Mind you might need a day or so to read the thread (2000+ posts).
-- Edited by Ron and Shirley on Thursday 30th of August 2012 10:16:56 AM
chaslib said
11:39 AM Aug 30, 2012
thanks for that - the towing capacity is fine for our needs which are a coromal family camper (this is first van and thought we would start small - may need to upgrade down the track if we upgrade to a full size van). The actual Jeep is the Cherokee Limited - not the Grand Cherokee which is a bit outside of our budget at the moment.
I will check out the website that has been recommended and get a cuppa to see me through it all. I did post a while back regarding the Great Wall diesel SUV, but as you can see, we have greatly changed direction since that time!
Libby
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-- Edited by chaslib on Thursday 30th of August 2012 11:42:01 AM
chaslib said
04:01 PM Aug 30, 2012
Hope this is right place to post this query - 2nd only time for me. Finally decided would like to purchase Jeep Cherokee - 2012 Limited Jeep Cherokee - diesel. Anyone had any experience with this make/model. Would appreciate others ideas, thoughts and experiences. now down to 8 weeks to retirement, so time running out. Other vehicle interested in is the Santa Fe
thanks
billy the kid said
06:17 PM Aug 30, 2012
G'day chaslib, i have a 2006 2.8 diesel cherokee and am very happy with it But they are very expensive to service and for spare parts. EG; 100,000k service requires you to replace timing belt and ancilliary bits and pieces $1675. Also are you aware that the tow rating is only 2250kg.
signwilson said
09:31 PM Aug 30, 2012
what ever you do do not buy a jeep we owned one as was said servicing costs are very high. They do not have a chassis they are monocoque construction body work wil crack out on it. my mistake of owning one cost me $30,000 I now have a Landcruiser 100 series 4.2 diesel much better vehicle can get servicing everywhere.
neilnruth said
09:35 PM Aug 30, 2012
Welcome chaslib. Enjoy the forum. I can't help you on your choice of car but I'm intrigued as to your comment ' now down to 8 weeks to retirement, so time running out'. Why the rush if you are retiring? Life will go on - you will be retired for the rest of your life - and I'd think you should take it carefully as to which car you choose. I know you are probably keen to get on the road but please don't make a mistake in choosing your car because 'time is running out'.
brickies said
09:53 PM Aug 30, 2012
Chaslib I think you need to identify how much money you can afford to spend on a tug and what towing capacity you may require down the track if you change up to a full caravan, Are you going off road or staying on the black tar , If the Jeep has a towing capacity of 2250 KG well a ford falcon has a towing capacity of 2300 KG , Don't buy a Jeep because it look like a 4 wheel drive when a Holden or Falcon could do has good a job with less hassle , Has the ad on TV say YOU BROUGHT A JEEP
chaslib said
10:07 PM Aug 30, 2012
Thanks for your input And all taken on board - unfortunately time for us is running out after having a company car for all our working life, it will disappear as retirement appears. So, the car is a big consideration and one that has been under consideration for some time. Comments re cost for maintenance have been an ongoing concern and we are also considering the Santa Fee (4x4 auto diesel) they have a new release in the next month or so which may suggest a let's wait and see plan of attack. Our other car is not suitable being a nifty little Hyundai I.30 which does on average 30klm per day times 5 days a week!!
So any thoughts about the Santa Fe? We have discounted Tiguan, X-trail, Sorento. Need towing ability 2000 braked - looking up to $50k approx, auto (for Lib) and TD.
Charlie & Libbt
deb-gary said
11:17 PM Aug 30, 2012
my advice is to buy a vehicle that will tow a caravan down the track. i am a licenced motor dealer and the change over will be considerable in say 3 or 4 years.buy something now that will do to tow something bigger will save a lot of hassles in a few years.good luck
chaslib said
11:21 PM Aug 30, 2012
thanks everyone - a bit of food for thought ....... will let you know when the next chapter is written! Cheers
Libby & Charlie
Grahame Readwin said
12:54 AM Aug 31, 2012
I don't know if it's any help, but I had a Santa fe diesel before my current Pathfinder. The only reason I changed was the towing capacity. The fe is limited to 2 ton - I needed 2.5 ton.
