my wife elly and i are going to be joining all u lucky folk in about 2 years , sounds a long way off i think it will come around all to fast. our delemar is that we want t buy a duel cab the only ones that are available are the mits triton and the nissan navara both 2.6 litre. i have spaoken to both company's and they are both confident they will to the job. elly and i would like to find out from any one out there who may have had the experiance good / bad with either of these vehicals. {i would prefer the navara} any input would be appreciated greatly regards littlejohn
milo said
07:39 PM Jan 24, 2010
G'day and welcome to the site, I recently had a look at the Triton , but I also do like the mazda BT50 duel cab, I've had a mazda 2 now for 6 years with out a problem , so have a good look around,its daunting but worth it when you find the right one..
Mick themungrel said
07:46 PM Jan 24, 2010
Had a look at a triton the other day and I didnt like the long gap between the back axle and the towball ,it looks like there would be a lot of leverage from a van on the back end .
seonau said
07:56 PM Jan 24, 2010
Hi...i know less than Sargent Shultz on most topics here, thats why i am here, but there is one suggestion i have observed and pass on to you that most certainly i will be following.Rule number 478..... when my time finally comes around first i will buy / order and receive my van before i make a final decision on a tow vehicle.
Delta18 said
08:17 PM Jan 24, 2010
Mick themungrel wrote:
Had a look at a triton the other day and I didnt like the long gap between the back axle and the towball ,it looks like there would be a lot of leverage from a van on the back end .
The Triton is an excellent tug, I have one albeit it is a 2007 model which is a 3.2 DiD diesel. I couldn't be happier with it for power and fuel consumption.
Now, the latest model has gone to a 2.5L DiD but the power and torque are increased so SHOULD tow even better.
However, as Mick has alluded to, this year they have made the tub 150mm longer and 100mm higher, great - more storage room, BUT, it is on the same chassis as previous models so the overhang is greater. This may be a problem with towing, but is IS a problem for offroading as the departure angle is decreased leading to rear steps being damaged. Probably would't do too much damage with a good towbar fitted though.
I would suggest you visit www.newtriton.net.au as the guys there are very helpful to prospective buyers of Tritons New or Used.
Cheers Neil
-- Edited by Delta18 on Sunday 24th of January 2010 07:18:51 PM
bill12 said
09:22 PM Jan 24, 2010
Mick, you look different.Maybe the other pic scared evrybody. send th attack dog out to rend all us unbelievers. don,t worry, its just a joke. Bill
Ma said
09:25 PM Jan 24, 2010
Have you considered the Ford Ranger. All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.
We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier. Tows like a dream and plenty of power.
We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.
It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.
bill12 said
09:29 PM Jan 24, 2010
When towing, weight makes a difference. how much do you want to tow?I know these new 4wds are supposed to tow 3 tons plus , but I would rather have an old landcruiser or f250 towind a big load than these new cars. don,t get me wrong, its nice to have the power , but weight of the tow vehicle does make a difference.Bill
justcruisin01 said
09:53 PM Jan 24, 2010
bill12 wrote:
When towing, weight makes a difference. how much do you want to tow?I know these new 4wds are supposed to tow 3 tons plus , but I would rather have an old landcruiser or f250 towind a big load than these new cars. don,t get me wrong, its nice to have the power , but weight of the tow vehicle does make a difference.Bill
Very true , Navara will bend the chassis upwards in the area between the cab & the tub if over loaded with a large van or boat , a speed hump will set this in motion.
Mick themungrel said
11:38 PM Jan 24, 2010
Ma wrote:
Have you considered the Ford Ranger. All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.
We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier. Tows like a dream and plenty of power.
We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.
It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.
Mate has a Ford Ranger and towed a car trailer with his Mainline Ute out to Mildura and back without a problem , back to 3rd gear up combo hill about 80 kph . hes really happy with it . Mainline is about 2000kg .
milo said
12:32 AM Jan 25, 2010
any one got experiance with mazda's bt50?
Ma said
12:58 AM Jan 25, 2010
am told that the Ford Ranger, which we have, is the same as the Mazda Bt50, but with a different badge.
