We seem to have a lot of problems with sullage hoses splitting. We started with the common ridged ones (25 mm), then replaced them with some dearer ones with smooth inner surface. The latter seem to be even more prone to splitting.
Any suggestions?
Andrea & John
neilnruth said
11:26 PM Jun 16, 2012
Are you trying to roll them up too tight? We haven't had any problems with our ridged ones. How old are they?
Andrea said
12:10 AM Jun 17, 2012
They're not very old; we've only been on the road for 3 1/2 years - a lot less than you two!
Could be that we're storing them too tightly rolled - I guess we need to look at installing a couple of tubes under the van. They just don't seem to flex much without splitting.
Thanks, Neil 'n' Ruth -
Andrea & John
jimricho said
01:08 AM Jun 17, 2012
Don't ever be conned into buying one of those "Flat Out" roll up sullage hoses. I bought one a few years back that was flat when rolled up on the spool but allegedly expands when unwound from the reel. It didn't!
I ended up throwing the hose away and reusing the reel to store my power cord.
I now use an el-cheapo washing machine diverter hose available at Bunnings etc.
Andrea said
02:05 AM Jun 17, 2012
jimricho wrote:
Don't ever be conned into buying one of those "Flat Out" roll up sullage hoses. I bought one a few years back that was flat when rolled up on the spool but allegedly expands when unwound from the reel. It didn't!
I ended up throwing the hose away and reusing the reel to store my power cord.
I now use an el-cheapo washing machine diverter hose available at Bunnings etc.
That resonates, Jim - we bought one a couple of years ago which was soon discarded, after much cursing and swearing from John!!
PeterD said
04:22 AM Jun 17, 2012
After many years of cutting back the ends of sullage hoses to rid them of the damage from barbed connectors I installed screw connectors on the ends. I have 1" BSP directors with barbs like this on one end and a matching nut and tail on the other. These fittings cost a bit more than the simple barbed fittings but they are much easier to use and you are not flexing the ends of the hose when coupling and uncoupling.
I had some difficulty sourcing the fittings. Jayco agents keep the nut and tail but nt the directors. Bummings are the opposite.
gold dandelion said
05:01 AM Jun 17, 2012
we had a flat hose on a roll used it for 3 years, found it really good, used to put it back on the tap and wash it out before we rolled it up, wouldnt go any other way, uses no room as well.
Andrea said
02:24 AM Jun 18, 2012
Thanks for that info, Peter; we'll look into that alternative. Funny how you just can't get all the relevant bits at one place. We have had trouble in the past getting joiners for the hoses, too.
And you must have found the knack of using those flat hoses, Gold Dandelion - glad it works for you!
Andrea
Cupie said
11:04 PM Jun 18, 2012
I have the same soft, smooth inside & outside sullage hoses that I got 13yrs ago.
They are stored in pipes under the van or spare rarely used lengths inside the open chassis rails. Consequently they are never coiled.
Joiners are pieces of conduit that fits firmly inside the pipes.
When at home I use them to distribute washing machine water, so they are mostly out in the sun.
neilnruth said
12:22 AM Jun 20, 2012
Andrea I've been thinking about your problem and realised maybe what we do is helpful. Before my husband takes the hose off, I let the warm sudsy water go down it. Then he tells me to pour some hot water down. This probably keeps it soft as he rolls it up. We've had the same hose for nearly 10 years. Hope this is useful.
Andrea said
12:23 AM Jun 20, 2012
Looks like we'll be storing the hoses in tubes in future: John checked under the van again today and has decided that it's feasible after all. Off to Bunnings tomorrow to check out prices of 70 mm downpipe, etc. - and perhaps that washing machine diverter hose that Jim mentioned as well.
Thanks everyone for the input!
Andrea & John
jimricho said
01:29 PM Jun 20, 2012
The diverter hose option is simple and cheap but it does tend to coil up when rolled out on the ground. I store mine in one of those hose bags which doesn't help. I just use a chock or two to anchor it if it's a problem. There are slight differences in the sizes available so check the one you're buying is suitable for your existing fittings.
I can't recall what mine cost but I think it was only about $10 so you can always buy one and so how you go with it.
Cupie said
03:55 PM Jun 20, 2012
jimricho wrote:
The diverter hose option is simple and cheap but it does tend to coil up when rolled out on the ground.
That's one of the advantages of storing hoses in long straight conduits.
The plastic doesn't develop a 'coil memory'. Mine are always straight.
As with all things there are down sides. My soft pipe can kink if not laid out carefully & without sharp bends.
ps.
Before I store the hose I rinse it out with clean water by just holding one end to the water tap until the water runs out clean.
As I feed it into the carrier pipe, I hold piece of cloth around the outside & in that way I clean the outside too. So that my hands don't get dirty doing this I use the free hand to feed it into the carrier by holding on to the cleaned section.
