how do you tell people with dogs to stay away from my patch of ground ? we are currently traveling with our 3 year old grand daughter and for some reason she is terrified of dogs. at a caravan park recently my grand daughter was playing out side the van a dog and its owner wander on our patch of ground, well she went right off(my grand daughter) i asked the guy nicely to keep the dog away, well you should have seen the look he gave me. Over the next day or two the dog came over several times (wandering). After several requests to keep the dog away and it didn't happen. I threatened to kill the dog if came over again. That seemed to work I did not see the dog again. No i would not have hurt the dog I own one. But what does it take to get through to some of these people who own dogs they seem to think it is their right to let the dog to do what ever they please. I will get off my soap box now
Al
Bradbury said
01:43 PM Apr 20, 2010
Al i'm on your side.The owner's of dogs have got to learn that not everyone is a dog lover,i'm not real keen on them eg.so i don't go to a beach where it's a exercise strip for them,plus they don't seem to care where they poo even when there are plastic bags provided. Don't get me wrong i'm not saying that all dog owners don't care .It's the old story it's the minority that give the rest a bad name. Syd
glassies said
05:04 PM Apr 20, 2010
hm my mum owns a ****zu maltese ,its the most spoilt rotten dog i have ever seen ,its been a nightmare with arguments , mum lets the dog sleep in the bed with her and partner, its a wooly white polishing cloth, and we all do give her a bit of a lashing that she looks after it better than she looked after us kids, :( but its been some terrible troubles over the years and currently has us not even on a speaking level, due to that fact that she cant visit me with her dog, because shes never taught the dog to sleep on a dog bed or elsewhere than a bed and i have put my foot down and told her if she visits with the dog it does not sleep in any of my beds.
therefore she no longer visits ,and now she no longer speaks to me been almost a year now in june crazy i know but that is how much her dog means to her and thats all very well but i have tried to make her understand what she does in her own home i dont care but in my home or others she cannot expect them to allow a dog to sleep in there beds .
im all with you on the dog thing we love dogs ive had one hubby had a dog, but we have none now and dont intend to get one either due to the fact we are not here everyday and we wish to travel and not have any animal hassles to deal with .
milo said
07:55 PM Apr 20, 2010
Hi guys,
i know what you mean with bad dog owners at caravan parks.
i take by 12 year old border collie dog with us, and he is always on a lead
but i could be sitting out side with ben on his lead, he can go a sertain distance before it stops him.
we always cleen up after him too, and we've had other dogs come over several times causing problems, which is not fair
Wombat 280 said
06:52 PM Apr 21, 2010
There are options, one is don't go to dog friendly parks problem solved .
It could be in your granddaughter best interest to seek help to overcome her fear of dogs as she will obviously come into contact with dogs throughout here life and without professional help it will only get worse .
In my experience those children who are afraid of dogs ,regardless of dog size or what the dog is doing , are the product of parents instilling their own fear of canines into the child that all dogs will bite.
There are greater risks out there in the park in addition to dogs a cat scratching or a native parrot or plover attacking a little finger is always on the cards. Cats carry more zoonotic diseases than dogs and the cat doesn't even have to be sighted to pass them on. Watch those sand pits or any soft ground
al said
07:54 PM Apr 21, 2010
you are obviously a dog lover ? as it is she is getting help with her problem. but also obvious you one of these people who think dogs and the people who own them can do what they like. al
-- Edited by Webmaster on Thursday 22nd of April 2010 03:09:16 PM
milo said
10:20 PM Apr 21, 2010
i hope what i do with my dog is ok, i try and do the right thing with him..
ballast2 said
12:27 AM Apr 22, 2010
G'day. We were at a caravan park not far from Darwin over the Easter long weekend with our dogs. both small and on leads in our site when a small unrestrained child wandered in to our area and wanted to pet our dogs. they are both small and when they started barking and wagging their tails excitably the child got a fright. her parents came over and after talking to us there was no problems and we introduced the little one to our dogs and they got along fine after. i agree with wombat. until your little one gets over her fear of dogs stay away from pet friendly van parks. unfortunately you may also have to stay away from airports(drug and customs dogs,your whole neighbourhood and every where else dogs may be.god only knows what would happen if she came into the vicinity of a guide or hearing dog.) I am truly sorry for your little ones fear and hope she overcomes it. do you have any friends at all who have dogs that she can meet and hopefully enjoy. Cheers Jack
-- Edited by Webmaster on Thursday 22nd of April 2010 03:10:03 PM
Flyboy said
04:09 PM Apr 22, 2010
My wife and i have a small Maltese Shizu,2 kg in fact. She is very timid and even jumps when the metal buckle of her collar accidently hits her water bowl when drinking
However when in caravan parks we never let her off her lead and always carry a plastic bag in our pockets just in case.
