any thoughts on where we can find one,? 2008 jayco conquest ,
been looking on line but no luck.. none in the book
ozjohn said
01:27 PM Aug 11, 2011
Don't spend anymore time searching the web for a diagram. It's more than likely there never was one. Cheers, Ozjohn.
milo said
02:13 PM Aug 11, 2011
thanks Ozjohn, have had that feeling..
ChiChi1 said
02:47 PM Aug 11, 2011
Maybe you could go back to Jayco and ask them for it.
milo said
05:16 PM Aug 11, 2011
yeah, done that, but the guy seems to have found the problem, i hope.. find out tomorrow.,
Cupie said
07:45 PM Aug 11, 2011
It seems from what you say that Jayco like, I presume, most RV manufacturers still fail to provide a wiring diagram.
That was the case with my 1999 Westport.
So, on a quiet day between caravanning trips, I spent several hours with an wire ID set up & drew a basic one up for myself.
In the process I updated the horrible, unprofessional 12v distribution/junction 'box'.
It was just a jumble of untagged wires protected from the elements by a rough piece of galvanised iron sheet under the van. How it hadn't got filled with water, mud or dust I'll never know.
It's now in an electrical junction box with labels and a wiring diagram.
It amazes me how a leading manufacturer can tolerate such shoddy work.
In previous lives I was a communications Technician, Instructor & Quality Systems Controller etc. and as such would never have permitted such work in our company.
Whatever happened to tradesmen, pride in work and quality control.
Glad that your problem seems to have been fixed.
milo said
03:24 PM Aug 12, 2011
It does make you wonder, thankfully all seems to been fixed and at no cost to us..phew...
Palebushman said
07:00 PM Aug 12, 2011
As Cupie says Milo,
"Whatever happened to tradesmen, pride in work and quality control."
I would add to that, that maybe wireing and plumbing areas in commercial RV's
is not where the fabricators want you to go, and see just how it was all thrown in.
Some of the stuff I have repaired and helped our fellow travellers to resolve in their
RV's, makes me reel back in wonder that fatal injuries didn't occur.
Wombat 280 said
11:13 PM Aug 12, 2011
So you reckon that there are qualified tradesmen working on the installation, that would be nice but most unlikely. Normal practice is to have a coloured mud map of what goes where and then some employee is tasked with putting in inplace . Once inplace the acid test relies on the sub board not smoking and the circuit breaker not jumping out once connected to the power source . The original electrical and plumbing layout design was possibly certified by a qualified tradesmen but that could be some years back .
At a recent Caravan and MH show I opened the cupboard doors on a $165000 unit and found that the 12 volt wiring was visible with a join in the wardrobe using bare spade connectors, presumably running up to the solar panels . For the price of a meter of aussie duct ,a small electrical junction box ,some electrical tape and re-routing into a corner the entire set up would be a lot safer and visual pleasing , the corrective cost wouldn't have been more that $5.00. It's not until you open up some of the storage spaces that your really find the poor workmanship, out of sight out of mind is the catch cry , if that's the best they can do for a major show item then it certainly puts me off looking into their product any further.
Cupie said
08:39 AM Aug 13, 2011
Wombat 280 wrote:
So you reckon that there are qualified tradesmen working on the installation, ............
..... if that's the best they can do for a major show item then it certainly puts me off looking into their product any further.
Exactly.
In a previous life I managed communications instalations groups for more than a decade & involving hundreds of tradesmen.
I found that those tradesmen who took pride in work & used quality methods were invarably more productive & caused far less recalls to fix installation problems than the rip tear & bust merchants who took every opportunity to cut corners.
I'd just have to look in their vehicles to get a snapshot into the work practices of the individuals. A messy truck usually indicated messy work.
It seems to me that most RV manufacturers employ people of the latter persuasion. False economy, lousy supervision and irresponsible management.
any thoughts on where we can find one,? 2008 jayco conquest ,
been looking on line but no luck.. none in the book
Don't spend anymore time searching the web for a diagram.
It's more than likely there never was one.
Cheers, Ozjohn.
It seems from what you say that Jayco like, I presume, most RV manufacturers still fail to provide a wiring diagram.
That was the case with my 1999 Westport.
So, on a quiet day between caravanning trips, I spent several hours with an wire ID set up & drew a basic one up for myself.
In the process I updated the horrible, unprofessional 12v distribution/junction 'box'.
It was just a jumble of untagged wires protected from the elements by a rough piece of galvanised iron sheet under the van. How it hadn't got filled with water, mud or dust I'll never know.
It's now in an electrical junction box with labels and a wiring diagram.
It amazes me how a leading manufacturer can tolerate such shoddy work.
In previous lives I was a communications Technician, Instructor & Quality Systems Controller etc. and as such would never have permitted such work in our company.
Whatever happened to tradesmen, pride in work and quality control.
Glad that your problem seems to have been fixed.
As Cupie says Milo,
"Whatever happened to tradesmen, pride in work and quality control."
I would add to that, that maybe wireing and plumbing areas in commercial RV's
is not where the fabricators want you to go, and see just how it was all thrown in.
Some of the stuff I have repaired and helped our fellow travellers to resolve in their
RV's, makes me reel back in wonder that fatal injuries didn't occur.
At a recent Caravan and MH show I opened the cupboard doors on a $165000 unit and found that the 12 volt wiring was visible with a join in the wardrobe using bare spade connectors, presumably running up to the solar panels . For the price of a meter of aussie duct ,a small electrical junction box ,some electrical tape and re-routing into a corner the entire set up would be a lot safer and visual pleasing , the corrective cost wouldn't have been more that $5.00. It's not until you open up some of the storage spaces that your really find the poor workmanship, out of sight out of mind is the catch cry , if that's the best they can do for a major show item then it certainly puts me off looking into their product any further.
Exactly.
In a previous life I managed communications instalations groups for more than a decade & involving hundreds of tradesmen.
I found that those tradesmen who took pride in work & used quality methods were invarably more productive & caused far less recalls to fix installation problems than the rip tear & bust merchants who took every opportunity to cut corners.
I'd just have to look in their vehicles to get a snapshot into the work practices of the individuals. A messy truck usually indicated messy work.
It seems to me that most RV manufacturers employ people of the latter persuasion. False economy, lousy supervision and irresponsible management.
Have Jayco caravan wiring diag. Might be helpful?