We are extremely happy with our Ranger.
littlejohn46_2000 said
07:52 AM Jan 25, 2010
milo wrote:
G'day and welcome to the site, I recently had a look at the Triton , but I also do like the mazda BT50 duel cab, I've had a mazda 2 now for 6 years with out a problem , so have a good look around,its daunting but worth it when you find the right one..
thnx milo for the input i hadn't even given mazda a thought ... i will from nopw on tho regards
littlejohn46_2000 said
07:57 AM Jan 25, 2010
seonau wrote:
Hi...i know less than Sargent Shultz on most topics here, thats why i am here, but there is one suggestion i have observed and pass on to you that most certainly i will be following.Rule number 478..... when my time finally comes around first i will buy / order and receive my van before i make a final decision on a tow vehicle.
i have spoken to a few van mauufactures and most say with alum frame and all the mod cons carrying 400-475 kilos i can get under 2500kls so rule 478 will be stricley adhered to ...
littlejohn46_2000 said
08:01 AM Jan 25, 2010
Delta18 wrote:
Mick themungrel wrote:
Had a look at a triton the other day and I didnt like the long gap between the back axle and the towball ,it looks like there would be a lot of leverage from a van on the back end .
and i thought this was going to be an easy process no my rear end has to much iver hang only be 6 1nches tho.... good on ya mick ..lol
The Triton is an excellent tug, I have one albeit it is a 2007 model which is a 3.2 DiD diesel. I couldn't be happier with it for power and fuel consumption.
Now, the latest model has gone to a 2.5L DiD but the power and torque are increased so SHOULD tow even better.
However, as Mick has alluded to, this year they have made the tub 150mm longer and 100mm higher, great - more storage room, BUT, it is on the same chassis as previous models so the overhang is greater. This may be a problem with towing, but is IS a problem for offroading as the departure angle is decreased leading to rear steps being damaged. Probably would't do too much damage with a good towbar fitted though.
I would suggest you visit www.newtriton.net.au as the guys there are very helpful to prospective buyers of Tritons New or Used.
Cheers Neil
-- Edited by Delta18 on Sunday 24th of January 2010 07:18:51 PM
littlejohn46_2000 said
08:11 AM Jan 25, 2010
Mick themungrel wrote:
Ma wrote:
Have you considered the Ford Ranger. All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.
We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier. Tows like a dream and plenty of power.
We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.
It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.
Mate has a Ford Ranger and towed a car trailer with his Mainline Ute out to Mildura and back without a problem , back to 3rd gear up combo hill about 80 kph . hes really happy with it . Mainline is about 2000kg .
i have given a thought to the ranger and also the hilux they only have 2500 kilos tow capacity and with an 18-20 footer it will be right on the limit no room for error . i was hoping to have al least 500 kilos up my sleeve thnx ma how heavy does your van go as we will alson be looking at roughly the same size
Ma said
08:33 AM Jan 25, 2010
littlejohn46_2000 wrote:
Mick themungrel wrote:
Ma wrote:
Have you considered the Ford Ranger. All sorts and sizes of dual cabs available.
We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier. Tows like a dream and plenty of power.
We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.
It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.
Mate has a Ford Ranger and towed a car trailer with his Mainline Ute out to Mildura and back without a problem , back to 3rd gear up combo hill about 80 kph . hes really happy with it . Mainline is about 2000kg .
i have given a thought to the ranger and also the hilux they only have 2500 kilos tow capacity and with an 18-20 footer it will be right on the limit no room for error . i was hoping to have al least 500 kilos up my sleeve thnx ma how heavy does your van go as we will alson be looking at roughly the same size
The Ranger if its automatic transmission is limited to 2500kg towing capacity and 250kg ball weight.
Ours is manual transmission and has 3000kg towing capacity and 300kg ball weight. The standard optional tow bar fitted by Ford (as recommended by the salesman to us) is the 2500kg. We opted for the Hayman Reece tow bar and it cost one third of the price that Ford quoted us for "their" tow bar
Our van, which is a 18.5ft Jayco Discovery, comes in under 2 ton and our tow ball weight, when loaded is 190kg.