It is a pity some dog owners spoil it for the majority.
However,in saying that (not pointing the finger Al) there are some parents that feel it is everyone elses responsibility to look after their children while they kick up their heels and ignore how their kids are ruining everyone elses holiday.
A caravan park we visited earlier in the year had kids running around screaming and doing whatever they liked while their parents drank and chatted at the top of their voices till the early hours.It was only when the parents decided to go to bed that they dragged their kids in off the roadway. The park was actually the best one we have stayed at,clean and beautifully laid out with great facilities, but it was some of the customers that ruined it for the average camper. So now we have decided that when we hit the road for our around Aus trip (starting in Tassie) later this year we will be free camping whenever possible during the school holidays and staying in caravan parks when the holidays are over.
milo said
06:58 PM Apr 22, 2010
we had a similar thing last year fly boy, while on our SA trip,
great park, kids running amuk, which i know kids will be kids butup till and after 1am?
makes it hare=d when youhave a long days travelling ahead
Delta18 said
07:29 PM Apr 22, 2010
milo wrote:
we had a similar thing last year fly boy, while on our SA trip, great park, kids running amuk, which i know kids will be kids butup till and after 1am? makes it hare=d when youhave a long days travelling ahead
Bit OT but a similar thing happened to us a few years back.
We picked a long weekend to go away (further south from where we live) and the caravan park was packed. Two families (they were from Perth) moved in next to us and proceeded to set up camp (tents) within a couple of feet of our awning.
Once set up the kids then ran amok and the adults sat back and the beer came out. They continued 'partying' until midnight and then it sort of quietened down until about 1am when more friends of the family arrived and then for another hour they proceeded to sort themselves out setting up camp. Made sure everyone else in the park heard them as well.
They were all up early the next morning and the noise started up again and since we had hardly any sleep, like a few others in this family's vicinity, I went to the office. Whilst speaking to the park manager a man and his son walked into the office and stood next to me listening.
The outcome .. we were moved to another site further away. The man and his son that came into the office turned out to be from one of the families. He knew who I was and he never spoke a word whilst I was complaining about them. We'd hardly vacated the old site for the new one when the family that turned up at 1am moved onto it (makes you wonder, doesn't it!).
We learnt our lesson and now stay home on long weekends.
-- Edited by Delta18 on Thursday 22nd of April 2010 08:08:06 PM
Helena said
12:08 PM Apr 25, 2010
We also avoid caravan parks during holiday times we always free camp during those times love children but can't understand the parents that let them run amok until all ours of the night. Helena.
goinsoon said
06:21 PM Apr 25, 2010
Oh!!! It is always the kids fault thats the usual cry of irresponsible pet owners - HELLO - caravan parks are essentially a holiday place for humans with some parks gracious enough to allow CONTROLLED pets.
It is no one elses business wether a child has a fear of dogs but rather the owners resaponsibility to control their pets.
OH and while I am at it to pick up their crap
-- Edited by goinsoon on Sunday 25th of April 2010 06:23:58 PM
Cruising Granny said
09:59 PM Apr 25, 2010
No matter where we travel there will always be something that gets up our noses. Heaven forbid it be that doggy doo.
In the case of the terrified child, a responsbile dog handler would have recognised the fear and withdrawn the dog, to relieve the child's trauma.
It's not the dog man's fault the child is scared, but consideration should have been the guide to removing the dog. I'm sure her reaction would have left no doubt in his mind.
The feral kid thing happens in those parks predominantly where there are big playgrounds and jumping air pillows.
I haven't come across too much interference in my travels, but avoid the really popular school holiday destinations and camp sites.
Some park "regulars" believe they have a God-given rite to do what they like in their favourite park, on their favourite annual sites.
It seems you may have been parked on "their God-given site".
It's not always a free world in a caravan park, but some campers push the boundaries of everyone else's tolerance to ensure they have it all to themselves.
Surely there are rules about being quiet after 9 or 10pm. Most parks have them.
Maybe the park operators need to be more aware.
Safe and happy travels and camping folks.
jimricho said
09:12 AM Apr 26, 2010
I recently stayed at a park in Echuca on a (Victorian) long weekend. The park had more than its fair share of noisy p1ssheads that carried on nearly all night. I'd prefer a pet friendly park to these hoons anytime. I won't be staying at that park again.