I can honestly say the Santa Fe was the best car I've owned. I towed a Goldstream camper at 1800kg and barely noticed it. Fuel consumption was incredible and it was a dream off road.
Jeep have always had problems with reliability, but the new models are impressive and maybe the reliability has been sorted.
chaslib said
02:03 AM Aug 31, 2012
Thanks Graham, we are planning on test driving the Santa Fa, we have been very happy with the little i30 and the service from the dealer. The run off vehicle is very impressive and they are offering very attractive deals, so will be interested also to see the new model which is due in September or October. Towing weight is within our scope, so looking good. Cheers Libby and Charlie.
billy the kid said
03:16 AM Aug 31, 2012
My jeep is very reliable . It has never broken down. Its just the regular maintenance costs that are high. It also has a full ladder chassis and low ratio gearbox. I think it maybe the Patriot that now has a monocoque chassis. Or the compass.
signwilson said
03:27 AM Aug 31, 2012
jeep grand cheerokees are rubbish
rockylizard said
05:05 AM Aug 31, 2012
signwilson wrote:
jeep grand cheerokees are rubbish
Gday...
Gee - don't hold back ..... share your opinion
cheers - John
billy the kid said
09:44 PM Aug 31, 2012
Sign Wilson, have you got any evidence to back up that very ignorant remark?
signwilson said
11:05 PM Aug 31, 2012
I sure do photo's and everything and the quote to repair the dam heap of rubbish $10,000
brickies said
11:20 PM Aug 31, 2012
Now thats experience , And maybe evidence that hurts
signwilson said
11:50 PM Aug 31, 2012
sure did the whole experience ended up costing me $30,000 not something I would want anyone else to have to go through as you get no help from jeep the warranty is a joke it took 2 months to get some of the parts and they came from Japan hows that for a good american product
billy the kid said
05:28 AM Sep 1, 2012
Ok, fair enough. You copped a lemon,but there are lemons in every make of car.
signwilson said
09:42 PM Sep 1, 2012
I know of at least 10 others that have the same problem as my son is a automotive painter and friends with most of the panel beaters between here and Moree it is a common problem
rockylizard said
10:29 PM Sep 1, 2012
Gday...
Don't keep us in suspense .... in a nutshell, what was this 'common problem'.
cheers - John
signwilson said
11:45 PM Sep 1, 2012
the towbar is fitted to sheet metal using rivet nuts which breakaway and rip out the rear subframe and the box channel on both sides of the body has to be replaced. The parts have to come from overseas
chaslib said
01:52 AM Sep 2, 2012
OK guys - I have sat on the side during your interesting literary ping pong and thought it time to inject a couple of queries seeing my innocent post started this!.
Many of the posts on this and - by the way, - I have sought opinions from several other forums and industry groups which have resulted in responses reflecting models anything from 5 to 10 years old - abolutly nothing quoted as based on 2011/2012 models. Don't get me wrong, I am very appreciative of your comments which appear to be propelled by personal experiences and these, it do respect and understand. After all, who would not be majorly ticked off if they had a $10-$30K repair bill for a vehicle that they believed would fulfill their expectations and the dealers promises!
BUT.... what I would like to do now is to separate and to isolate the target models you have in your "sights" and ask "are we posting about the current models, ie. 2012? if not, can you comment on any improvements since then and now?" I do like lively debate, but nobody so far has indicated what year model they have problems with! As for our decision on a vehicle ......... THE JURY IS STILL OUT, SO BRING IT ON!
By the way, I have today reviewed the specs for the 2013 Santa Fe and am wondering now if we should be looking at the tried and true tradies dual cabs and give the SUV's the flickas we will rarely have more than us in the vehicle!!!!???? The issues re the maintenance/parts/service costs for the Jeep are well known and concerning.
I am inclined not only to keep an open mind, but also remember "bad news sells papers!"
We am so looking forward to meeting you all over over a campfire on the road in the months to come!
cheers Libby and Charlie
chaslib said
04:17 PM Jan 25, 2013
Well - back again with details regarding the final choice and purchase of our new tow vehicle. 2012 Ford Territory Titanium AWD Diesel - also have purchased a 2006 Coromal Silhouette to go with it. We have the car now kitted out with extras for travelling as we are sure after a couple of years in the camper, we may just want to upgrade to full size van for that extra comfort and convenience (we are both mid-60's). But for the moment, we are now looking forward to starting our adventures in the next couple of months with a couple of short shake down trips around the FNC of NSW. Thanks for all your input last year -
hitchngo said
09:23 PM Aug 3, 2015
only as you cant afford one and havent much know on latest diesel tech
You may find some useful information in this thread on another forum http://tinyurl.com/9bgwe52.
