My B F Goodrich All Terrains were looking a little bit worse for wear in spite of being on the road for only 12 months. I was blaming the quality of the rubber, or latex, for the short life of my tyres. Last year they cost me $300 each.
A friend thought I was being unreasonable, and recommended I check my mileage (or "kilometerage") for the term of the tyres.
It worked out to about 84,500 kms for the year. That included two return runs up the Strezleki Track, the Marble Bar Road, the roads to Brockman 2 Mine and the Solomon Mine in the Pilbara. Those roads are so unkind to tyres.
So I reviewed my opinion and concerns about the wear and tear of my BFG's. After all is said and one, I reckon I had a good run, and that's not a bad year's work.
Of those kms, 15% is private use. All the rest is working to and from destinations in far flung places. The inflation rate was $325 each this year at Tyrepower, Parafield. (Adelaide)
Does anyone have any numbers matching or beating this?
Smokeydk said
03:23 AM Jan 29, 2013
Hi CG......I think you did very well......if I can get that out of my Coopers I'll be very pleased
Cruising Granny said
04:09 AM Jan 29, 2013
Hate to break it to you Smokey, not a snowball's hope in hell. They'll throw the tread before it gets worn, but good luck with them. They don't have a good rep for all surfaces. Are you home or on the wallaby?
rockylizard said
04:21 AM Jan 29, 2013
Gday...
Interesting comment - obviously based on 'experience' - of self or others.
I have had two sets of Cooper Discoverer H/T Plus on my Disco 3 - first set did 68,000km and the second set has done 56,000km and I will now be replacing the 2nd set with Cooper Discoverer AT3 tyres next Monday.
I have found them a very good tyre - not a single puncture in any of those two sets - and they have worn evenly and given great grip on highway, gravel, hard dirt and climbing in low range over rocks and out of creek crossings. They have surprised me for a "road pattern" tyre with only 2ply walls.
I certainly hope the AT3s will be as good as the H/T have been.
Cheers - John
gordon_adl said
04:23 AM Jan 29, 2013
Just curious, is the cost of replacing tyres partically tax deductable since you drive for a living?
Cruising Granny wrote:
My B F Goodrich All Terrains were looking a little bit worse for wear in spite of being on the road for only 12 months. I was blaming the quality of the rubber, or latex, for the short life of my tyres. Last year they cost me $300 each.
A friend thought I was being unreasonable, and recommended I check my mileage (or "kilometerage") for the term of the tyres.
It worked out to about 84,500 kms for the year. That included two return runs up the Strezleki Track, the Marble Bar Road, the roads to Brockman 2 Mine and the Solomon Mine in the Pilbara. Those roads are so unkind to tyres.
So I reviewed my opinion and concerns about the wear and tear of my BFG's. After all is said and one, I reckon I had a good run, and that's not a bad year's work.
Of those kms, 15% is private use. All the rest is working to and from destinations in far flung places. The inflation rate was $325 each this year at Tyrepower, Parafield. (Adelaide)
Does anyone have any numbers matching or beating this?
Gerty Dancer said
06:10 AM Jan 29, 2013
Wow! Goodonya Chris!
Cruising Granny said
06:37 AM Jan 29, 2013
Yes Gordon, it most certainly is. I calculated about 85% work use and the balance is private use, and that's how I calculate everything. I don't need a purpose-vehicle for the job and a tug. There's only one of me. I calculate the same rate for phone, rent, internet etc. It's only 100% fuel while I'm on the job and heading home, if I'm dead running without a return job. It's a quick way to run up the kms on a vehicle, and I have the stone chips to prove it. I've changed the windscreen once, and I've had to replace 2 driving light lenses and reflectors. Narva have those kits. They're not really driving lights anymore. They've been reduced from 100W to 55W for "wig wagging" - alternate flashing while on duty escorting anything over 4.5 metres in Qld and WA.
Smokeydk said
09:40 AM Jan 29, 2013
Hi Chris.....we running Coopers ATR.......we still just going away weekends.....but come next July that will change..first trip will be Flinders Rangers
-- Edited by Smokeydk on Tuesday 29th of January 2013 09:41:34 AM
billeeeeeee said
11:26 AM Jan 29, 2013
Howdyeee Chris, i got 53000klm out of my Continentals ,front wheel drive , think thats not tooooo bad , have done 1500klm on my new tyers, looking good!!!!! take care Chris,,,,stay excited,,,,,,,,,,,,Billeeeee
-- Edited by billeeeeeee on Tuesday 29th of January 2013 11:26:31 AM
My B F Goodrich All Terrains were looking a little bit worse for wear in spite of being on the road for only 12 months. I was blaming the quality of the rubber, or latex, for the short life of my tyres. Last year they cost me $300 each.
A friend thought I was being unreasonable, and recommended I check my mileage (or "kilometerage") for the term of the tyres.
