm currently out of touch with prices. However this mob may be OK- Extension Leads Australia - I see they have a 30 m one for $85 (tested & tagged,)
I was in Bunnings to day. They only had one longer 15 A lead in stock, a 20 m job at $36. ELA has a tested and tagged 25 m lead for $49.50.
Santa said
07:45 PM Feb 7, 2013
PeterD wrote:
PeterD wrote:
I'm currently out of touch with prices. However this mob may be OK- Extension Leads Australia - I see they have a 30 m one for $85 (tested & tagged,)
I was in Bunnings to day. They only had one longer 15 A lead in stock, a 20 m job at $36. ELA has a tested and tagged 25 m lead for $49.50.
Went through the ordering process for the 30m lead from ELA Peter, aborted the order when postage charges were well over $30.
Will pick one up on my next trip to Adelaide, pretty sure I will get what I want for less than $120.
KFT said
03:42 AM Feb 8, 2013
if you have a look at "caravan leads" they should have a socket end without the shroud so they can connect to a standard caravan power inlet.
These days all "ordinary" leads have a shroud on the socket end to prevent something metallic from connecting the live pins should connected leads pull apart slightly.
frank
Marken said
08:24 PM Feb 15, 2013
Same thread (wire or lead) but how many people have a 15 amp socket at home for connecting the RV?
I have been told that a lead with a 10 amp plug on one end and a 15 amp socket (for the RV) on the other will not pass a test'n'tag inspection and therefore will be illegal. How do RVers go about the connection at home?
Santa said
08:27 PM Feb 15, 2013
Marken wrote:
Same thread (wire or lead) but how many people have a 15 amp socket at home for connecting the RV? I have been told that a lead with a 10 amp plug on one end and a 15 amp socket (for the RV) on the other will not pass a test'n'tag inspection and therefore will be illegal. How do RVers go about the connection at home?
Installed a 15 amp outlet in our meter box.
oldtrack123 said
07:09 AM Feb 22, 2013
Hi Two options [1]Have a15Amp outlet installed [2] Buy A LEGAL adapter "Ampfibian", then you can use your normal 15A extension lead from ANY 10A outlet
PeterQ
Banglabill said
09:05 PM Apr 14, 2013
My solution to this extension lead problem is go to an electrical wholesaler in any town and ask them for a 15 a heavy duty lead tell them what you want it for and they will have it. that's where I got mine and it does not have any shroud on it, it fits perfectly in my van with out any modifications.
My caravan inlet is a 15A Clipsal inlet socket also available from the same wholesaler
Good thinking
Someone's pulling a fast one there.
Some of the ones I've seen in (I think) Bunnings are actually labelled "caravan cords".
Jim
PS: I also recall that in the case of the ones I saw both the heavy duty 10 amp cords and the 15 amp cords used the same size wire. That shouldn't be a problem provided that they meet the relevant AS/NZ standard and the cord is fully uncoiled when in use.
-- Edited by jimricho on Monday 4th of February 2013 08:37:41 PM
I'm looking to buy a 25m 15A extension lead for the MH, any recommended brand names, suppliers, or pitfalls would be helpful.
maybe Bunnings
15 amp lead is 15 amp you can't much change on it
Hope this will help you
John
First one I picked up at the local h/ware store, marked 15A 25 metre extension lead, then in very small print "10 amp plugs" the plugs were connected so earth pin not visible.
Many sold now have a sheath around the female end, keeps them together when joining an appliance etc but when connecting to the power in connector of the van it does not join properly. So a sharp knife to remove the covering edge may be needed if you have this issue.
-- Edited by allinone on Monday 4th of February 2013 10:37:08 PM
with the heavy earth pin
reasonable prices
brian
Take it back and tell them if it doesn't have 15 amp plugs it's not a 15 amp extension cord.
Only picked it up and looked at it Jim, didn't buy.
Hi John
Not quite correct
you can get 15A standard duty leads & 15A heavy duty leads
In that length [25M] the standard duty only requires 1.5mm2 conductors
but the heavy duty requires 2.5mm2 conductors
The actual lead length also determines the CABLE conductor size so one may need a cable rated @ a higher current than the actual plug & socket,
One of the reasons extension leads should not be joined, the cable may not be the correct size for the length
Peter
The actual conductor size should be printed or imprinted along the actual cable.
I dind't know that ,sorry for my mistake
I tough that when it had the 15 amp plugs on it that is was ok to use for the caravan
will check up on mine what it is ( Bunnings one )
thanks anyway for letting us know ,we never to old to learn
regards John
Hi
That one probably had 1.5mm2 cable [15A cable] but is a HEAVY DUTY 10A extension lead as determined by the fitted plug & socket
All OK & complies with the requirements of the Standard for extension leads
Would be suitable for equipment which required no more than 10A when running ,but had much higher start up current requirements!!!
Cable current rating is not the defining factor
Length .voltage drop , continious & peak current, determine the size of cable relative to length
Again one of the reasons why extension leads SHOULD not be joined
The combined length could mean the cable is undersized for that COMBINED length.!
Peter
I'm currently out of touch with prices. However this mob may be OK- Extension Leads Australia - I see they have a 30 m one for $85 (tested & tagged,) I paid nearly $100 years ago for just the cable for my 30 m lead. They also offer an anti pilfering option, you can have your name and phone number printed on the lead every metre for $16.50.
-- Edited by PeterD on Tuesday 5th of February 2013 03:06:12 PM
If you remove this sheath, the lead becomes illegal. Will not pass Test and Tag. Need to have a new inlet on the van to accept the lead with the sheath.
I was in Bunnings to day. They only had one longer 15 A lead in stock, a 20 m job at $36. ELA has a tested and tagged 25 m lead for $49.50.
Went through the ordering process for the 30m lead from ELA Peter, aborted the order when postage charges were well over $30.
Will pick one up on my next trip to Adelaide, pretty sure I will get what I want for less than $120.
These days all "ordinary" leads have a shroud on the socket end to prevent something metallic from connecting the live pins should connected leads pull apart slightly.
frank
Installed a 15 amp outlet in our meter box.
Hi
Two options
[1]Have a15Amp outlet installed
[2] Buy A LEGAL adapter "Ampfibian", then you can use your normal 15A extension lead from ANY 10A outlet
PeterQ
My solution to this extension lead problem is go to an electrical wholesaler in any town and ask them for a 15 a heavy duty lead tell them what you want it for and they will have it. that's where I got mine and it does not have any shroud on it, it fits perfectly in my van with out any modifications.
My caravan inlet is a 15A Clipsal inlet socket also available from the same wholesaler
Regards Banglabill (retired electrician)