Mind you might need a day or so to read the thread (2000+ posts)
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-- Edited by Ron and Shirley on Thursday 30th of August 2012 10:16:56 AM
thanks for that - the towing capacity is fine for our needs which are a coromal family camper (this is first van and thought we would start small - may need to upgrade down the track if we upgrade to a full size van). The actual Jeep is the Cherokee Limited - not the Grand Cherokee which is a bit outside of our budget at the moment.
I will check out the website that has been recommended and get a cuppa to see me through it all. I did post a while back regarding the Great Wall diesel SUV, but as you can see, we have greatly changed direction since that time!
Libby
-- Edited by chaslib on Thursday 30th of August 2012 11:39:52 AM
-- Edited by chaslib on Thursday 30th of August 2012 11:42:01 AM
Hope this is right place to post this query - 2nd only time for me. Finally decided would like to purchase Jeep Cherokee - 2012 Limited Jeep Cherokee - diesel. Anyone had any experience with this make/model. Would appreciate others ideas, thoughts and experiences. now down to 8 weeks to retirement, so time running out. Other vehicle interested in is the Santa Fe
thanks
Why the rush if you are retiring? Life will go on - you will be retired for the rest of your life - and I'd think you should take it carefully as to which car you choose. I know you are probably keen to get on the road but please don't make a mistake in choosing your car because 'time is running out'.
Cheers
Libby & Charlie
I don't know if it's any help, but I had a Santa fe diesel before my current Pathfinder. The only reason I changed was the towing capacity. The fe is limited to 2 ton - I needed 2.5 ton.
I can honestly say the Santa Fe was the best car I've owned. I towed a Goldstream camper at 1800kg and barely noticed it. Fuel consumption was incredible and it was a dream off road.
Jeep have always had problems with reliability, but the new models are impressive and maybe the reliability has been sorted.
Cheers
Libby and Charlie.
Gday...
Gee - don't hold back ..... share your opinion
cheers - John
Gday...
Don't keep us in suspense .... in a nutshell, what was this 'common problem'.
cheers - John
Many of the posts on this and - by the way, - I have sought opinions from several other forums and industry groups which have resulted in responses reflecting models anything from 5 to 10 years old - abolutly nothing quoted as based on 2011/2012 models. Don't get me wrong, I am very appreciative of your comments which appear to be propelled by personal experiences and these, it do respect and understand. After all, who would not be majorly ticked off if they had a $10-$30K repair bill for a vehicle that they believed would fulfill their expectations and the dealers promises!
BUT.... what I would like to do now is to separate and to isolate the target models you have in your "sights" and ask "are we posting about the current models, ie. 2012? if not, can you comment on any improvements since then and now?" I do like lively debate, but nobody so far has indicated what year model they have problems with! As for our decision on a vehicle ......... THE JURY IS STILL OUT, SO BRING IT ON!
By the way, I have today reviewed the specs for the 2013 Santa Fe and am wondering now if we should be looking at the tried and true tradies dual cabs and give the SUV's the flickas we will rarely have more than us in the vehicle!!!!???? The issues re the maintenance/parts/service costs for the Jeep are well known and concerning.
I am inclined not only to keep an open mind, but also remember "bad news sells papers!"
We am so looking forward to meeting you all over over a campfire on the road in the months to come!
cheers
Libby and Charlie
Well - back again with details regarding the final choice and purchase of our new tow vehicle. 2012 Ford Territory Titanium AWD Diesel - also have purchased a 2006 Coromal Silhouette to go with it. We have the car now kitted out with extras for travelling as we are sure after a couple of years in the camper, we may just want to upgrade to full size van for that extra comfort and convenience (we are both mid-60's). But for the moment, we are now looking forward to starting our adventures in the next couple of months with a couple of short shake down trips around the FNC of NSW. Thanks for all your input last year -
only as you cant afford one and havent much know on latest diesel tech