It worked out to about 84,500 kms for the year. That included two return runs up the Strezleki Track, the Marble Bar Road, the roads to Brockman 2 Mine and the Solomon Mine in the Pilbara. Those roads are so unkind to tyres.
So I reviewed my opinion and concerns about the wear and tear of my BFG's. After all is said and one, I reckon I had a good run, and that's not a bad year's work.
Of those kms, 15% is private use. All the rest is working to and from destinations in far flung places. The inflation rate was $325 each this year at Tyrepower, Parafield. (Adelaide)
Does anyone have any numbers matching or beating this?
Beating what? Kms travelled for work? Kms done on BFG's?
When I worked out of Perth I was doing 900 odd km EVERY night 5 nights (sole driver) a week totalling 225,000+km per year in an 8 tonne truck.
It was an overnight express run with up to 30 drop-off points a night.
Steer tyres were good for 120,000km when they were Capped to go on the drive axle where the casings would do 2 lots of 180,000km before being scrapped.
Cheers Neil
-- Edited by Delta18 on Tuesday 29th of January 2013 08:41:45 PM
villatranquilla said
10:43 PM Jan 29, 2013
30,000 out of Kumo's on the Navara - not happy Jan
justcruisin01 said
03:34 AM Jan 30, 2013
Cruising Granny wrote:
Hate to break it to you Smokey, not a snowball's hope in hell. They'll throw the tread before it gets worn, but good luck with them. They don't have a good rep for all surfaces. Are you home or on the wallaby?
I was advised of this problem a couple of years back by a tyre dealer in Katherine NT, more prone to happen in the hot climate & higher road speed limits was his experience.
JC.
Smokeydk said
02:13 AM Feb 1, 2013
Just checked my tyres.the Coopers have done 46,000klm and still got those rubber whiskers .....I am hoping I could double it....over $330 a tyre they better
Cruising Granny said
05:31 AM Feb 2, 2013
Well Neil, I was really talking about car or 4x4 tyres, but I'd say you must have been working your butt off and go good mileage out of those hard-working tyres. Some of the trucks and the platforms and floats do a lot of tyres on the trips. Hot roads, very heavy loads and stretching the tyre life out to the max. And it's always the inside tyre. Did you notice that? Bugga! Kumo tyres aren't know for their long life. They put them on some of the trucks, but they're not popular with the truck drivers who have to change them. They're cheap but not know for longevity. I did have a puncture in the tread of one of the rear tyres - a nail. $35 to fix it at Blackwater Tyre Service. If you're going out to the real bush, along tracks which just get graded over to reduce the corrugations where the tree roots protrude from the grader banks, you need better than 2 ply walls. Thicker is better out there. Even some of the stony bush tracks like the Strez or the Wittenoom road to Solomon Mine have sharp stones with ambitions of cutting the tyres to shreds. Stay safe and upright.
Santa said
10:30 PM Feb 2, 2013
FWIW I'm running 16 inch Toyo HO8's on the Kea, cant quote milages however they do seem to be a durable hard wearing tyre.
Smokeydk said
08:05 PM Dec 6, 2013
My Coopers died 2 months back...centers wore out....I got 41,000 klm ....I'm now running Bridgestone 697 Duelers ........see how they go
johnq said
08:58 PM Dec 6, 2013
The main problem I have encountered over years is poor wheel alignments from tyre dealers who don't train their staff and don't calibrate their equipment.
While on the subject of tyres, I often wonder how many people have died or have had expensive mechanical failures because fuel companies pulled out of driveway service, promising a 1c 'reduction' in the price of fuel which was never delivered anyhow. They would have known at the time, as would the road safety mob, that many people forget to check tyres, water and lubricants.
Hey Coles and W'worths, what about a zero discount on fuel and instead pay some cheap young or old driveway attendants to do what they used to do?
Baz421 said
09:21 PM Dec 6, 2013
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
Interesting comment - obviously based on 'experience' - of self or others.
I have had two sets of Cooper Discoverer H/T Plus on my Disco 3 - first set did 68,000km and the second set has done 56,000km and I will now be replacing the 2nd set with Cooper Discoverer AT3 tyres next Monday.
I have found them a very good tyre - not a single puncture in any of those two sets - and they have worn evenly and given great grip on highway, gravel, hard dirt and climbing in low range over rocks and out of creek crossings. They have surprised me for a "road pattern" tyre with only 2ply walls.
I certainly hope the AT3s will be as good as the H/T have been.
Cheers - John
Same here John,,, good run from 6 Coopers STC's about 64,000- 70,000,,, had bit of problem when we stayed in Adelaide Hills area in 2008 in that the 2 front ones wore uneven, ie one "chunk" of tread wore one way and the next "chunk" the opposite. The Coopers guy just laughed when I showed him,, so what, he said. With 2.4 tonnes on rear axle this milage is good IMHO.