I do the same with the water hose too, but it is sealed at the ends with click lock joiners etc., fitted with removable rubber caps (like those that you fit to the feet of chairs.) Oh yes, it never coils either.
Andrea said
11:49 PM Jun 20, 2012
Well, as John still has double vision from a recent mini-stroke and would have difficulty installing the tube, we may just make do with the cheaper version for now until we get within reach of Meadowbrook next month - hopefully Southern Cross can help out there and we'll then be able to store the hoses without rolling them. Should have done it a couple of years ago!
Thanks again for the suggestions -
Andrea & John
Peter Rose said
07:48 AM Apr 21, 2017
Andrea wrote:
jimricho wrote:
Don't ever be conned into buying one of those "Flat Out" roll up sullage hoses. I bought one a few years back that was flat when rolled up on the spool but allegedly expands when unwound from the reel. It didn't!
I ended up throwing the hose away and reusing the reel to store my power cord.
I now use an el-cheapo washing machine diverter hose available at Bunnings etc.
That resonates, Jim - we bought one a couple of years ago which was soon discarded, after much cursing and swearing from John!!
Inherited a Flat Out Reel when we bought the van and its a curse as it just backs the shower and sink up. Great to do a search on this forum and find confirmation that my desire to toss the flat out hose in the bin is the correct decision THANKS
We seem to have a lot of problems with sullage hoses splitting. We started with the common ridged ones (25 mm), then replaced them with some dearer ones with smooth inner surface. The latter seem to be even more prone to splitting.
Any suggestions?
Andrea & John
They're not very old; we've only been on the road for 3 1/2 years - a lot less than you two!
Could be that we're storing them too tightly rolled - I guess we need to look at installing a couple of tubes under the van. They just don't seem to flex much without splitting.
Thanks, Neil 'n' Ruth -
Andrea & John
I ended up throwing the hose away and reusing the reel to store my power cord.
I now use an el-cheapo washing machine diverter hose available at Bunnings etc.
After many years of cutting back the ends of sullage hoses to rid them of the damage from barbed connectors I installed screw connectors on the ends. I have 1" BSP directors with barbs like this on one end and a matching nut and tail on the other. These fittings cost a bit more than the simple barbed fittings but they are much easier to use and you are not flexing the ends of the hose when coupling and uncoupling.
I had some difficulty sourcing the fittings. Jayco agents keep the nut and tail but nt the directors. Bummings are the opposite.
Thanks for that info, Peter; we'll look into that alternative. Funny how you just can't get all the relevant bits at one place. We have had trouble in the past getting joiners for the hoses, too.
And you must have found the knack of using those flat hoses, Gold Dandelion - glad it works for you!
Andrea
I have the same soft, smooth inside & outside sullage hoses that I got 13yrs ago.
They are stored in pipes under the van or spare rarely used lengths inside the open chassis rails. Consequently they are never coiled.
Joiners are pieces of conduit that fits firmly inside the pipes.
When at home I use them to distribute washing machine water, so they are mostly out in the sun.
Looks like we'll be storing the hoses in tubes in future: John checked under the van again today and has decided that it's feasible after all. Off to Bunnings tomorrow to check out prices of 70 mm downpipe, etc. - and perhaps that washing machine diverter hose that Jim mentioned as well.
Thanks everyone for the input!
Andrea & John
I can't recall what mine cost but I think it was only about $10 so you can always buy one and so how you go with it.
That's one of the advantages of storing hoses in long straight conduits.
The plastic doesn't develop a 'coil memory'. Mine are always straight.
As with all things there are down sides. My soft pipe can kink if not laid out carefully & without sharp bends.
ps.
Before I store the hose I rinse it out with clean water by just holding one end to the water tap until the water runs out clean.
As I feed it into the carrier pipe, I hold piece of cloth around the outside & in that way I clean the outside too. So that my hands don't get dirty doing this I use the free hand to feed it into the carrier by holding on to the cleaned section.
I do the same with the water hose too, but it is sealed at the ends with click lock joiners etc., fitted with removable rubber caps (like those that you fit to the feet of chairs.) Oh yes, it never coils either.
Well, as John still has double vision from a recent mini-stroke and would have difficulty installing the tube, we may just make do with the cheaper version for now until we get within reach of Meadowbrook next month - hopefully Southern Cross can help out there and we'll then be able to store the hoses without rolling them. Should have done it a couple of years ago!
Thanks again for the suggestions -
Andrea & John
Inherited a Flat Out Reel when we bought the van and its a curse as it just backs the shower and sink up.
Great to do a search on this forum and find confirmation that my desire to toss the flat out hose in the bin is the correct decision THANKS