The Ranger pulls our van without any trouble, in fact you hardly even notice that it is behind you.
dave06 said
10:07 AM Jan 25, 2010
decide on van first then do your homework as to what will tow how much!
as the old saying goes "never put the cart before the horse"
The Gnome said
11:11 AM Jan 25, 2010
Ma wrote:
am told that the Ford Ranger, which we have, is the same as the Mazda Bt50, but with a different badge.
We are extremely happy with our Ranger.
Dead right Ma Ford Ranger for me too.6500 kms pulling 1600kg full van from A.C.T. to Gympie and back, all places in between, averaged 12.8 lt/100kms
Mick themungrel said
04:42 PM Jan 25, 2010
bill12 wrote:
When towing, weight makes a difference. how much do you want to tow?I know these new 4wds are supposed to tow 3 tons plus , but I would rather have an old landcruiser or f250 towind a big load than these new cars. don,t get me wrong, its nice to have the power , but weight of the tow vehicle does make a difference.Bill
Bill I agree with you on this , I have heard of 32' 5ers hooked behind jap 4wd's . Unless they have air brakes fitted they would be plated at 4490kg . Looking at triton specs GCM 5400kg GVM 2930kg Kerb Weight (Tare)1992kg Max towing 2700kg Max pay load 953kg Max tow ball 270kg
Toyota Hi Lux
Weights
STD
- Kerb weight (kg)
1780
- Gross vehicle weight rating (kg)
2810
- Gross trailer weight braked (kg)
2250
Toyota dont give a GCM
Both of these are a light weight 4wd . I have seen a Hi Lux towing a 28' tri axle van which has a max weight of 3600kg with a tare of round 2800kg . I would hate to be around if they lost it , the weight of the van would just take over .
I recently had a look at the Triton , but I also do like the mazda BT50 duel cab, I've had a mazda 2 now for 6 years with out a problem , so have a good look around,its daunting but worth it when you find the right one..
The Triton is an excellent tug, I have one albeit it is a 2007 model which is a 3.2 DiD diesel. I couldn't be happier with it for power and fuel consumption.
Now, the latest model has gone to a 2.5L DiD but the power and torque are increased so SHOULD tow even better.
However, as Mick has alluded to, this year they have made the tub 150mm longer and 100mm higher, great - more storage room, BUT, it is on the same chassis as previous models so the overhang is greater. This may be a problem with towing, but is IS a problem for offroading as the departure angle is decreased leading to rear steps being damaged. Probably would't do too much damage with a good towbar fitted though.
I would suggest you visit www.newtriton.net.au as the guys there are very helpful to prospective buyers of Tritons New or Used.
Cheers Neil
-- Edited by Delta18 on Sunday 24th of January 2010 07:18:51 PM
We've had our Ranger for just on 12 months now and couldn't be happier. Tows like a dream and plenty of power.
We just did a 7004 kilometer trip and the average consumption, towing an 18.5 foot van was 14.2 litres per 100ks.
It's 3lts. Turbo Diesel.
We are extremely happy with our Ranger.
i have given a thought to the ranger and also the hilux they only have 2500 kilos tow capacity and with an 18-20 footer it will be right on the limit no room for error . i was hoping to have al least 500 kilos up my sleeve thnx ma how heavy does your van go as we will alson be looking at roughly the same size
Ours is manual transmission and has 3000kg towing capacity and 300kg ball weight. The standard optional tow bar fitted by Ford (as recommended by the salesman to us) is the 2500kg. We opted for the Hayman Reece tow bar and it cost one third of the price that Ford quoted us for "their" tow bar
Our van, which is a 18.5ft Jayco Discovery, comes in under 2 ton and our tow ball weight, when loaded is 190kg.
The Ranger pulls our van without any trouble, in fact you hardly even notice that it is behind you.
GCM 5400kg
GVM 2930kg
Kerb Weight (Tare)1992kg
Max towing 2700kg
Max pay load 953kg
Max tow ball 270kg
Toyota Hi Lux
Toyota dont give a GCM
Both of these are a light weight 4wd . I have seen a Hi Lux towing a 28' tri axle van which has a max weight of 3600kg with a tare of round 2800kg . I would hate to be around if they lost it , the weight of the van would just take over .