Anyway, Km is good but changed to Bridgestones now to get more Km from them based on friends experiences plus work in the NT around Katherine where they are very popular and robust.
Previously had a Paj for 11 years and ran Yokohama Super Diggers - excellent handling etc except they regularly went out of round when 2/3 worn,,,,, when they ceased Super Digger production I went to Geolandar,, a bit noisy and not as positive in hard cornering,,, then sold the Paj for LC79 cruiser ute.
rockylizard said
09:27 PM Dec 6, 2013
Gday...
The Cooper AT3's have now covered 24,000km and still look like new ... looks like they will last better than the previous Cooper H/Ts. And excellent on the road and on dirt roads and the 4X4 driving I have done.
Cheers - John
Baz421 said
09:36 PM Dec 6, 2013
Smokeydk wrote:
My Coopers died 2 months back...centers wore out....I got 41,000 klm ....I'm now running Bridgestone 697 Duelers ........see how they go
What vehicle are they on and what pressures do you run?????
rockylizard said
09:44 PM Dec 6, 2013
Smokeydk wrote:
My Coopers died 2 months back...centers wore out....I got 41,000 klm ....I'm now running Bridgestone 697 Duelers ........see how they go
Gday...
Irrespective of make of tyre, wearing the centres out is usually a sign of over-inflation .
If that was so, probably not the fault of the tyre perhaps.
Cheers - John
Baz421 said
09:46 PM Dec 6, 2013
rockylizard wrote:
Smokeydk wrote:
My Coopers died 2 months back...centers wore out....I got 41,000 klm ....I'm now running Bridgestone 697 Duelers ........see how they go
Gday...
Irrespective of make of tyre, wearing the centres out is usually a sign of over-inflation .
If that was so, probably not the fault of the tyre perhaps.
Cheers - John
My thoughts exactly,, but I thought I'd ask out of curiosity!!!!!
Smokeydk said
09:25 PM Mar 21, 2014
I thought they were over inflated at 38psi.....thats what I was told to run in them by the tyre ppl.......but Coopers said they been tested and were under inflated......that doesnt make sense......as the centers were worn out
rockylizard said
09:34 PM Mar 21, 2014
Smokeydk wrote:
I thought they were over inflated at 38psi.....thats what I was told to run in them by the tyre ppl.......but Coopers said they been tested and were under inflated......that doesnt make sense......as the centers were worn out
Gday...
Bit late now given you have turfed them and now have Bridgestone 697s .... but on what vehicle were the Coopers?
When not towing I run 34PSI all round but when towing I up that to 36PSI front and 44PSI rear. I rotate them every 6,000km when engine oil and engine oil filter are changed.
I now have AT3s and they have about 36,000km, are wearing extremely evenly and are not even half worn. Much better than the H/T Plus.
cheers - John
Smokeydk said
10:27 PM Mar 21, 2014
Hi John.....I have an NP Pajero..... I did 41,000 on the ATRs ..... the BS 697s I'm running 42 front & rear while towing...they are not noisy on the black stuff........and dont aqua-plane in the wet like the Coopers did
The Coopers were rotated every 10,000klm .....only done 2,000klm on the BS so far
My B F Goodrich All Terrains were looking a little bit worse for wear in spite of being on the road for only 12 months. I was blaming the quality of the rubber, or latex, for the short life of my tyres. Last year they cost me $300 each.
A friend thought I was being unreasonable, and recommended I check my mileage (or "kilometerage") for the term of the tyres.
It worked out to about 84,500 kms for the year. That included two return runs up the Strezleki Track, the Marble Bar Road, the roads to Brockman 2 Mine and the Solomon Mine in the Pilbara. Those roads are so unkind to tyres.
So I reviewed my opinion and concerns about the wear and tear of my BFG's. After all is said and one, I reckon I had a good run, and that's not a bad year's work.
Of those kms, 15% is private use. All the rest is working to and from destinations in far flung places. The inflation rate was $325 each this year at Tyrepower, Parafield. (Adelaide)
Does anyone have any numbers matching or beating this?
They don't have a good rep for all surfaces.
Are you home or on the wallaby?
Gday...
Interesting comment - obviously based on 'experience' - of self or others.
I have had two sets of Cooper Discoverer H/T Plus on my Disco 3 - first set did 68,000km and the second set has done 56,000km and I will now be replacing the 2nd set with Cooper Discoverer AT3 tyres next Monday.
I have found them a very good tyre - not a single puncture in any of those two sets - and they have worn evenly and given great grip on highway, gravel, hard dirt and climbing in low range over rocks and out of creek crossings. They have surprised me for a "road pattern" tyre with only 2ply walls.
I certainly hope the AT3s will be as good as the H/T have been.