Seaman Staines said
05:21 PM Apr 26, 2010
al wrote:
I threatened to kill the dog if came over again. That seemed to work I did not see the dog again. No i would not have hurt the dog I own one. But what does it take to get through to some of these people who own dogs they seem to think it is their right to let the dog to do what ever they please. I will get off my soap box now
Al
Naughty Boy Al, you can get into big strife threatening the life of a DOG.... I have a similar problem with people who let their kids wander all around my site, play around the amenities block, run around other people sites tripping over guy ropes generally causing havoc.... And when you ask nicely would they keep their kids under control they always blame someone else, never ever admit that they should take responsibility for their kids.... So what do you do in this case? best thing is to ask politley if the kids or dog can be bought under control if you get no response then complain to the park management.
Seaman Staines said
05:28 PM Apr 26, 2010
goinsoon wrote:
Oh!!! It is always the kids fault thats the usual cry of irresponsible pet owners - HELLO - caravan parks are essentially a holiday place for humans with some parks gracious enough to allow CONTROLLED pets.
It is no one elses business wether a child has a fear of dogs but rather the owners resaponsibility to control their pets.
OH and while I am at it to pick up their crap
-- Edited by goinsoon on Sunday 25th of April 2010 06:23:58 PM
Oh yeah Goinsoon so it's simple really, don't stay at pet friendly parks. I'm sorry but I have yet to see a dog vandalising anything, breaking BBQ's, snapping off taps, breaking windows etc etc but hey out of control kids do it all the time and that is the PARENTS fault for not keeping their kids under control. Dogs react if provoked, kids poking dogs with sticks etc is the real issue here, not a dog who craps and it's owner does not clean it up for 5 mins....
ballast2 said
12:29 AM Apr 28, 2010
-- Edited by ballast2 on Wednesday 28th of April 2010 09:32:40 PM
Firefly said
04:35 PM Apr 28, 2010
If you look a little bit closer, you will see that the abb site is on his whiteboard, put there by a member calling themselves xinaswell.
Always pays to double check before jumping to conclusions son.
gitsho said
04:27 PM Apr 30, 2010
maybe the owner of the dog had similar problems with straying children.
Cruising Granny said
08:46 PM Apr 30, 2010
Xina is a former GN who travels with a dog in a camper van. She paid my a visit some time ago for a cuppa. It's all good.
I don't know why she left GN.
Firefly said
08:57 AM May 1, 2010
Hi Chris,
Xinaaswell was not Xina mate, two different members.
we are currently traveling with our 3 year old grand daughter and for some reason she is terrified of dogs. at a caravan park recently my grand daughter was playing out side the van a dog and its owner wander on our patch of ground, well she went right off(my grand daughter) i asked the guy nicely to keep the dog away, well you should have seen the look he gave me. Over the next day or two the dog came over several times (wandering).
After several requests to keep the dog away and it didn't happen. I threatened to kill the dog if came over again. That seemed to work I did not see the dog again.
No i would not have hurt the dog I own one. But what does it take to get through to some of these people who own dogs they seem to think it is their right to let the dog to do what ever they please.
I will get off my soap box now
Al
Al i'm on your side.The owner's of dogs have got to learn that not everyone is a dog lover,i'm not real keen on them eg.so i don't go to a beach where it's a exercise strip for them,plus they don't seem to care where they poo even when there are plastic bags provided.
Don't get me wrong i'm not saying that all dog owners don't care .It's the old story it's the minority that give the rest a bad name.
Syd
but also obvious you one of these people who think dogs and the people who own them
can do what they like.
al
-- Edited by Webmaster on Thursday 22nd of April 2010 03:09:16 PM
Cheers Jack
-- Edited by Webmaster on Thursday 22nd of April 2010 03:10:03 PM
The outcome .. we were moved to another site further away. The man and his son that came into the office turned out to be from one of the families. He knew who I was and he never spoke a word whilst I was complaining about them. We'd hardly vacated the old site for the new one when the family that turned up at 1am moved onto it (makes you wonder, doesn't it!).
-- Edited by Delta18 on Thursday 22nd of April 2010 08:08:06 PM
It is always the kids fault thats the usual cry of irresponsible pet owners - HELLO - caravan parks are essentially a holiday place for humans with some parks gracious enough to allow CONTROLLED pets.
It is no one elses business wether a child has a fear of dogs but rather the owners resaponsibility to control their pets.
OH and while I am at it to pick up their crap
-- Edited by goinsoon on Sunday 25th of April 2010 06:23:58 PM
So what do you do in this case? best thing is to ask politley if the kids or dog can be bought under control if you get no response then complain to the park management.
-- Edited by ballast2 on Wednesday 28th of April 2010 09:32:40 PM
Always pays to double check before jumping to conclusions son.
Xinaaswell was not Xina mate, two different members.