Cheers - John
It's only 100% fuel while I'm on the job and heading home, if I'm dead running without a return job.
It's a quick way to run up the kms on a vehicle, and I have the stone chips to prove it. I've changed the windscreen once, and I've had to replace 2 driving light lenses and reflectors. Narva have those kits. They're not really driving lights anymore. They've been reduced from 100W to 55W for "wig wagging" - alternate flashing while on duty escorting anything over 4.5 metres in Qld and WA.
Hi Chris.....we running Coopers ATR.......we still just going away weekends.....but come next July that will change..first trip will be Flinders Rangers
-- Edited by Smokeydk on Tuesday 29th of January 2013 09:41:34 AM
-- Edited by billeeeeeee on Tuesday 29th of January 2013 11:26:31 AM
Beating what? Kms travelled for work? Kms done on BFG's?
When I worked out of Perth I was doing 900 odd km EVERY night 5 nights (sole driver) a week totalling 225,000+km per year in an 8 tonne truck.
It was an overnight express run with up to 30 drop-off points a night.
Steer tyres were good for 120,000km when they were Capped to go on the drive axle where the casings would do 2 lots of 180,000km before being scrapped.
Cheers Neil
-- Edited by Delta18 on Tuesday 29th of January 2013 08:41:45 PM
30,000 out of Kumo's on the Navara - not happy Jan
I was advised of this problem a couple of years back by a tyre dealer in Katherine NT, more prone to happen in the hot climate & higher road speed limits was his experience.
JC.
Some of the trucks and the platforms and floats do a lot of tyres on the trips. Hot roads, very heavy loads and stretching the tyre life out to the max. And it's always the inside tyre. Did you notice that? Bugga!
Kumo tyres aren't know for their long life. They put them on some of the trucks, but they're not popular with the truck drivers who have to change them. They're cheap but not know for longevity.
I did have a puncture in the tread of one of the rear tyres - a nail. $35 to fix it at Blackwater Tyre Service.
If you're going out to the real bush, along tracks which just get graded over to reduce the corrugations where the tree roots protrude from the grader banks, you need better than 2 ply walls. Thicker is better out there. Even some of the stony bush tracks like the Strez or the Wittenoom road to Solomon Mine have sharp stones with ambitions of cutting the tyres to shreds.
Stay safe and upright.
FWIW I'm running 16 inch Toyo HO8's on the Kea, cant quote milages however they do seem to be a durable hard wearing tyre.
The main problem I have encountered over years is poor wheel alignments from tyre dealers who don't train their staff and don't calibrate their equipment.
driveway attendants to do what they used to do?
While on the subject of tyres, I often wonder how many people have died or have had expensive mechanical failures because fuel companies pulled out of driveway service, promising a 1c 'reduction' in the price of fuel which was never delivered anyhow. They would have known at the time, as would the road safety mob, that many people forget to check tyres, water and lubricants.
Hey Coles and W'worths, what about a zero discount on fuel and instead pay some cheap young or old
Same here John,,, good run from 6 Coopers STC's about 64,000- 70,000,,, had bit of problem when we stayed in Adelaide Hills area in 2008 in that the 2 front ones wore uneven, ie one "chunk" of tread wore one way and the next "chunk" the opposite. The Coopers guy just laughed when I showed him,, so what, he said. With 2.4 tonnes on rear axle this milage is good IMHO.
Anyway, Km is good but changed to Bridgestones now to get more Km from them based on friends experiences plus work in the NT around Katherine where they are very popular and robust.
Previously had a Paj for 11 years and ran Yokohama Super Diggers - excellent handling etc except they regularly went out of round when 2/3 worn,,,,, when they ceased Super Digger production I went to Geolandar,, a bit noisy and not as positive in hard cornering,,, then sold the Paj for LC79 cruiser ute.
Gday...
The Cooper AT3's have now covered 24,000km and still look like new ... looks like they will last better than the previous Cooper H/Ts. And excellent on the road and on dirt roads and the 4X4 driving I have done.
Cheers - John
What vehicle are they on and what pressures do you run?????
Gday...
Irrespective of make of tyre, wearing the centres out is usually a sign of over-inflation
.
If that was so, probably not the fault of the tyre perhaps.
Cheers - John
My thoughts exactly,, but I thought I'd ask out of curiosity!!!!!
Gday...
Bit late now given you have turfed them and now have Bridgestone 697s .... but on what vehicle were the Coopers?
When not towing I run 34PSI all round but when towing I up that to 36PSI front and 44PSI rear. I rotate them every 6,000km when engine oil and engine oil filter are changed.
I now have AT3s and they have about 36,000km, are wearing extremely evenly and are not even half worn. Much better than the H/T Plus.
cheers - John
The Coopers were rotated every 10,000klm .....only done 2,000klm on the BS so far